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Oct 12 2013, 19:26
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zanky
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it's to late. I'll sleep first. i still need to go tomorrow.
and prepare traveling to other place. for worse, you'll not see me in 2 month
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Oct 12 2013, 19:34
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buktore
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* Keep in mind that I'm talking only when playing at PFUDORQUOTE(zanky @ Oct 13 2013, 00:06)  now I asking you back. How you can finish quicker with mace without PA?
By not having your attack parried half of the time? QUOTE(zanky @ Oct 13 2013, 00:06)  if just depend on rendering blow, it's not enough because is just 5 turn.
Enough for me... Well obviously it's not enough for bosses and the like, but only in marathon where that become and issues— no one in their right mind would use mace for that anyway... QUOTE(zanky @ Oct 13 2013, 00:06)  and great estoc can give 25% change to 7PA turn. so our damage will up to 175%(PA stack 3 times-max)
Same as Rending blow. Also, -75% monster's mit doesn't equaled to +75% dmg dealt. This post has been edited by buktore: Oct 12 2013, 19:35
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Oct 12 2013, 19:34
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erwtsnert
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QUOTE(zanky @ Oct 12 2013, 19:16)  wait, so niten is more better choise (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) damn. I'm glad increase both DW and 2H. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) It's debatable, Niten still has the nerfed domino strike, while longsword doesn't have stun or PA for harder monsters/Schoolgirls. Though for the marathons many people choose DW anyway.
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Oct 12 2013, 19:35
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zen_zen
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Oct 12 2013, 08:44)  Hi guys... How much do you think this worth (if worth anything)? Superior Ethereal Rapier of BalanceI think this is worth quite a bit. This would be for a DW offhand use and the numbers are quite good for a Superior. If I saw this in WTS for 30k, I'd jump at it, 60k+ I'd have to think about it. How many rounds to complete an IW run?
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Oct 12 2013, 19:46
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zanky
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QUOTE(buktore @ Oct 13 2013, 00:34)  * Keep in mind that I'm talking only when playing at PFUDOR By not having your attack parried half of the time? Enough for me...
Well obviously it's not enough for bosses and the like, but only in marathon where that become and issues— no one in their right mind would use mace for that anyway... Same as Rending blow.
Also, -75% monster's mit doesn't equaled to +75% dmg dealt.
those not happen in my case (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) in PFUDOR: i'm try use estoc and the result is i need cast a lot cure to cover my lost HP (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) so i need more pot compare when i used mace so mace is better choise for me now because i can get some free action from stuned monster. and i can save more pot actually all you said is make sense now. i never considering parry change in my calculation (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) thanks for your explanation (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Oct 13 2013, 00:34)  It's debatable, Niten still has the nerfed domino strike, while longsword doesn't have stun or PA for harder monsters/Schoolgirls. Though for the marathons many people choose DW anyway.
. . . . i never go to marathon now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I got really low damage right now This post has been edited by zanky: Oct 12 2013, 19:49
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Oct 12 2013, 20:20
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e-Stark
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Oct 12 2013, 14:35)  I think this is worth quite a bit. This would be for a DW offhand use and the numbers are quite good for a Superior. If I saw this in WTS for 30k, I'd jump at it, 60k+ I'd have to think about it. How many rounds to complete an IW run?
147 rounds... Well... I've seen some Exq's in WTS that was not so much better than this (some even worse) with overpriced value... anyway if you would pay 60k it's yours... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Oct 12 2013, 20:36
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clarkiest
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Oct 12 2013, 19:35)  I think this is worth quite a bit. This would be for a DW offhand use and the numbers are quite good for a Superior. If I saw this in WTS for 30k, I'd jump at it, 60k+ I'd have to think about it. How many rounds to complete an IW run?
Interesting appraisal. I disagree, but both of you have already spoke.
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Oct 12 2013, 20:41
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zen_zen
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Oct 12 2013, 11:20)  147 rounds... Well... I've seen some Exq's in WTS that was not so much better than this (some even worse) with overpriced value... anyway if you would pay 60k it's yours... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Sent you a pm.
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Oct 13 2013, 01:21
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habbababba31
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QUOTE(buktore @ Oct 12 2013, 23:48)  Woah! I have no idea that mace is actually quite expensive these days... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Well... I say screw that! — 400k and this one is yours! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) No thanks, I'm still satisfied with this one, even if it's from before the dexterity boost in this patch. Also, I've been wondering - in the auctions, you sometimes see the auctioneer selling items owned by other players. What's the usual arrangement in those cases? I'm assuming the auctioneer takes a percentage... But what happens if nobody bids on the item?
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Oct 13 2013, 01:47
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erwtsnert
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Oct 13 2013, 01:41)  I got this http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=714cfbcb6dI'm probably gonna IW it myself to MAX then sell it. IW'd ethereal ones will net you less "profit" than IW'd elemental/vanilla ones though. Hollowforged does one hell of a crapload more than say elec strike.
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Oct 13 2013, 05:59
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clarkiest
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QUOTE(buktore @ Oct 12 2013, 23:48)  Woah! I have no idea that mace is actually quite expensive these days... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Well... I say screw that! — 400k and this one is yours! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Even when I'm not credit broke, I can only pay 200k for this. And I'm broke now, if I'm not clear enough. I'm not implying the mace only worth 200k. -- Question time2500 base void damage or 3000 base crush damage?
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Oct 13 2013, 06:51
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buktore
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 13 2013, 10:59)  Even when I'm not credit broke, I can only pay 200k for this. And I'm broke now, if I'm not clear enough. I'm not implying the mace only worth 200k.
If you send creds to me quickly enough, it's yours. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Be quick though; this is 'I'm in a good mood' price. QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 13 2013, 10:27)  sell your legendary ethereal mace of slaughter , buktore (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) There're plenty of better mace out there that's better than mine, gathering dust... This post has been edited by buktore: Oct 13 2013, 06:54
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Oct 13 2013, 06:53
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zen_zen
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Oct 12 2013, 16:47)  IW'd ethereal ones will net you less "profit" than IW'd elemental/vanilla ones though. Hollowforged does one hell of a crapload more than say elec strike.
An Ethereal nets less profit then Elemental or Vanilla IW'd, how did you arrive at this conclusion?
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Oct 13 2013, 06:55
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Cats Lover
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 13 2013, 03:59)  Even when I'm not credit broke, I can only pay 200k for this. And I'm broke now, if I'm not clear enough. I'm not implying the mace only worth 200k.
-- Question time 2500 base void damage or 3000 base crush damage?
void damage is much better, not only for the damage type, but also for its additional void strike.
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Oct 13 2013, 06:57
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zen_zen
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QUOTE(buktore @ Oct 12 2013, 21:51)  If you send creds to me quickly enough, it's yours. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Be quick though; this is 'I'm in a good mood' price. There're plenty of better mace out there that's better than mine, gathering dust... I am not in the market for a mace but would you happen to have an Exquisite or higher Hallowed Rapier of Balance with 4 melee pab, that you are willing to part with for a 'good mood' price?
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