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I'm noticing that as I progress further and gain clear more rounds, all of my weapon's base Damages are increasing. Can anyone clarify what is this?

TenB states "- Katanas now have slightly higher +damage [30,50] and +attack accuracy [15, 35], lower +burden [40,20], and higher +DEX [12,25] and +AGI [4,10]. ". How does a slightly higher everything make the old Katana obsolete? I read this to mean that the highest ranked older Katana will be eclipsed by the new version but wouldn't the vast majority of the Exquisite and Magnificent Katana, new or old would be used and abused by most HV players? Does the ranges presented in the above statement show vast improvements over the old to warrant the use of the word 'obsolete'?

The slightly increased stat make a new exq class stronger than an old mag class (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .

I'm noticing that as I progress further and gain clear more rounds, all of my weapon's base Damages are increasing. Can anyone clarify what is this?

Gears' stat grow with your level.
See this page

The slightly increased stat make a new exq class stronger than an old mag class (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .

You missed the entire point of his post.

Why use lesser katana when you can use NEW KATANA.



But i want to ask everyone if their Multishriner script is broken, mine stopped working a few days ago.
Reinstall didn't work and using a portable iron and installing it there didn't work either so i guess Tenboro updated something on that page?

the random encounters are supposed to be happen every hour right? many times during a day when i checked it was just not there, i made sure i didn't skip it while browsing but yea.. is this normal?

the random encounters are supposed to be happen every hour right? many times during a day when i checked it was just not there, i made sure i didn't skip it while browsing but yea.. is this normal?

If it does not work and you're using Chrome, change the browser. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=144182

the random encounters are supposed to be happen every hour right? many times during a day when i checked it was just not there, i made sure i didn't skip it while browsing but yea.. is this normal?

looks like i have same problem now like you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

RE disappear now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

TenB states "- Katanas now have slightly higher +damage [30,50] and +attack accuracy [15, 35], lower +burden [40,20], and higher +DEX [12,25] and +AGI [4,10]. ". How does a slightly higher everything make the old Katana obsolete? I read this to mean that the highest ranked older Katana will be eclipsed by the new version but wouldn't the vast majority of the Exquisite and Magnificent Katana, new or old would be used and abused by most HV players? Does the ranges presented in the above statement show vast improvements over the old to warrant the use of the word 'obsolete'?

What I mean by saying obsolete is that it's old, can be phased out or should be replaced with new, "better" alternatives as quickly as possible. To be honest it is obsolete, the old ones can be used, ofcourse, but they're going to be replaced quickly as new ones start dropping. The damage increase on non-slaughter katanas is 6%, that's nothing to scoff at. Those few 100's of damage are what people sometimes plunk millions of credits at. There's no reason to get an old katana unless you don't have much credits to spend.

Not to mention the other stats are increased aswell. It's like you're getting an Mag instead of an Ex as Colman stated.

This post has been edited by erwtsnert: Oct 7 2013, 16:01

What zen_zen is saying is this:— Since he believes that Niten is what most melee players use, he wonder why would a a small buff to katana made any difference for people to give a damn since it's already so awesome anyway.

Niten is not that awesome, at least I don't believe so. It is pretty strong but at higher levels/difficulty it feels like it falls off. With DW and 2H you have choices in weapons and procs, but with niten you are stuck with the same thing, honestly DW seems like the most awesome. But you should be good in both 2H and DW if you are going Niten sine Niten stats scale off of both 2H and DW.

Question: I like my utility more than damage, i.e., I like battlecaster or balance weapons more than slaughter, obviously I wouldn't turn one away but if I had a choice I wouldn't go slaughter. So when going through IW and gaining potencies I hate getting butcher...I want to get all the counter-parry I can but I am unsure of what to aim for after... which is better, fatality or swift strike?

It might be situational, but if you have an idea of which is better in which situation, please tell.

What I mean by saying obsolete is that it's old, can be phased out or should be replaced with new, "better" alternatives as quickly as possible. To be honest it is obsolete, the old ones can be used, ofcourse, but they're going to be replaced quickly as new ones start dropping. The damage increase on non-slaughter katanas is 6%, that's nothing to scoff at. Those few 100's of damage are what people sometimes plunk millions of credits at. There's no reason to get an old katana unless you don't have much credits to spend.

Not to mention the other stats are increased aswell. It's like you're getting an Mag instead of an Ex as Colman stated.

"Those few 100's of damage..." has been going on probably from the inception of HV, regardless of equipment type, new or old. Rereading TenB's bulletin about the katana, with the exception of improvements in the Burden/Interference, all of the others can be compensated for via the Forge.

If you have an above average katana that's been leveled to the MAX, you'll probably have invested nearly 1,000,000 credits into it. You are just going to up and toss this away because of something that's shiny and new? Few judiciously placed upgrades in the Forge should bring the existing equipment up to par to anything (of equal level) that drops new.

My point, if you already have an outstanding katana,, why should a slight improvement made by the system suddenly make that equipment obsolete? The keyword being 'slight'...

@buktore,

Sorry, but I am a DW Light though I do want to try all the discipline of melee including the Niten. I picked the katana as an example because I was browsing through WTS and found this Katana for less than a song. I pm'ed the owner to find out if it was a typo but sure enough I received the katana and given the link to the bulletin from TenB for v0.77, along with his view that this was now obsolete. Of course, I was glad to have found the katana but also somewhat disturbed that it was being discarded so readily with the replacement nowhere in sight.

Niten is not that awesome, at least I don't believe so. It is pretty strong but at higher levels/difficulty it feels like it falls off. With DW and 2H you have choices in weapons and procs, but with niten you are stuck with the same thing, honestly DW seems like the most awesome. But you should be good in both 2H and DW if you are going Niten since Niten stats scale off of both 2H and DW.

But, but, your current signature is all about niten
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@zen_zen
Let's just say erwtsnert use obsolete for the lack of better term, or didn't know one. Let's just say old katana is "outclassed a bit", "relatively poorer stat", "not all hip anymore", "less attractive", well I could go on but we can reconcile over this choice of words matter, right?

Anyway, how much is a song? about tree fiddy?
That katana seems to be IW-ed not by you, if it was sold cheap, wow, I also want that! It will need some feather though, its burden make it unwieldy.

This post has been edited by clarkiest: Oct 8 2013, 02:34

But, but, your current signature is all about niten
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

@zen_zen
Let's just say erwtsnert use obsolete for the lack of better term, or didn't know one. Let's just say old katana is "outclassed a bit", "relatively poorer stat", "not all hip anymore", "less attractive", well I could go on but we can reconcile over this choice of words matter, right?

Anyway, how much is a song? about tree fiddy?
That katana seems to be IW-ed not by you, if it was sold cheap, wow, I also want that! It will need some feather though, its burden make it unwieldy.

As I've told you before I am committed to DW Light until I clear the last Arena in IWBTH, it will be some time before the level even opens up for me.

Do you want it clarky, pm me to discuss. I am doing IW right now, it will be a long while before I can gain access to my inventory.

I'm currently training a few monsters as sustainable sources of HG materials.
So far I know PL500 is the minimum for HG gift appear.
Then, how is the chance of HG? Is it same as the old linear scaling (1% per 10PL)?

Any recommended PL?

But, but, your current signature is all about niten
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I haven't updated my sig in a long time. I AM using niten right now, but is more for fun cuz right now my armor doesn't make sense really, lol. I'll update my sig with all my setups later tonight.

Oh, one more question, has anyone figured out if PFUDOR gives more credits? Wiki still has question mark beside it.

This post has been edited by SPoison: Oct 8 2013, 05:58

I haven't updated my sig in a long time. I AM using niten right now, but is more for fun cuz right now my armor doesn't make sense really, lol. I'll update my sig with all my setups later tonight.

Oh, one more question, has anyone figured out if PFUDOR gives more credits? Wiki still has question mark beside it.

I think it does, I've been leaving the difficulty setting in PFUDOR since it's been announced and RE seems to hand out few hundreds of credits when credit drops.

Niten is not that awesome, at least I don't believe so. It is pretty strong but at higher levels/difficulty it feels like it falls off. With DW and 2H you have choices in weapons and procs, but with niten you are stuck with the same thing, honestly DW seems like the most awesome. But you should be good in both 2H and DW if you are going Niten sine Niten stats scale off of both 2H and DW.

Question: I like my utility more than damage, i.e., I like battlecaster or balance weapons more than slaughter, obviously I wouldn't turn one away but if I had a choice I wouldn't go slaughter. So when going through IW and gaining potencies I hate getting butcher...I want to get all the counter-parry I can but I am unsure of what to aim for after... which is better, fatality or swift strike?

It might be situational, but if you have an idea of which is better in which situation, please tell.

Counter parry is useless for 1h and marginal for DW (axe/rapier only, not needed for club/rapier). It would shine for non-mace 2handers. SS is the best for anything (except bleeders on low difficulty); results are guaranteed. Fatality desired mostly for DW build.

I'm currently training a few monsters as sustainable sources of HG materials.
So far I know PL500 is the minimum for HG gift appear.
Then, how is the chance of HG? Is it same as the old linear scaling (1% per 10PL)?

Any recommended PL?

If you want reliability, you need to get at least PL 750, so that you can get rid of LG rolls. Or go all the way to PL 1500 if you can afford it and lose MG rolls too. Past 750, it's more about chaos tokens than PL to get wins. I spent a small fortune getting my top mob past 750, but have to say the investment has paid off. Oddly though it never brings slaughter bindings (only my trash mobs do lol) but has brought quite a few Phazons.

I'm currently training a few monsters as sustainable sources of HG materials.
So far I know PL500 is the minimum for HG gift appear.
Then, how is the chance of HG? Is it same as the old linear scaling (1% per 10PL)?

Any recommended PL?

This is for old days, but it seems to be nearly the same just now.

PL 499 - The minimum chance to get HG
PL 714 (about 1.4M to train) - No more LG
PL 990 (about 5M to train) - HG 25%
PL 1205 (about 11M to train) - HG 50%
PL 1503 (about 34M to train) - HG 100%