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post Sep 28 2013, 13:41
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QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Sep 28 2013, 18:02) *

All I ever played this game was with 2H Heavy since January this year. So No mage/light/1H/DW/niten

I am in a big trouble aren't I ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you need alot of base damage to clear IWBTH / PFUDOR marathons with 2H heavy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

around 7500 base damage is good enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 28 2013, 14:30
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Sep 28 2013, 06:11) *

@Zanky...

I don't know if you still want to see that... but...

PFUDOR FSM with 1H... ~10 minutes, 567 turns...

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I didn't have used any infusions neither any skills... just attack and Spirit Stance....

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i still want to see it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
i greedy for info (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

and (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) fast enough i think (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

when i try before, i died in turn 382 and i can lower FSM HP to 2717450 from 5928983
i calculate, i need 600 turn to beat it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
i'll try to clear it later (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (i could not right now)

btw thanks, you do it and post your result here.

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post Sep 28 2013, 14:33
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QUOTE(ezlifee @ Sep 28 2013, 06:53) *

Which one would be better if the magic proficiency has come close to level?

A. Cast a spell that costs 50 mana twice
B. Cast a spell that costs 100 mana once

A

QUOTE(Solarhawk @ Sep 28 2013, 08:27) *

It makes perfect sense to me

hmm hmm agree (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(Solarhawk @ Sep 28 2013, 08:27) *

except the specifics of whether he means
Solarhawk No Iutoori (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Sep 28 2013, 14:42
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QUOTE(aukxn @ Sep 28 2013, 15:18) *

can I heal more HP than my base HP by cure spell

nope.
even you already max better cure, it can only heal 50% base HP.
full cure heal 100%(you got that when reach lvl 220, prof doesn't matter)

wait a minutes, i never try hallowed weapon. I think those can increase a little bit your cure effect. I'm not sure so wait other ppl to confirm this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Sep 28 2013, 15:55) *

Nice work really. Shame that I can't clear these marathon even at this lvl yet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


you just don't know how to do it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
if you know, you can beat it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
but use 2H on marathon will be slowest compare using 1H or DW.

note: why i don't include niten? because i also could not calculate what niten can do now. I never try niten because i dont get ethereal katana now

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post Sep 28 2013, 15:05
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Depends on what your 2H weapon is though. You're not going to lag behind much with a good estoc, might be even faster than 1H.

One of the reasons hallowed is one of the most popular strikes is because of the cure bonus. But you'll never reach higher than ~60-65% bonus with them.
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post Sep 28 2013, 15:50
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Sep 28 2013, 20:05) *

Depends on what your 2H weapon is though. You're not going to lag behind much with a good estoc, might be even faster than 1H.

One of the reasons hallowed is one of the most popular strikes is because of the cure bonus. But you'll never reach higher than ~60-65% bonus with them.

you need legendary demonic , hallowed , ethereal estoc of slaughter ( alot of forged ) + good set full slaughter to do IWBTH/PFUDOR DwD marathons with 2H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
( you need alot of feather too )

i try IWBTH DwD with my full set legendary power protection & 2H ( 6600 damage ) , the result i must flee at rounds nearly 100 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

too slow (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

hallowed deal more damage too FSM and schoolgirls except konata (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Sep 28 2013, 16:20
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QUOTE(zanky @ Sep 28 2013, 20:42) *

nope.
even you already max better cure, it can only heal 50% base HP.
full cure heal 100%(you got that when reach lvl 220, prof doesn't matter)

Cure can recover 100% base hp when better cure maxed.
A holy mage can always fully recover his hp by a single cure.

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post Sep 28 2013, 16:49
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i really like this new resist system (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


one thing for sure , negation price will increase (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Sep 28 2013, 17:19
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Sep 28 2013, 10:05) *
One of the reasons hallowed is one of the most popular strikes is because of the cure bonus. But you'll never reach higher than ~60-65% bonus with them.

If I IW my Ethereal weapon and get Holy Strike, I got the bonus too? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) ...or it's only for "Hallowed" prefixed weapon?
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post Sep 28 2013, 17:20
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QUOTE(Colman @ Sep 28 2013, 21:20) *

Cure can recover 100% base hp when better cure maxed.
A holy mage can always fully recover his hp by a single cure.


hmmm (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

when i use cure on v76, it can only heal me around 50% base HP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
i'm sure because i try it. And i really sure, cure with max better cure never heal me more than 60% my max HP. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
maybe because i'm melee
even i'm never put attention on v77, i can say, cure with max better cure never heal me for 100% HP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) (i know because i already try it=> for melee)

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post Sep 28 2013, 17:22
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There's a difference between base and max mind you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 28 2013, 17:23
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@e-stark

nope , only hallowed weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



@zanky


that a nice avatar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


my cure not even heal 50% of my HP ( 18500 ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

only heal around 7700 , but i never bothering with it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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post Sep 28 2013, 17:25
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QUOTE(e-Stark @ Sep 28 2013, 17:19) *

If I IW my Ethereal weapon and get Holy Strike, I got the bonus too? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) ...or it's only for "Hallowed" prefixed weapon?


Guess I should have put that in a better way. It's indeed only for the Hallowed prefix.
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post Sep 28 2013, 17:31
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because nobody claim his cure not even heal 50% base damage then maybe cure with max better cure really not able to heal lot of damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
whatever, we also get full cure which can absolutly heal 100% HP

@nobody_xxx thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 28 2013, 17:42
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Sep 28 2013, 23:23) *

@e-stark

nope , only hallowed weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
@zanky
that a nice avatar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
my cure not even heal 50% of my HP ( 18500 ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

only heal around 7700 , but i never bothering with it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

I have just found that I have more HP than you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 28 2013, 17:51
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I barely even have 14500 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Sep 28 2013, 17:55
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QUOTE(Colman @ Sep 28 2013, 22:42) *

I have just found that I have more HP than you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

i need more MP and SP than HP at the moment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

are you have that aura hath perk , colman that now turn into HP , MP and SP+ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 28 2013, 18:13
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I'm almost at 13k hp, i still need 50 prof in light armor though so i guess i'll have 14-15k when i'm lvl 285~
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post Sep 28 2013, 18:25
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Sep 28 2013, 23:55) *

i need more MP and SP than HP at the moment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

are you have that aura hath perk , colman that now turn into HP , MP and SP+ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I have got the HP and MP perks (from the old white/black aura). The SP perk is not worth it IMO.
In addition, I have maxed the heavy HP before its level requirement was changed to lv350 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 28 2013, 18:26
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@nobody_xxx,

Thanks, I am slowly making way towards the Marathon - starting the 2nd page of the Arena in PFUDOR. I am concentrating on IW, playing the Arena occasionally for the credits.

@xcaliber9999,

Thanks, I think it's just a matter of going in and start hacking away correcting past mistakes, which for me is falling asleep in the middle of the game. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Eternal Darkness isn't open for me yet, is it very hard?
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You are doing really well, much better than I was at your level. As nobody_xxx said, it's just really tedious.
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