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post Sep 30 2013, 14:19
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Looks alright, replace warding with protection or slaughter if you can. If possible try to not 2H with a katana. I'd say the best time to go back to Niten is when your 2H proficiency is capped out. The proficiency from 2H will be a large part of your damage output, both from the damage ability and domino strike.
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post Sep 30 2013, 14:34
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Well at least you can see the picture ^^
You already told me the wardings aren't good but I checked the market a LOT and people were only selling shitty slaughter or protection armors in my range of price that have no endurance for most of them.The Wardings I bought were better and I'm running out of credits since I got a monster!That bitch is needy.


And the Katana is the only solid weapon I have since I'm waiting till I'm ready to Niten.
I must cap my DW proficiency too I guess?Since I 2handed 2 days ago I'm at 114 now.If I up to 152 will I really hit harder or can I start DW now?

Aw yeah I forgot to ask again.What kind of stats do you need to clear the exquisite item world in say, hard or more?I can't find a wiki page that tells you how many turns you will have in average.Sometimes I can go pretty far before dying but since I don't know how far I am it's useless.

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post Sep 30 2013, 14:42
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DW proficiency mainly gives you accuracy, which you don't really need. It gives you some off-hand strike, but that's only a small part of your damage output. Maxing out 2H will give you another 95 base damage and 4% domino, while maxing out DW would give you 8% off-hand strike at most.

I'd say 2H is the more important one of the two.

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post Sep 30 2013, 14:56
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Sep 30 2013, 19:42) *

DW proficiency mainly gives you accuracy, which you don't really need. It gives you some off-hand strike, but that's only a small part of your damage output. Maxing out 2H will give you another 95 base damage and 4% domino, while maxing out DW would give you 8% off-hand strike at most.

I'd say 2H is the more important one of the two.

hei you forgot to mention dw also increase crit change, and it really help a lot for marathons
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post Sep 30 2013, 14:58
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He's not 250 yet though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 30 2013, 15:02
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Sep 30 2013, 19:58) *

He's not 250 yet though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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it's not hurt to tell him. at least he'll know good point both DW and 2H not inferior compare to niten (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

but i'll leave it to you because you more experience for niten.

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post Sep 30 2013, 15:45
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QUOTE(Klauser57 @ Sep 30 2013, 14:13) *

When can I go back to Niten?Are over 100 in 2h and DW proficiencies not enough?

Over 100 prof in two days?
Duuuuuuuude.......

At best I'm at 30 prof per week.
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post Sep 30 2013, 15:53
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gaining melee prof is easy , my light prof increase from 15 to 45 just in 1 arena run ( eve of death ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

gain mages prof is annoying (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Sep 30 2013, 15:55
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Spam that R button (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 30 2013, 15:57
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Sep 30 2013, 21:55) *

Spam that R button (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I love my R button (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Sep 30 2013, 16:44
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Though it depends on the grear, how long would it take to clear high lvl arenas on PFUDOR and Item World for Leg on IWBTH for "average" players whose lvl is about 350?
Well, it's just a pure curiosity (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'm 1H Heavy and my best records are:
00:23:01 for TT&T
00:40:51 for End of Days
01:06:34 for Eternal Darkness
02:03:44 for DwD
01:09:55 for IW (on IWBTH)

I dunno whether I'm fast or not.
I find that the barrier of 1 hour for Eternal Darkness and IW, 2 hours for DwD is very high for me.
First of all, it's too difficult to concentrate such a long time...

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post Sep 30 2013, 16:53
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QUOTE(ezlifee @ Sep 30 2013, 21:44) *

Though it depends on the grear, how long would it take to clear high lvl arenas on PFUDOR and Item World for Leg on IWBTH for "average" players whose lvl is about 350?
Well, it's just a pure curiosity (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'm 1H Heavy and my best records are:
00:23:01 for TT&T
00:40:51 for End of Days
01:06:34 for Eternal Darkness
02:03:44 for DwD
01:09:55 for IW (on IWBTH)

I dunno whether I'm fast or not.
I find that the barrier of 1 hour for Eternal Darkness and IW, 2 hours for DwD is very high for me.
First of all, it's too difficult to concentrate such a long time...


see your local time , you must be live in europe , so i think that too slow for european player (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Sep 30 2013, 16:56
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Sep 26 2013, 11:08) *

HTTP have extremely fast internet close to HV server , he can finish IWBTH leg IW 0.75 in less than 10 min for 1 run ...
I know since i use his service twice in that patch to max item from lvl 0 ( leg IW in IWBTH are deadly at that patch ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Some ueropean player can clear arena with 1H faster than 2H Estoc coz their action turns are extremely fast before T nerf it in 0.76 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Danixxx can clear old IWBTH DwD 0.75 around 8min (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

HTTP is more faster since danixxx said HTTP is better mages than him .

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post Sep 30 2013, 16:57
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QUOTE(ezlifee @ Sep 30 2013, 16:44) *

00:23:01 for TT&T
00:40:51 for End of Days
01:06:34 for Eternal Darkness
02:03:44 for DwD
01:09:55 for IW (on IWBTH)


Using Niten with a full slaughter set I get the following most of the time:
10-12 minutes TT&T
18-21 minutes End of Days

Too lazy for the other 2 marathons

25 minutes IWBTH 200 round IW

@Zanky

He asked for ~lvl 350 though, Danixxx and HTTP are a little bit above that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
In 0.75? there was no turn cap aswell meaning you could potentially get 10+ turns a second

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post Sep 30 2013, 16:59
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damn. i can only clear in around 50 minutes for PFUDOR T&T (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

@erwtsnert ahh i see sorry

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post Sep 30 2013, 17:09
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Sep 30 2013, 16:53) *

see your local time , you must be live in europe , so i think that too slow for european player (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Meh, I'd say it's not too bad for a 1H user.

战导防御系 mentions in his shop that he takes about 1 hour to clear IWBTH IW with 1H.

QUOTE(zanky @ Sep 30 2013, 16:59) *

damn. i can only clear in around 50 minutes for PFUDOR T&T (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

@erwtsnert ahh i see sorry


No need to be sorry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Still good to know how fast the "Pro's" can clear.
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post Sep 30 2013, 17:10
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Sep 30 2013, 14:53) *

see your local time , you must be live in europe , so i think that too slow for european player (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I live in East Asia. The average latency time is about 300ms~400ms, and even 800+ ms under bad situation. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Well, the server in Europe is faster than other regions? I envy that...
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those hard spelling guy is live is european , znaky (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

i think maybe you live in holland , erwts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


danixxx can clear DwD in 20min ( 40 min for all marathons ) ~ from his post (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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QUOTE(ezlifee @ Sep 30 2013, 22:10) *

I live in East Asia. The average latency time is about 300ms~400ms, and even 800+ ms under bad situation. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Well, the server in Europe is faster than other regions? I envy that...

how did i live in SE asia have better ping (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

i just have 240-250ms , even faster in my office that in borneo ( around 200ms ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

east asia have the fastest connection in the world ( south korea and japan ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

well , that fast ( since you use 1H ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

i need around 18-20 min in T&T (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

never count marathons since i always doing something else in middle run (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Sep 30 2013, 14:57) *

Using Niten with a full slaughter set I get the following most of the time:
10-12 minutes TT&T
18-21 minutes End of Days

Too lazy for the other 2 marathons

25 minutes IWBTH 200 round IW


Oh, great Niten! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
I wonder which gear you equipped and how's your stat for that speed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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