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That was my first Mag from shrining Noodles (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

how lucky. i never get good equip like that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Which arenas are worth clearing if I want Mag/Leg gear at these difficulties? (For Trio and later, I run out of mana at a higher difficulty, I haven't tried replacing protection haste veil with scrolls yet to save mana)

A Dance With Dragons at Nightmare
Eternal Darkness at Hell
End of Days Nintendo
The Trio and the Tree IWBTH and everything below that IWBTH
early arenas up to Dark Skies PFUDOR

Other question is does anyone currently use Heavy Armor and Estoc or DW to clear DWD at a really high difficulty or does everyone pretty much use light armor or mage?

i use mace and light for PFUDOR T&T

i never go to marathon but nobody_xxx can clear IWTB DWD easily

i use mace and light for PFUDOR T&T

i never go to marathon but nobody_xxx can clear IWTB DWD easily

I can clear PFUDOR DwD easily too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

still waiting peerless drop for DwD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I tested the Grindfest on Battletoads and cleared 32 rounds with an Estoc and 47 with the Longsword.

I tested the Grindfest on Battletoads and cleared 32 rounds with an Estoc and 47 with the Longsword.

Bleed damage is kind of disappointing compared to penetrated armor. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I tested the Grindfest on Battletoads and cleared 32 rounds with an Estoc and 47 with the Longsword.

Because your level (and monsters' level) is ~200. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by Colman: Oct 11 2013, 19:12

out of curiosity, what weapon and armor type are the best for evasion, raising parry and/or counter attacks? what stats should i focus on for a parry build?

This post has been edited by zekana: Oct 11 2013, 21:48

Evasion - Shade of the Fleet, Weapon - Rapier of the Nimble, and for stats Dexterity.

But why are longswords junk?
People are always talking about using an estoc but when I use this I don't see any noticeable difference, if at all.[/url]

Because your longsword is ethereal while your estoc is elemental. If your estoc is ethereal, moreover if you play nintendo+, you will appreciate penetrated armor more than bleeding. However, if you play normal or hard, your longsword fare much better than any estoc with the same weapon damage.

Anyway, that longsword is really good. I have ethereal estoc (paired with full slaughter armor) to play at lower difficulty, I choose it over hallowed scythe only because it's ethereal. If I have ethereal bleeding weapon with comparable damage, I would use it over my estoc. About it's pricing, I actually don't really know, but since I can't use longsword for higher than hell, I guess 100k-150k is fair for an exquisite. if you're unlucky, 50k is all you can get.

Oh, few hours ago, very good ethereal club of slaughter was sold at 5k. Can you believe how low it could get? I need that but I was not fast enough

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out of curiosity, what weapon and armor type are the best for evasion, raising parry and/or counter attacks? what stats should i focus on for a parry build?

I believe you've missed my last reply about your choice of armor. I said, you'd better give up evade armors if you play 1H. I'll be damned if you missed this reply again.

I believe you've missed my last reply about your choice of armor. I said, you'd better give up evade armors if you play 1H. I'll be damned if you missed this reply again.

i didn't miss your reply. i simply want to know if dual wield, 2 handed, or the other fighting styles are better for evade or if evade simply is not worth it at all, even with alternate types of weapons?

Evade works best with 2H since its parry is minimum, or would it better be said 2H don't have much choices? 0.77 make 2H less survivable with heavy.

Evade stacks well with DW.

Evade works best with 2H since its parry is minimum, or would it better be said 2H don't have much choices? 0.77 make 2H less survivable with heavy.

Evade stacks well with DW.

Evade is the first in a chain of calculations for damage prevention. Naturally Parry, Block, Resist and Mitigations come after. Getting high amounts of parry while already having high amounts of evade means you'll simply parry less compared to the total amount of enemy attacks than if you had 0 evade.

There are basically three kinds of builds for every fighting style:
Mitigation/Block (Leather, Protection Plate, Shield)
Evade (Shade)
Damage (Power)

Having high evade means going for a low amount of burden most of the time, since shade has no burden. This ties in well with DW/Niten because of the Swift Strike potency you'll get on your weaopns. Having burden above 40 will negate a part (or every bit) of Attack Speed Bonus. 1H doesn't work very well with evade and 2H is paired with power armor most of the time.

@Zekana
Like I always say, spread out your stats, putting too much into one of them will simply make you weaker. If you're looking for a specific PAB on a piece of equipment for Parry then DEX is the one you want.

@Klauser
Like Clarky said, it's mainly about Elemental vs Ethereal, your mana costs are lower, you'll have more evade, you'll likely have more attack speed, etc with an Ethereal weapon. Most importantly your damage output is most likely to be higher too with an Ethereal longsword simply because stacking PA with an Estoc takes time, whereas the extra damage of your longsword applies immediately.

1H Axe is not too bad IMO. With power armor, it kill pretty fast in hell. Haven't try it in IWBTH+.

Wish to do that.

For now:
(IMG:[www.touhou.pl] http://www.touhou.pl/wgrajnaload/LittleSweetLoli/arenas-12-10-2013.PNG)

And ROB:
(IMG:[www.touhou.pl] http://www.touhou.pl/wgrajnaload/LittleSweetLoli/rob-12-10-2013.png)

You should clear that FSM and TTT ( normal ) for credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

You should clear that FSM and TTT ( normal ) for credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

maybe he don\t have enough ToB now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

@loli I give you some advice long time ago. maybe you need reread this
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showt...p;#entry2785545

This post has been edited by zanky: Oct 12 2013, 04:16

About it's pricing, I actually don't really know, but since I can't use longsword for higher than hell, I guess 100k-150k is fair for an exquisite. if you're unlucky, 50k is all you can get.

Oh, few hours ago, very good ethereal club of slaughter was sold at 5k. Can you believe how low it could get? I need that but I was not fast enough

100k is to much for longsword.

well diferent ppl got different though so i can't complain (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

but some ppl give those thing for free. isn't you also do that to? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

do you remember, i got Superior Ethereal Axe of Slaughter for free. and you PM me and gimme "damn you"? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

@Klauser57
longsword just junk because

PA can stack 3 times so we can deal damage 175% with PA buff stick on monster

and ppl who reach 320+ like nobody always use IWTB+ difficulty.
you can see he always said clear something on hard difficulty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(longsword better in low difficulty. like normal)

so you can sell your longsword for 50k for ppl who need those. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
i think 100k is too much, but maybe you can sell for 100k if you lucky (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

but for me, ppl around my lvl and ppl above me usually think, longsword just junk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

This post has been edited by zanky: Oct 12 2013, 04:37

100k is to much for longsword.

@Klauser57
longsword just junk because
and ppl who reach 320+ like nobody always use IWTB+ difficulty.
you can see he always said clear something on hard difficulty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(longsword better in low difficulty. like normal)

so you can sell your longsword for 50k for ppl who need those. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
i think 100k is too much, but maybe you can sell for 100k if you lucky (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

but for me, ppl around my lvl and ppl above me usually think, longsword just junk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

It's not junk perse, scythes used to be the go-to weapon for clearing waves on normal-nightmare, maybe hell too, but scythes are no more. New longswords are actually better than the old scythe in every possible way when you get an ethereal one, and they are less rare aswell. Now that longswords are the only high-damage bleed weapon that drops, we might see the price for good ones go up.

It's not junk perse, scythes used to be the go-to weapon for clearing waves on normal-nightmare, maybe hell too, but scythes are no more. New longswords are actually better than the old scythe in every possible way when you get an ethereal one, and they are less rare aswell. Now that longswords are the only high-damage bleed weapon that drops, we might see the price for good ones go up.

indeed. for normal to nightmare longsword will be better than estoc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

but we also must consider, full upgrade estoc will be better than normal longsword and estoc also good for high difficulty.(i'm still using mace now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) i can't survive in PFUDOR with longsword or estoc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif))

btw i calculate the price will drop in ~2 or 3 month (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

i didn't miss your reply. i simply want to know if dual wield, 2 handed, or the other fighting styles are better for evade or if evade simply is not worth it at all, even with alternate types of weapons?

this strange. if you like evade then use DW like zen_zen or solarhawk.

and 1H better combine with heavy


This post has been edited by zanky: Oct 12 2013, 05:44

which staff deal more for fire spells?


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destruction has 60 more base magic dmg

surtr has 20% more fire bonus dmg

i cant figure which staffs deal more...

help me