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2H is purely for clearing big waves of enemies, but for RoB it barely makes a difference.

yup i agree (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
i can clear 5 wave enemy really fast with 2H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

well for RoB, it's just to test my speed clear it with 2H set.

I can not wait to try ether thief.If i'm correct, It'll complete the flaw in my current style now.

This post has been edited by zanky: Sep 24 2013, 11:41

you should use DW or even 1H for RoB ( except you using estoc with very high damage ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
even with that + full set slaughter , DW or even 1H is more faster for RoB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

2H suck now for fight monster with alot of HP coz great cleave get nerf alot in previous patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)


@erwts


upgrade it more to 20+ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Sep 24 2013, 11:40

Niten is not too bad for fighting groups of strong monsters either, just target the strongest one and everything will die pretty quickly.


I'd have already maxed if it didn't cost such a ridiculous amount of credits. I reeeeeaaaaally like my credits (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

shit i died (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
damn I to hasty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
2H really suck in term of survival
@nobody_xxx yeah
@e-stark my 1H prof still 1.12 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

But I'm using 2H+Light too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

But I'm using 2H+Light too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

nah , his equipment is not that good (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

stony and jenga is 2H light shade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


@erwts

4M is not that high for lvl 25 LoTD compare to old LoTD cost that need 9999999 to max it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Sep 24 2013, 11:46

@nobody_xxx so it's not just my guess alone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) (i feel 2H really suck for boss but really good to finish underling)
hei i already know if my equip suck. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
@erwtsnert that's what i do (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
@hino1314 don't worry 2H style is not bad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by zanky: Sep 24 2013, 11:51

nah , his equipment is not that good (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

stony and jenga is 2H light shade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
@erwts

Mine is bad too. Still using exq (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

there a reason why they call this is the era of light now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


heavy begins suck after T decide to remove burden reducing prof and godslayer burden reducing bonus (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)



@zanky


grind more ALOT (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Sep 24 2013, 11:58

well for PFUDOR RE 1 VS 5, I can clear it with 40 turn.
i'm not sure if it's fast enough

@nobody_xxx what grind? grindfest?

This post has been edited by zanky: Sep 24 2013, 11:59

i'm curious how did you hunt with 2H so you can say 2H is slow.

I cleared only 2 arenas on PFUDOR with Mace, and used 2 different strategies:
First time I used simple Hack-and-Slash, using Spirit Stance every time my OC > 240%... Second time I don't Stance at all, instead I use my OC for skills and for get penetrated armor on mobs... I think second have been a little faster than the former... anyway, both strategies slower than my 1H... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

well. . . . why not you tell me how much turn you need to beat on last round PFUDOR T&T with 1H.

i need 300-350 turn to beat it with my mace (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
and my mace not slaughter like yours

edit: forget about PFUDOR T&T.
it'll take much longer. but if you already do it then nevermind.
if you don't already go to clear PFUDOR T&T, the condition change to RoB PFUDOR FSP. i'll use 2H and you use 1H.

I cleared PFUDOR T&T only 1 time with 1H... and really don't remember how many turns i need on last round... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

I have already done T&T arena today... and probably will not be able to play tomorrow... so, only Wednesday or maybe only Thursday i will can play again... if you can wait... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (also, have only 3 blood tokens now... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) )


Anyway, in both these cases 2H "probably" will need less turns... but the thing with 1H is in the normal rounds of the arenas, 1H can Spirit Stance for almost the entire arena... in Spirit Stance i need only 3-6 hits to kill normal mobs (7-12 for tougher ones like Kodou Yuki) and without count the counter-attacks... Mace can hit more mobs per attack but i need much more hits to take down the opponents...

Like i said, at least for me, 1H faster than Mace... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Mine is bad too. Still using exq (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

My light set have two superior gears (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

My light set have two superior gears (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

i always though you are mages , colman (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


for mace , it better to use skill to faster clearing rounds ( from aurabolt and other mace user ) compare to using spirit stance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

spirit stance greatly benefit estoc to faster clearing mobs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Sep 24 2013, 12:06

My light set have two superior gears (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Lies! Unless light isn't your main set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif).

i always though you are mages , colman (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
for mace , it better to use skill to faster clearing rounds ( from aurabolt and other mace user ) compare to using spirit stance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

spirit stance greatly benefit for estoc for fast clear (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Spirit stance is only really for piercing weapons (with the PA proc). All other weapons benefit way more from weapon skills or spirit+weapon skills compared to SS'ing.

That reminds me, if you've got the choice between weapon skills or Orbital Friendship Cannon, which one would be better? Is it worth 250 overcharge?

Spirit stance is only really for piercing weapons (with the PA proc). All other weapons benefit way more from weapon skills or spirit+weapon skills compared to SS'ing.

That reminds me, if you've got the choice between weapon skills or Orbital Friendship Cannon, which one would be better? Is it worth 250 overcharge?

i don't have OFC since all my figurine always get shrine (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

OFC nerf alot compare to 0.75 so i don't think it worthy unless maybe you have that 25K hath perk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

My light set have two superior gears (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Fine Shade Breastplate of the Fleet

@e-stark yeah if 2H user just use only Spirit Stance, it's indeed slower.
I use rendering blow (to put PA on enemy) with stance so after that i can clear the rest quicker. but collect my OC to high enough indeed slow.

i think it's really hard to compare our style expecialy light and heavy user.
for times consumed, I already timed it yesterday i need 49 minutes to clear PFUDOR T&T.
and if you have time please try what you talking about. indeed i'm want to know various info. maybe that can help me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

for mace , it better to use skill to faster clearing rounds ( from aurabolt and other mace user ) compare to using spirit stance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

spirit stance greatly benefit estoc to faster clearing mobs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

agree and i do that to

This post has been edited by zanky: Sep 24 2013, 12:14

spirit stance greatly benefit estoc to faster clearing mobs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Yeah... today I have clear T&T in IWBTH for first time with Estoc & Light-Shade set... and it was easy... much more easy than Heavy... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

(however i think i still can't survive PFUDOR with Estoc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) )

@e-stark yeah if 2H user just use only Spirit Stance, it's indeed slower.

yeah... i see that... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

What i did was: Stance, use skills, deactivate... it's more faster than Stance and Hack-and-Slash... but Hack-and-Slash is so cool... that's because i prefer 1H or 2H Estoc... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

@e-Stark using estoc on PFUDOR (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) is really hard. my lvl and equip not enough for that now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

like you said

(however i think i still can't survive PFUDOR with Estoc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) )

that's why i use mace

It's not really that different even at higher level regardless of what gear you use;— You really need the stun proc to melee in PFUDOR; you don't need it to survive— it sole purpose is to put an end to the monster parrying madness... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)