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Oct 12 2013, 18:11
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Saika_
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Tried again a Grindfest on PFUDOR.Cleared 26 rounds then got surprised on the 27th and died but only had one pot left out of 15 anyway. Not using scrolls obviously.I'm weak but the difference is huge with zanky who don't have much more hp/regen so it's strange he can go that far.I'm hitting the cure button every time I hit 5k, and it happens all the time... And the great cleave-rending blow combo seems way more efficient than spirit mode.Maybe I need an Ethereal Estoc instead of that "lol" Longsword after all, but good luck finding a good one with no credits.
This post has been edited by Klauser57: Oct 12 2013, 18:16
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Oct 12 2013, 18:15
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zanky
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QUOTE(Klauser57 @ Oct 12 2013, 23:11)  Tried again a Grindfest on PFUDOR.Cleared 26 rounds then got surprised on the 27th and died but only had one pot left out of 15 anyway. Not using scrolls obviously.I'm weak but the difference is huge with zanky who don't have much more hp/regen so it's strange he can go that far.I'm hitting the cure button every time I hit 5k, and it happens all the time...
hei your ability lower compare what I have. like heartseaker, SoL, Regen, etc my prof for 2H now 281 of course you got trouble and I already said QUOTE(zanky @ Oct 12 2013, 20:40)  using mace and light: more safe, need less to cast cure, less damage
use estoc and light: more dangerous. monster can kill me if i'm not put attention. deal high damage. need cast lot cure.
QUOTE(zanky @ Oct 12 2013, 20:19)  PFUDOR really hard compare to that (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) i don't think i can do that now. I already try use estoc in IWTB when IW my mace, but all my mana pot gone in wave 100. with mace, i can survive better in PFUDOR. the first time I clear IWTB T&T in ~245. try that first before chalange PFUDOR https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...p;#entry2795003This post has been edited by zanky: Oct 12 2013, 18:37
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Oct 12 2013, 18:18
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Colman
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QUOTE(Klauser57 @ Oct 13 2013, 00:11)  Tried again a Grindfest on PFUDOR.Cleared 26 rounds then got surprised on the 27th and died but only had one pot left out of 15 anyway. Not using scrolls obviously.I'm weak but the difference is huge with zanky who don't have much more hp/regen so it's strange he can go that far.I'm hitting the cure button every time I hit 5k, and it happens all the time... And the great cleave-rending blow combo seems way more efficient than spirit mode.Maybe I need an Ethereal Estoc instead of that "lol" Longsword after all, but good luck finding a good one with no credits.
heavy/light?
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Oct 12 2013, 18:18
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Saika_
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By light do you mean light clothing?I can't afford a good set now anyway.
I will try a PFUDOR on Ninten then on DW to see what happens.
This post has been edited by Klauser57: Oct 12 2013, 18:19
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Oct 12 2013, 18:20
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revsex
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Oct 12 2013, 23:02)  Unfortunately just about everything on that thing is not great, but it's ethereal (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) 10k, not a lot more than that. Somone may see that level 4 and flip their stuff, but I wouldn't count on it. 1/6 holy strike, 1/6 dark strike. I'd actually suggest to just keep it on 9 for ethereal weapons so you can infusion with the elements you need. QUOTE(zanky @ Oct 12 2013, 23:02)  I see thanks (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hey Zanky maybe you should change your estoc to see a different result (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Oct 12 2013, 18:21
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Colman
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QUOTE(Klauser57 @ Oct 13 2013, 00:18)  By light do you mean light clothing?I can't afford a good set now anyway.
I will try a PFUDOR on Ninten then on DW to see what happens.
I am current using full leather of protection. It is cheap and the performance in PFUDOR is much better (but slower) than plate/power. May be you can try. This post has been edited by Colman: Oct 12 2013, 18:22
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Oct 12 2013, 18:23
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Saika_
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Oct 12 2013, 18:24
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zanky
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QUOTE(revsex @ Oct 12 2013, 23:20)  Hey Zanky maybe you should change your estoc to see a different result (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) what estoc? @Klauser57 then you unlucky (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) because mace better if combine with light. if you use heavy, try look for estoc This post has been edited by zanky: Oct 12 2013, 18:28
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Oct 12 2013, 18:26
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Colman
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QUOTE(Klauser57 @ Oct 13 2013, 00:23)  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Using full set of power armor is very good for speed run. However, it is a bad choice for low level player to play on the highest difficult. Try full plate or full leather when you feel like it.
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Oct 12 2013, 18:26
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revsex
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Oct 12 2013, 18:30
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zanky
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QUOTE(revsex @ Oct 12 2013, 23:26)  those what i use for my estoc set I'm lucky i can get those estoc (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I think before I get those, the best estoc I have is hallowed. This post has been edited by zanky: Oct 12 2013, 18:41
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Oct 12 2013, 18:43
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Saika_
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25 Rounds with Ninten but it's to be expected with 0 DW proc and sucky weapons (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This post has been edited by Klauser57: Oct 12 2013, 18:44
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Oct 12 2013, 18:46
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buktore
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QUOTE(zanky @ Oct 12 2013, 23:24)  because mace better if combine with light.
I'm using Heavy, and when playing on PFUDOR, with a mace. Seem to work fine for me— faster than estoc, in fact... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Oct 12 2013, 18:49
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zanky
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QUOTE(buktore @ Oct 12 2013, 23:46)  I'm using Heavy, and when playing on PFUDOR, with a mace. Seem to work fine for me— faster than estoc, in fact... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) it not posible i think (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) what your trick? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) if you said go all out with 2H skill when use mace and if using estoc, you just hit and slash(depend on spirit stance) then it's posible btw, light armor provide high evade. so stun + evade + parry = better survive ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- maybe I should try heavy too (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) errrrrrrrr (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) i'll leave it for now. because i already got trouble with mana although i already use light. my proble lie on low damage (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) This post has been edited by zanky: Oct 12 2013, 18:59
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Oct 12 2013, 19:04
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buktore
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QUOTE(zanky @ Oct 12 2013, 23:49)  if you said go all out with 2H skill when use mace and if using estoc, you just hit and slash(depend on spirit stance) then it's posible
Are you implying that an estoc is faster than mace when using skill?
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Oct 12 2013, 19:06
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zanky
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QUOTE(buktore @ Oct 13 2013, 00:04)  Are you implying that an estoc is faster than mace when using skill?
not really because i never try. what I think is: Estoc can add PA to monster. so with penetrated armor, damage from estoc will be better compare to mace now I asking you back. How you can finish quicker with mace without PA? if just depend on rendering blow, it's not enough because is just 5 turn PA(3 stack). and great estoc can give 25% change => 7PA turn. so our damage will up to 175%(PA stack 3 times-max) so with 25% change to stick 7 turn PA, monster can't escape from PA This post has been edited by zanky: Oct 12 2013, 19:12
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Oct 12 2013, 19:10
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Saika_
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Where have you guys stopped with adept learner? Started last week, up to 130 but I wonder if it's worth going on since I'm basically spending all my daily galleries money on it... And you people should stop tempting noobs like me with light cloth and such when it means I'll have to start from a 0 proficiency (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Oct 12 2013, 19:10
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erwtsnert
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Thing with Estoc vs Mace on higher levels+power gear is that monsters usually die too quickly, you won't get many hits on them while they're PA'd anyway.
Estocs in my opinion only really shine when doing marathons.
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Oct 12 2013, 19:16
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zanky
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QUOTE(Klauser57 @ Oct 13 2013, 00:10)  Where have you guys stopped with adept learner? Started last week, up to 130 but I wonder if it's worth going on since I'm basically spending all my daily galleries money on it... And you people should stop tempting noobs like me with light cloth and such when it means I'll have to start from a 0 proficiency (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) it's worth (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) at least to me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) but zen_zen chose other choise. he save his C for equip, binding and other stuff QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Oct 13 2013, 00:10)  Thing with Estoc vs Mace on higher levels+power gear is that monsters usually die too quickly, you won't get many hits on them while they're PA'd anyway.
Estocs in my opinion only really shine when doing marathons.
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) if it like that, longsword will be better. exspecially if monster die with just 3-5 hit wait, so niten is more better choise (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) damn. I'm glad increase both DW and 2H. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by zanky: Oct 12 2013, 19:18
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