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post Oct 1 2013, 21:39
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When you cast a spell, your target has a certain chance of resisting it. That's like parrying, but for magic.
If counter resist procs, the resist is ignored, and your spell lands anyway.
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post Oct 1 2013, 22:25
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QUOTE(shiggy @ Oct 1 2013, 21:39) *

When you cast a spell, your target has a certain chance of resisting it. That's like parrying, but for magic.
If counter resist procs, the resist is ignored, and your spell lands anyway.

Thanks everyone for the answers. But listen:
7 3 Smite hits Sugar Winter for 2570 holy damage (50% resisted)

is this some kind of a bug? There must be 42% cuz my staff has 8% to Counter-Resist.
Or this is true for land spell' chance only? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

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post Oct 1 2013, 22:31
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It doesn't work like that unfortunately, due to the new patch, resist will roll three times with four possible outcomes: full damage, 50% resisted, 75% resisted and 90% resisted.

Counter-resist will simply reduce the chance of getting 50-90% resisted. (or however the maths work out)
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post Oct 1 2013, 22:35
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Oct 1 2013, 22:31) *

It doesn't work like that unfortunately, due to the new patch, resist will roll three times with four possible outcomes: full damage, 50% resisted, 75% resisted and 90% resisted.

Counter-resist will simply reduce the chance of getting 50-90% resisted. (or however the maths work out)

D'oh! That's exactly what I was afraid of. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Thanks.
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post Oct 1 2013, 23:31
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I got 4 chaos and 3 blood tokens from monsters in 2 hours of arena + 3 arena token bonus, that's not normal is it?

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post Oct 1 2013, 23:45
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normal?

sometimes more sometimes less (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Oct 2 2013, 00:44
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I have a question about NITEN style:

What's the best offhand suffix?

Which Wakizashi would be the one to use?

Exquisite Wakizashi of the Battlecaster
Magnificent Wakizashi of Swiftness
Magnificent Wakizashi of Slaughter
Magnificent Ethereal Wakizashi of the Nimble
Legendary Arctic Wakizashi of Balance

Here are my best Katanas:

Exquisite Ethereal Katana of Slaughter
Magnificent Katana of Slaughter
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post Oct 2 2013, 01:09
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There is no best suffix.. it depends on your playstyle.

Battlecaster = Reduced MP cost, Swiftness = Attack Speed, Nimble = Parry, Balance = Offhand chance+ crit.

I would use either the 4th or 5th waki.

Considering you are using a light set, you probably want to use the 4th waki to keep your burden as low as possible.

Nimble waki is supposed to have higher parry chance. But your Leg has more parry than your Mag :\.

So if you're willing to feather the 5th waki, there would be no burden/interference and it would be better than the 4th (higher offhand chance+ crit + parry)

I like parry, so I'm currently using these 2.

Katana + Waki
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post Oct 2 2013, 01:19
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QUOTE(Jyu Viole Grace @ Oct 2 2013, 01:09) *

There is no best suffix.. it depends on your playstyle.

Battlecaster = Reduced MP cost, Swiftness = Attack Speed, Nimble = Parry, Balance = Offhand chance+ crit.

I would use either the 4th or 5th waki.

Considering you are using a light set, you probably want to use the 4th waki to keep your burden as low as possible.

Nimble waki is supposed to have higher parry chance. But your Leg has more parry than your Mag :\.

So if you're willing to feather the 5th waki, there would be no burden/interference and it would be better than the 4th (higher offhand chance+ crit + parry)

I like parry, so I'm currently using these 2.

Katana + Waki


That's my stats with light and unfeathered

Physical Attack

5599 attack base damage
181.4 % hit chance
44.5 % crit chance / +50 % damage
26.7 % attack speed bonus

Defense

66.1 % physical mitigation
60.5 % magical mitigation
44.1 % evade chance
0 % block chance
51.4 % parry chance
62.5 % resist chance
Compromise
61.6 interference
21 burden

These are my stats with heavy and unfeathered

Physical Attack

6979 attack base damage
170 % hit chance
35.8 % crit chance / +50 % damage
3.8 % attack speed bonus

Defense

72.4 % physical mitigation
65.7 % magical mitigation
0 % evade chance
0 % block chance
51.7 % parry chance
19.2 % resist chance
Compromise
105.7 interference
81.9 burden
Is NITEN better with light or with heavy armor?

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post Oct 2 2013, 02:13
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Light and
Legendary Arctic Wakizashi of Balance
Exquisite Ethereal Katana of Slaughter

It's ridiculous how much your stats scale with level...
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post Oct 2 2013, 03:19
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Oct 2 2013, 07:19) *

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Is NITEN better with light or with heavy armor?


Well, I only have enough money to buy one set and I'm using light. So.. I'm not sure how well heavy would work.

For heavy you can refer to these 2 posts though.

erwtsnert timing on PFUDOR arenas and IWTBH IW.
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2834718
And his equipment
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2834738

Edit: Oh yea, my timing is way longer than his. Around 1.5x longer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif).

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post Oct 2 2013, 05:31
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is there a faster way to increase divine prof other than spams R button (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


i'm boring (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Oct 2 2013, 05:52
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1. My total is evade is 41%. Is that bad or decent at my level?

2. I trained 5 levels of LotD to 15/25 just now. Should I increase it again? And the same question applies to the following:

Scavenger - 15/50
Quartermaster - 4/20
Archeologist - 3/10
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post Oct 2 2013, 06:19
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for evade , not that bad though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

i just have around that too with my arcanist set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



for training , you need increase them more (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Oct 2 2013, 06:36
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Oct 1 2013, 23:52) *

1. My total is evade is 41%. Is that bad or decent at my level?

2. I trained 5 levels of LotD to 15/25 just now. Should I increase it again? And the same question applies to the following:

Scavenger - 15/50
Quartermaster - 4/20
Archeologist - 3/10


your evade seems ok overall. what's the longest Arena you can run DW comfortably in PFuDOR? Your club/rapier are pretty good, so you should be able to go pretty deep, end of page 1 maybe? If not...evade (or OH accuracy or crit % or damage...all the stuff T_Starrk educates the DW crowd about (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) deserve some help.

training? biggest scam Tenboro runs in here, especially those 4. of course, if you have more credits than you can spend, go for it, what else can you spend them on? but just treat yourself once in a while to something you can truly enjoy. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

ps. my trainings?

LotD 16/25
Scavenger - 31/50
Quartermaster - 11/20
Archeologist - 5/10

so I too am a masochist...but I haven't worked on any of them for months!

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post Oct 2 2013, 06:43
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@neighbour

are you still using your dual shortsword (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)



using axe+rapier for DW light is a bad idea for PFUDOR , nearly run out of SP clearing eve of death yesterday (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Oct 2 2013, 07:54
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 2 2013, 05:31) *
is there a faster way to increase divine prof other than spams R button (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Why are you grinding divine prof? The only reason I can think is for faster school girl marathon, but doesn't forbidden spells work as well? And spirit theft is awesome once you gain enough proficiency on it.

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i'm boring (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Ahahaha, what unbelievable confession. It is normal to whine that you're bored once in a while, but to confess that you're a boring person, that's some negative humility there. I know well that English isn't your mother language, but you're not middleschooler, ain't you?

Stunggal boso meniko mboten cukup.
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post Oct 2 2013, 07:57
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Why are you grinding divine prof? The only reason I can think is for faster school girl marathon, but doesn't forbidden spells work as well? And spirit theft is awesome once you gain enough proficiency on it.

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Ahahaha, what unbelievable confession. It is normal to whine that you're bored once in a while, but to confess that you're a boring person, that's some negative humility there. I know well that English isn't your mother language, but you're not middleschooler, ain't you?

Stunggal boso meniko mboten cukup.

nah , i just like that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) and (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) emoticon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

it doesn't mean i'm crying (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

that why i need some word to use that emot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)



for DwD , i have holy set mages but kinda lazy to grind divine and staff prof (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Oct 2 2013, 09:17
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@ eramosat

I'm working on it. This is the best I can do:

Roadless Less Travelled - PFUDOR
A Rolling Stone - IWBH
Endgame - Battletoads
The Trio & The Tree - Nintendo
FSM - Nintendo
TT&T - Nightmare

I have 4593 dmg, 95% OH strike & 40.5% crit. I still get a hit A LOT near the end of the arena even if I use Shadow Veil, mostly from New Wings to The Trio & The Tree. I am a masochist, so I always play the same arena at the same difficulty multiple times up to a few weeks to gain confidence before moving up the difficulty.

I raised LotD as I was hoping to get equipment drops with better stats (at least Exq. if not Leg. or Mag.) more often. Look at my gauntlets & boots. Those are from monster drops. I can't hope to max LotD, so I wondered what is the most optimal amount of training that balances benefit-cost.

@ nobody_xxx - Si Pemburu Peralatan Legenda (sounds about right...)

Nah. Shortswords have been retired. It's Club+Rapier now.
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post Oct 2 2013, 09:48
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I've already heard about the turn speed capped at 4 turns per second in 0.76.
In other words, if the latency time is under 250ms, it's as fast as one can have in HV?

And for just curiosity, I couldn't find that on the Release Note 0.76.
Do the users find it by themselves like as many other things?
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