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post Sep 26 2013, 06:22
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@etothex thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) i'll look better weapon slowly. i only got 47k C now.
but i don't think i can to change to heavy now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

i don't have AP for that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) and my heavy set not really good compare my light set
my full set of shade also increase attack damage. and after i look around in inventory my heavy unable to beat it

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post Sep 26 2013, 06:26
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erwtsnert: Hold down the numpad key. Press down another key when monster is mostly depleted of health. rinse and repeat.

nobody_xxx: I know the yt video, but nobody clears things faster with 1h than 2h. Even if you do 1#/s with 1h, you'll also be doing 1#/s with 2h. I mean, otherwise 1h would have been immensely popular among europeans before 0.76.i, not the joke it was. (And I am an from Europe myself tbh)

Well, not like it is all or even mostly ping though. Otherwise, 5 other top-tier people would easily surpass him even from outside europe and there wouldn't be such a ML Bestiary dominance.
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post Sep 26 2013, 06:52
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QUOTE(TheEden @ Sep 25 2013, 15:11) *

Because I didn't know about this thread till yesterday and about WTS till 4 hours ago.
Is there a problem about it? As long as I start to see better equipments I'll probably start to interest about WTS too. Why being so harsh?


Sorry if it seemed harsh to you but I have merely pointed out your interaction with other players will usually be no more than this (posts being exchanged) in the Ask the Experts thread. If you have perused through WTS already, you should know by now the level of interaction will be much less than what goes on here. I had assumed that you were already aware of the WTS, and that the Bazaar had only worthless junk (mostly) but that you were naively thinking that you can continue to play at a higher level depending solely on your drops. I mean you are at Lv120 - tip of the hat to you for getting to Lv120 depending solely on your own drops, I only got to Lv80 before acknowledging the futility of it.

Don't forget, HentaiVerse is not only a game, it's bloody effing credit sink. If you can maintain your autonomy, it won't be much of a credit pit would it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 26 2013, 07:14
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QUOTE(Lement @ Sep 26 2013, 12:26) *

erwtsnert: Hold down the numpad key. Press down another key when monster is mostly depleted of health. rinse and repeat.

nobody_xxx: I know the yt video, but nobody clears things faster with 1h than 2h. Even if you do 1#/s with 1h, you'll also be doing 1#/s with 2h. I mean, otherwise 1h would have been immensely popular among europeans before 0.76.i, not the joke it was. (And I am an from Europe myself tbh)

Well, not like it is all or even mostly ping though. Otherwise, 5 other top-tier people would easily surpass him even from outside europe and there wouldn't be such a ML Bestiary dominance.

i mean 1x turns 1H compare with average turns 2H turns , lement (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Sep 26 2013, 07:27
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Sep 26 2013, 06:52) *

I had assumed that you were already aware of the WTS, and that the Bazaar had only worthless junk (mostly) but that you were naively thinking that you can continue to play at a higher level depending solely on your drops. I mean you are at Lv120 - tip of the hat to you for getting to Lv120 depending solely on your own drops, I only got to Lv80 before acknowledging the futility of it.

Don't forget, HentaiVerse is not only a game, it's bloody effing credit sink. If you can maintain your autonomy, it won't be much of a credit pit would it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I have never bought a single piece of equipment on WTS, relying strictly on what has dropped for me plus maybe 10 pieces tops off the bazaar. It can be done.

I've also never bought a single piece of Hath (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Sep 26 2013, 07:40
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QUOTE(Klauser57 @ Sep 25 2013, 20:40) *

Is Domino Strike a latent ability, cuz I don't see this skill.
And I don't see "backstab & frenzied" anywhere.Tried some Spirit Stance while using NT but it was really too weak and useless.

Right now in the grindfest I only go down after my 8 heroic potions are down and it's fairly fast even in nintendo mode thanks to Skyward Skies (even though it's limited to 5 monsters).

I mean, if you don't switch to other variant if melee style, you missed out agreat deal of it. 2h highlight is in domino strike, and it's on since the get go. Hitting 4 mobs above and 4 mobs below your original target is nothing short of awesome. Backstab and frenzied blow is the highlight of DW. My base damage is only shy above 2k, but when using backstab, it goes into 60k to 80k. Maintaining spirit stance is the highlight of 1H. Your proficiencies must be shockingly low to not perceive the awesomeness of spirit stance. Your damage, and other crucial abilities won't develop if you stick with Niten all the times.

Play other style, and after some while, your Niten even get better than it was.
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post Sep 26 2013, 07:46
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Four big auctions this weekend, and I only have enough credit for one bid war. I started gazing at my credit card.


why you don't run H@H? you can get enough hath (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Sep 26 2013, 08:21
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QUOTE(chess guy 24 @ Sep 26 2013, 04:37) *

At what level of prof does divine and forbidden magics start becoming a feasable build. So far with level 223 at 10 prof for both I can't pass anything above hard and even that is a challenge?

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just stick with your previous equip set.
or grind your mage prof now and learn to become mage now
or wait until you 300+ so you can cast imperil with 0 CD
btw, melee also not bad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
if you can buy good equipment, no matter what you want to be, it's still great and awesome.

i also want to try mage but i wait until 300+ because become warrior at low lvl will be more save and easier compare to mage.
mage become really great at high lvl.(of course you will need a lot C to buy decent equip for mage. Without good equip, mage can died quickly on PFUDOR).

even i died on FSP RoB PFUDOR few days ago. because i'm to hasty and not carefull enough. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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post Sep 26 2013, 09:02
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QUOTE(Cashino @ Sep 25 2013, 22:27) *

I have never bought a single piece of equipment on WTS, relying strictly on what has dropped for me plus maybe 10 pieces tops off the bazaar. It can be done.

I've also never bought a single piece of Hath (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


I am sure it can be done but it would be at a slow snail's pace because all that I could play at Lv80 was mostly normal, Nightmare and Hell were next to impossible. I am very impatient, I was ready to quit before discovering WTS and Wolfgirl's free shop.

What was it like in '08, was the Bazaar always this bad? Was it always 500% markup from buying to selling price? I could understand in the present day, global manufacturing to consumer process demands such markup but HV setting would be more in line with the Medieval Europe. If TenB bought a sword from warrior A then promptly sold it to Warrior B at 5 times the price, he would have been tarred and feathered before being quartered. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 26 2013, 09:09
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actually i also not patient type (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Sep 26 2013, 09:47
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zen_zen: Used to be much worse prices, at 10x markup. However, you used to be able to find low-level equips such as legendary demonic estocs from bazaar pre-0.7(very rarely, dumped by a stupid newbie), partly due the reason that they would require hundreds of IWBTH IWs to get up to player's level.

clarkiest: Domino range is 7 now, for a while, not 9. I've heard niten being compared to DW with AoE.

nobody_xxx: I know that you're trying to illustrate ping difference, it just may leave the illusion that 1H was anything more than "so slow I'm sleeping" style.
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post Sep 26 2013, 13:14
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assuming I play on low difficulties, what is faster in arenas: light+2h or power+1h+unlimited spirit stance?

Also: in your opinion what is the best elemental spike (as debuff).
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post Sep 26 2013, 13:26
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on normal 2H will be fastest. because domindo strike can hit up to 7 enemy at once.

about elemental spike, it's up to you to decide but dragon element is fire so maybe fire not really bad.
btw, you don't really need elemental spike if your weapon is ethereal.
if you got elemental weapon then you'll need spike. because it's also add damage up to 25%
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post Sep 26 2013, 13:55
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QUOTE(Lement @ Sep 26 2013, 09:47) *
Domino range is 7 now, for a while, not 9. I've heard niten being compared to DW with AoE.

Must be some brainfart there. I stand corrected.

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I can't. I don't live within google cable's coverage. I don't have durable computer.

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assuming I play on low difficulties, what is faster in arenas: light+2h or power+1h+unlimited spirit stance?
Also: in your opinion what is the best elemental spike (as debuff).

I don't believe you can maintain spirit stance just yet. Usually, level-proficiency gap is quite big at your level. The fastest style for melee, has always been 2H. Some exception might apply, though.

Best debuff? Wind. They'll miss their attack sometimes because of it.
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post Sep 26 2013, 14:48
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Rather than light 2H or power 1H, go Power 2H with a scythe/longsword. That's always been the standard setup for blazing through lower difficulties.
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post Sep 26 2013, 16:05
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Ok so I'll give up my Niten.I only have a Superior Katana of Slaughter.Should I use an other type of 2h weapon?
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post Sep 26 2013, 16:09
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low difficulty > new longsword or old scythe (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

higher difficulty but slower > mace ( more safer ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


higher difficulty fastest > estoc ( this is not your playground yet ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Sep 26 2013, 16:14
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QUOTE(Klauser57 @ Sep 26 2013, 16:05) *

Ok so I'll give up my Niten.I only have a Superior Katana of Slaughter.Should I use an other type of 2h weapon?


Yes, Katana is purely in the game for Niten, if you're giving up on it I suggest what Nobody said.
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post Sep 26 2013, 16:16
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I play the Arena on Hell or Nintendo but for the Grindfest I go in IWBTH mode (hanging on till my potions are out) cuz the Ponies always get me below 80 and Nintendo mode or Hell don't give shit then.

Is a Superior Estoc of Slaughter really better than a Superior Katana of Slaughter or am I in the obligation of buying a weapon to a real player? (I've never done it).
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post Sep 26 2013, 16:20
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I'd say for nintendo and up Estoc is better than using a katana on its own. But ey, almost everything is better than just a katana, its stats are pretty bad compared to the new longsword, estocs and maces.

On your level though, the monsters still don't have a huge amount of mitigation, so you can still afford to mace or katana on almost every difficulty.

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