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post Oct 10 2013, 04:46
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Oct 9 2013, 17:21) *

I guess you bought your club around new year guessing from ID?

I bought mine just before the patch removed 4 pabs so i got a final 4pab version club, possible the last one to drop
My club.
After reducing 26% of your damage due to slaughter bindings and butcher potencies i end up with 56 damage difference between our clubs, mine although has higher str pab then yours so it's even further reduced.

In the end i see almost no difference between them and am satisfied at my purchase (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).
Mine already has 4 stun proc though.

Btw i sent you a pm a while ago, did you read it?


No, it was way before new year. It was like July/August 2012. So yeah, I've went over a year now without finding an upgrade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . And yes, yours is a nice club, imo (and it is one of the last 4 PAB ones to drop, around 31.5 million equip ID was when .77 hit). 4 PABs, 22% proc, mag max strength, sup max dexterity. Damage is meh, 52.9 is missing quite a bit from mag max, but so is mine, it was around 55 base damage originally I think. I mainly bought mine because it's pretty much the only four PAB ethereal with max proc I had ever seen at that point, but I'd kill for a 64 base damage legendary (like that Tempestuous one but ethereal). Damage is much more important than strength because it scales faster and has greater benefits from forging. But it is hard enough to find a four PAB ethereal with over 20% proc and decent damage.

And yeah, I got your PM, umm... fuck, just gimme a sec and I'll send a response (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .
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post Oct 10 2013, 05:14
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@zanky

you should keep offline (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

maybe this error have some connection with your activity (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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@revsex

yeah , i will miss it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)



@t_starrk

still too lazy to max your estoc and rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


same with me , too lazy doing IW at the moment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

that why my gear set will never maxed at the moment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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post Oct 10 2013, 05:21
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 10 2013, 10:14) *

@zanky

you should keep offline (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

maybe this error have some connection with your activity (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

to bad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) i don't have time to online lately

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I have appointment and have to go now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

if not, i'll just keep online and make error for you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Oct 10 2013, 05:23
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QUOTE(zanky @ Oct 10 2013, 11:21) *

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to bad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I have appointment and have to go now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

if not, i'll just keep online and make error for you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


HV will normal again soon , yay (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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i will offline too soon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Oct 10 2013, 06:00
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Oct 9 2013, 19:46) *

No, it was way before new year. It was like July/August 2012. So yeah, I've went over a year now without finding an upgrade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . And yes, yours is a nice club, imo (and it is one of the last 4 PAB ones to drop, around 31.5 million equip ID was when .77 hit). 4 PABs, 22% proc, mag max strength, sup max dexterity. Damage is meh, 52.9 is missing quite a bit from mag max, but so is mine, it was around 55 base damage originally I think. I mainly bought mine because it's pretty much the only four PAB ethereal with max proc I had ever seen at that point, but I'd kill for a 64 base damage legendary (like that Tempestuous one but ethereal). Damage is much more important than strength because it scales faster and has greater benefits from forging. But it is hard enough to find a four PAB ethereal with over 20% proc and decent damage.

And yeah, I got your PM, umm... fuck, just gimme a sec and I'll send a response (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .


Was it announced when the PAB was removed?
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post Oct 10 2013, 06:04
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 9 2013, 18:49) *

Dark S for one hand weapon, with lv 5 potency seem very difficult in the current patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) .
Forget the elemental strike, I almost always got all 4 type of potency on weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) .


Geez, it's like you are describing my Axe in every detail. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 10 2013, 08:13
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QUOTE(zanky @ Oct 10 2013, 03:21) *

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to bad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) i don't have time to online lately

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I have appointment and have to go now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

if not, i'll just keep online and make error for you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

Now Tenboro get the problem.

I hope that HV will be fixed when you come back online (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 10 2013, 08:44
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Tokenizer I(*3) Doubles the chance of random mob token drops. 1,000 Hath

Tokenizer II Triples the chance of random mob token drops.
Requires Tokenizer I 2,500 Hath

Tokenizer III Quadruples the chance of random mob token drops.
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Each rank of this perk also increases the relative drop rate of Chaos Tokens as opposed to Blood Tokens.
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Does that means that I have less chance to see a Token of Blood appear and instead Chaos Token popping up ,after i take the Tokenizer?
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post Oct 10 2013, 09:31
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Oct 10 2013, 00:04) *

Lol, I never noticed how the new phase is back to how the really old phase looked, with attack accuracy and resist.

Also, flimsy gear is actually worth something to collectors. Not much but something, especially flimsy third tier armor.

HAHA. I actually MAXed it out for fun. You don't see flimsy very much (if at all). It is actually owned by freakerup and I just sent it back to him. I'm sure he is open to selling it to any collectors interested in owning it. I just wanted the experience and drops from running it through IW.
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post Oct 10 2013, 12:01
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wiki trolled me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

I'm aiming for lv5 Jug (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 10 2013, 12:53
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Oct 10 2013, 12:00) *

Was it announced when the PAB was removed?


No.

QUOTE(kirua40 @ Oct 10 2013, 14:44) *

Does that means that I have less chance to see a Token of Blood appear and instead Chaos Token popping up ,after i take the Tokenizer?


Yes.

QUOTE(cruelsion @ Oct 10 2013, 18:01) *

wiki trolled me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

I'm aiming for lv5 Jug (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Things that scale will scale. HP/MP won't scale so it's the same across level. I've tried to clarify that.
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post Oct 10 2013, 13:51
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Pff come on I made the mistake of opening the previous state on Firefox and now I have 86 stamina instead of 100 this is ridiculous.
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post Oct 10 2013, 13:59
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Oct 9 2013, 20:00) *

Was it announced when the PAB was removed?


It wasn't put in the patch notes but I'm pretty sure it was removed for .77 (being that people were still getting 4 PAB weapons right before the patch hit).
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post Oct 10 2013, 14:20
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Oct 10 2013, 13:59) *

It wasn't put in the patch notes but I'm pretty sure it was removed for .77 (being that people were still getting 4 PAB weapons right before the patch hit).


Tenb Ninja nerfing everything (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 10 2013, 16:00
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Oct 10 2013, 13:13) *

Now Tenboro get the problem.

I hope that HV will be fixed when you come back online (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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HV back online when i online (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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2 hours ago: HV is back online.
7 hours ago: Welp, the Cassandra cluster broke apart again. HV will be down for a while.
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post Oct 10 2013, 20:53
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@Klauser57: Something like stamina, rest assured, is completely server-side.

@kirua40: It decreases the blood tokens in arena token bonus, but overall...I think that even just doing the arenas up to trio will still result in overall blood token increase with token I.
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post Oct 10 2013, 21:22
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39 7 You gain 323219 EXP!
39 6 Sai Bunny dropped [Greater Mana Potion]
39 5 Diablo I dropped [72 Credits]
39 4 You are Victorious!
39 3 Mikuru Asahina has been defeated.
39 2 Void Strike hits Mikuru Asahina for 2489 void damage.
39 1 You hit Mikuru Asahina for 6266 void damage.
38 4 Bleeding Wound hits Mikuru Asahina for 4529 damage.
38 3 Mikuru Asahina gains the effect Bleeding Wound.

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112 turns to take down Mikuru without Spirit stance, 30 rounds to go, not sure if I'll be able to do it...


72 to kill her without spirit. Still... Hard. But much difference with Etheral Weapon. Still too long.

But I got full Pack Rat (5 HP, 2 SP and rest MP, fug yeah), so I can do it... 19 rounds to go.

Konata - still easiest to kill.

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post Oct 10 2013, 21:52
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Butcher L5 or Fatality L5, which is better in your opinion? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Oct 10 2013, 21:55
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QUOTE(LittleSweetLoli @ Oct 10 2013, 21:22) *

72 to kill her without spirit. Still... Hard. But much difference with Etheral Weapon. Still too long.


72 isn't too bad if on IWBTH, on Hard it's too high. Did you use holy/dark infusions? That can really speed things up.



QUOTE(Laboq @ Oct 10 2013, 21:52) *

Butcher L5 or Fatality L5, which is better in your opinion? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)


Butcher on main-hand Fatality on off-hand is what I'd say, but Cats Lover did some maths a few pages back.

Found it!

QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Oct 6 2013, 11:29) *

Butcher vs Fatality vs Swift Strike vs Overpower

I think that:

- Fatailty+Butcher is the best combination for Heavy who has high burden. (and Fatality > Butcher)
- Swift Strike+Fatality is the best one for Light. (and Swift Strike > Fatality because +10% atk spd means +10% damage output.)

Overpower is also good, but it depends on monsters...
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2842014

What's your opinion about this?
In my case (1H Heavy) with Heartseeker:

- No potency -
AD: 6158
WD: 897
crit%: 28.1% / crit dmg +50% -> crit%: 35.29% / crit dmg +64%
Average dmg = ((6158 * 0.6471) + (6158 * 0.3529 * 1.64)) * 1.25 = 9436.03

- Butcher Lv5 -
AD: 6247
WD: 986
crit%: 28.1% / crit dmg +50% -> crit%: 35.29% / crit dmg +64%
Total = ((6247 * 0.6471) + (6247 * 0.3529 * 1.64)) * 1.25 = 9572.4
+136.37 (1.4452%)

- Fatality Lv5 -
AD: 6158
WD: 897
crit%: 28.1% / crit dmg +60% -> crit%: 35.29% / crit dmg +74%
Average = ((6158 * 0.6471) + (6158 * 0.3529 * 1.74)) * 1.25 = 9707.67
+271.64 (2.8788%)


Fatality seems better on average if you run with slaugher or DW. A few notes, though:

Attack speed simply means enemies will hit you less, you won't be doing any extra damage. Your buffs will stick longer though. Swift Strike is not bad on heavy if using featherweights, having less than 40 burden will not give you any attack speed penalties.

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post Oct 10 2013, 22:05
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Oct 10 2013, 21:55) *
Fatality seems better on average if you run with slaugher or DW.

Sweet, thanks!
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