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post Oct 3 2013, 09:27
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Thanks nobody_xxx, and Jyu Viole Grace (what a mouthful that is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ).
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post Oct 3 2013, 09:50
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 3 2013, 14:01) *

I believe the word you want to use is better

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) yes sensei (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Oct 3 2013, 13:00
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 3 2013, 15:01) *

Hmmm? I think, even player with high level still receive more benefit from a club than from an axe. 500 difference in damage is trivial when up against a monster with 50 million HP. This is why I want to see the use case.
I believe the word you want to use is better

I use axe for my 1H set. It is because I mostly play in low level (hell).
A club is not really useful for 1H IMO.
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post Oct 3 2013, 15:29
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1H become more popular lately (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

i remember using it at lvl 100 below (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 3 2013, 16:30
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I always long for Legendary Etheral Rapier of Slaughter which have good PA and WD, but I can't find that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 3 2013, 16:34
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The amount of potency gain in IW, does it vary with difficulty settings? I mean, shall I get the same amount of potency if I clear one run in either Normal or IWBH difficulty? Or is the amount of potency gain higher with higher difficulty?

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post Oct 3 2013, 16:46
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IWBTH give 7.8 PxP than normal run (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 3 2013, 16:56
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 3 2013, 16:46) *

IWBTH give 7.8 PxP than normal run (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Wait, so that means I can Max Out an Equipment's potency in fewer run if I do IW in IWBTH, right?
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post Oct 3 2013, 16:56
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You can see that here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/setting#Challenge_Level

IWBTH and PFUDOR have the same 7.8x potency exp.
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post Oct 3 2013, 17:00
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QUOTE(kuro009 @ Oct 3 2013, 22:56) *

Wait, so that means I can Max Out an Equipment's potency in fewer run if I do IW in IWBTH, right?

yes , usually you just need 13 IWBTH runs to max equipment lvl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

( i just do 12 IWBTH and 1 BT for last run ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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post Oct 3 2013, 17:01
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Oct 3 2013, 16:56) *

You can see that here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/setting#Challenge_Level

IWBTH and PFUDOR have the same 7.8x potency exp.

I already saw it. but it was kinda confusing for me. The wiki doesn't give details like the people in this thread. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 3 2013, 17:03
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 3 2013, 17:00) *

yes , usually you just need 13 IWBTH runs to max equipment lvl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

( i just do 12 IWBTH and 1 BT for last run ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Thanks for the info. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Oct 3 2013, 17:05
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 3 2013, 13:00) *
I use axe for my 1H set. It is because I mostly play in low level (hell).
A club is not really useful for 1H IMO.

The context for my statement was for DW. 1H won't benefit much from a club indeed. Can I see your set/stat, Colman? I want to know what kind of armor you paired your axe with, and what's minimum PMI you can go with it (so that I won't carelessly attempt all-damage without enough protection).

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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 3 2013, 15:29) *
1H become more popular lately (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
i remember using it at lvl 100 below (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I don't know about others, but I started with 1H. 1H/Light, to be precise. I was adviced against it since light won't offer adequate protection, but now we can deduce that 1H/Light would give best protection. As long as your level is high enough, that is.

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post Oct 3 2013, 17:09
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QUOTE(zanky @ Oct 3 2013, 03:08) *

btw, I'll remember you if you donate ethereal mace and estoc of slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

If only I had that kind of money to throw around (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 3 2013, 17:05) *

The context for my statement was for DW. 1H won't benefit much from a club indeed. Can I see your set/stat, Colman? I want to know what kind of armor you paired your axe with, and what's minimum PMI you can go with it (so that I won't carelessly attempt all-damage without enough protection).


Axe with a rapier has been the standard DW setup to be honest. A few ten or even hundred damage doesn't seem like much, but it stacks up after awhile, especially considering there's the bleed proc aswell.
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post Oct 3 2013, 17:11
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 3 2013, 23:05) *

The context for my statement was for DW. 1H won't benefit much from a club indeed. Can I see your set/stat, Colman? I want to know what kind of armor you paired your axe with, and what's minimum PMI you can go with it (so that I won't carelessly attempt all-damage without enough protection).

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I don't know about others, but I started with 1H. 1H/Light, to be precise. I was adviced against it since light won't offer adequate protection, but now we can deduce that 1H/Light would give best protection. As long as your level is high enough, that is.

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I've only played 2 arenas today, I lost both of them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


well , with 1H light you will lose one of the best 1H ability , counter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

that why alot of 1H using heavy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



i still trapped at DwD now , thanks to my ISP for increasing my ping to 300+ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Oct 3 2013, 17:12
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How much do you think this rapier is worth?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=be58e6950a
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post Oct 3 2013, 17:17
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ Oct 3 2013, 23:12) *

How much do you think this rapier is worth?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=be58e6950a

look like my mag eth rapier but my rapier is better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

4 turns PA , that not good (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

stats , WD is higher than exq max , acc is bit low , crit is low too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



around 1M maybe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

coz it's ethereal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Oct 3 2013, 17:19
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Oct 3 2013, 17:09) *
Axe with a rapier has been the standard DW setup to be honest. A few ten or even hundred damage doesn't seem like much, but it stacks up after awhile, especially considering there's the bleed proc aswell.

Ah, I see now. You can use axe/rapier pair to go up against schoolgirls, since common mobs just die in about five hit bleeding wound won't work noticeable damage on them. It will need to be paired with power or shade, won't it? Because damage must be high enough to trade the safety of stun from a club.

This is good, let's hunt for a good axe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
(wait, I've already bought them)
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post Oct 3 2013, 17:21
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Yep, to be honest there's not much else to pair with. There's Protection plate or Leather, but then you might aswell just go with a club.
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post Oct 3 2013, 17:22
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 3 2013, 23:19) *

Ah, I see now. You can use axe/rapier pair to go up against schoolgirls, since common mobs just die in about five hit bleeding wound won't work noticeable damage on them. It will need to be paired with power or shade, won't it? Because damage must be high enough to trade the safety of stun from a club.

This is good, let's hunt for a good axe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
(wait, I've already bought them)

i'm using mag ethe axe and rapier of slaughter for my DW set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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