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post Oct 6 2013, 06:05
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i never use sleep (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


IA4 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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post Oct 6 2013, 06:08
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Why not just go with 2H instead of DW if you're going to based your gameplay around using skill? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Or was it about marathon arenas? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Oct 6 2013, 06:18
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QUOTE(buktore @ Oct 6 2013, 11:08) *

Why not just go with 2H instead of DW if you're going to based your gameplay around using skill? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Or was it about marathon arenas? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

who (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Oct 6 2013, 06:21
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 6 2013, 12:05) *

i never use sleep (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
IA4 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Is IA4 worth the 500 hath? If it is, I will aim for it.
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post Oct 6 2013, 06:24
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 6 2013, 11:18) *


https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2844161
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post Oct 6 2013, 06:25
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 6 2013, 11:21) *

Is IA4 worth the 500 hath? If it is, I will aim for it.

well , all of that hath moguls have IA5 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

i think it is good for now , i try it now in DwD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 6 2013, 07:02
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 6 2013, 04:25) *

well , all of that hath moguls have IA5 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

i think it is good for now , i try it now in DwD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Do you put there all available buff except SoL?
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post Oct 6 2013, 07:03
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Do you put there all available buff except SoL?

yeah (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


i'm bankrupt now , 11M gone in 1 night (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Oct 6 2013, 08:38
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QUOTE(buktore @ Oct 6 2013, 12:08) *

Why not just go with 2H instead of DW if you're going to based your gameplay around using skill? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Or was it about marathon arenas? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I dunno. I was always a DW. Except when my level was below 50 (at that time I was using the Naked Kung Fu Monk style). I'm just looking to make the most out of DW.

If 2H = gameplay around using skill, then DW = ???
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post Oct 6 2013, 08:41
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Oct 6 2013, 13:38) *

I dunno. I was always a DW. Except when my level was below 50 (at that time I was using the Naked Kung Fu Monk style). I'm just looking to make the most out of DW.

If 2H = gameplay around using skill, then DW = ???

that for mace , estoc user like me rarely now using skill coz GC get nerf alot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 6 2013, 09:41
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Oct 6 2013, 13:38) *

If 2H = gameplay around using skill, then DW = ???


That's not what I meant. What I meant is that, just like how 1H is the easiest/most effective to play with just SS+Normal attack— if you're going to based your gameplay around skill on general play, some style are easier to do/more effective than the other; Niten, for instance, is the easiest of all melee style to play with skill because it doesn't require any chaining to use and it will proc x3PA/x5Bleed regardless of the monster status.
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post Oct 6 2013, 10:30
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QUOTE(buktore @ Oct 6 2013, 15:41) *

That's not what I meant. What I meant is that, just like how 1H is the easiest/most effective to play with just SS+Normal attack— if you're going to based your gameplay around skill on general play, some style are easier to do/more effective than the other; Niten, for instance, is the easiest of all melee style to play with skill because it doesn't require any chaining to use and it will proc x3PA/x5Bleed regardless of the monster status.

I see now. When you said 2H, it's because 2H's skills are effective compared to DW (in marathons). 2H's T2 & T3 skills work on multiple enemies while proc PA & Stun respectively. While DW's FB doesn't proc anything.
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post Oct 6 2013, 10:37
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QUOTE(buktore @ Oct 6 2013, 00:41) *

That's not what I meant. What I meant is that, just like how 1H is the easiest/most effective to play with just SS+Normal attack— if you're going to based your gameplay around skill on general play, some style are easier to do/more effective than the other; Niten, for instance, is the easiest of all melee style to play with skill because it doesn't require any chaining to use and it will proc x3PA/x5Bleed regardless of the monster status.


Huh, just my luck that I had to pick the hardest/least effective fighting style to play HV (DW Light). I don't know about Hujan but I won't even bother trying other fighting styles until I achieve Dohvakiin status in DW Light. It's a fairly dubious achievement but nonetheless, it is a milestone of a sort in HV. Beside, my meager credit flow simply won't allow me the luxury of trying to support different fighting styles. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Oct 6 2013, 11:11
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Oct 6 2013, 15:30) *

When you said 2H, it's because 2H's skills are effective compared to DW (in marathons).


I haven't played DW seriously for a while now (too lazy to do marathon + IW my club & rapier...), but I would say DW is better than 2H in marathon; DW skill does a lot of dmg from what I remember.

I'm sure someone else will going to give you a better answer about this than me though...

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post Oct 6 2013, 11:29
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Butcher vs Fatality vs Swift Strike vs Overpower

I think that:

- Fatailty+Butcher is the best combination for Heavy who has high burden. (and Fatality > Butcher)
- Swift Strike+Fatality is the best one for Light. (and Swift Strike > Fatality because +10% atk spd means +10% damage output.)

Overpower is also good, but it depends on monsters...
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2842014

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In my case (1H Heavy) with Heartseeker:

- No potency -
AD: 6158
WD: 897
crit%: 28.1% / crit dmg +50% -> crit%: 35.29% / crit dmg +64%
Average dmg = ((6158 * 0.6471) + (6158 * 0.3529 * 1.64)) * 1.25 = 9436.03

- Butcher Lv5 -
AD: 6247
WD: 986
crit%: 28.1% / crit dmg +50% -> crit%: 35.29% / crit dmg +64%
Total = ((6247 * 0.6471) + (6247 * 0.3529 * 1.64)) * 1.25 = 9572.4
+136.37 (1.4452%)

- Fatality Lv5 -
AD: 6158
WD: 897
crit%: 28.1% / crit dmg +60% -> crit%: 35.29% / crit dmg +74%
Average = ((6158 * 0.6471) + (6158 * 0.3529 * 1.74)) * 1.25 = 9707.67
+271.64 (2.8788%)


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post Oct 6 2013, 11:57
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Any advice on finishing marathon quicker?
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post Oct 6 2013, 12:04
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Any advice on finishing marathon quicker?

The quickest way is not to play it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .
BTW, I believe I'm a experienced HV player but I still fail in riddle from time to time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Oct 6 2013, 12:08
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 6 2013, 09:57) *

Any advice on finishing marathon quicker?


Increase your offense within keeping your defense (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 6 2013, 12:10
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 6 2013, 10:04) *

BTW, I believe I'm a experienced HV player but I still fail in riddle from time to time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

I also fail sometimes, especially when I'm sleepy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Oct 6 2013, 12:15
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