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Sep 18 2013, 10:34
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zanky
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unbelivable => when i try clear RoB PFUDOR (i forgot the name, but have pink unicorn inside) 113 7 Invisible Pink Unicorn casts Perplexing Paradox, and hits you for 32805 void damage 113 6 You gain the effect Cloak of the Fallen. 113 5 Your Spark of Life restores you from the brink of defeat. 113 4 Void Strike hits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 1275 void damage. 113 3 Your offhand hits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 2164 void damage. 113 2 Void Strike hits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 2525 void damage. 113 1 You hit Invisible Pink Unicorn for 4088 void damage.
without weaken and SS, it easily overkill me. i'm glad i put SoL
This post has been edited by zanky: Sep 18 2013, 10:35
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Sep 18 2013, 11:00
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clarkiest
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Dude, wrong thread! Your level is high enough to offer sound advice, but this kind of post in this thread is like coming from overly spoiled child.
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Sep 18 2013, 11:11
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zanky
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i often post my progress in this threats. not only advice also when i do something wrong and error. so other who don't know yet can know and don't make same mistake like i do.
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Sep 18 2013, 11:15
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zen_zen
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QUOTE(zanky @ Sep 18 2013, 02:11)  i often post my progress in this threats. not only advice also when i do something wrong and error. so other who don't know yet can know and don't make same mistake like i do.
Did you win or did you die?
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Sep 18 2013, 14:15
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clarkiest
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as requested, this is my stat, PFUDOR is tough with this. 
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Sep 18 2013, 17:20
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erwtsnert
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Sep 18 2013, 14:15)  as requested, this is my stat, PFUDOR is tough with this.  Being able to do PFUDOR at your level is pretty impressive.
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Sep 18 2013, 17:23
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dragonandon
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Well I am having a hell of a time with PFUDOR. Assuming I don't have a billion unspent XP; what's a generally agreed investment to help specifically with this?
Spark of Life has been getting me through single to 20 round fights, but that's with half my potion slots being spirit potions. I know Spirit Shield is comparable, and might have a precise gain over Spark at some level; but I see so many potential OHKs on me that I'm sure sticking with Spark is better.
I tried casting support spells from scrolls aren't really helping, they don't seem to share the perks from the support spell abilities; having to cast them every 20 turns, and there's no Heartseeker scroll. This seems to be leading me back towards the advice I got to take Innate Arcana. But since I can only afford one, and I'm not sure if getting the 25% Health/Mana/Spirit hath perks would be any better.
Or should I just go back down to IWBTH or Battletoads and not try to beat the new extreme hard mode until I get that out of the way for everything?
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Sep 18 2013, 17:28
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erwtsnert
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QUOTE(dragonandon @ Sep 18 2013, 17:23)  Well I am having a hell of a time with PFUDOR. Assuming I don't have a billion unspent XP; what's a generally agreed investment to help specifically with this?
Spark of Life has been getting me through single to 20 round fights, but that's with half my potion slots being spirit potions. I know Spirit Shield is comparable, and might have a precise gain over Spark at some level; but I see so many potential OHKs on me that I'm sure sticking with Spark is better.
I tried casting support spells from scrolls aren't really helping, they don't seem to share the perks from the support spell abilities; having to cast them every 20 turns, and there's no Heartseeker scroll. This seems to be leading me back towards the advice I got to take Innate Arcana. But since I can only afford one, and I'm not sure if getting the 25% Health/Mana/Spirit hath perks would be any better.
Or should I just go back down to IWBTH or Battletoads and not try to beat the new extreme hard mode until I get that out of the way for everything?
Best thing you can do is not to just use 1 of the 2, just use ALL of the buffs. It really helps, mana costs go a bit up but eh. Atleast PFUDOR will be easier. Remember to spread out your attributes, don't go too far ahead in one. Most of your ability to do high difficulties rely purely on your equipment however. If you have some credits lying around, take a look at some shops or auctions and buy yourself some good gear, assuming you don't already run with a full mag/leg set. Using a mace might help out aswell, at the cost of doing less damage. Best is still to stick with IWBTH or BT if you have a hard time with PFUDOR though. One thing PFUDOR is still good for even if it's hard to clear, is when you want EXP and have 80+ stamina. This post has been edited by erwtsnert: Sep 18 2013, 17:30
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Sep 18 2013, 17:35
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Pillowgirl
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QUOTE(dragonandon @ Sep 19 2013, 01:23)  Well I am having a hell of a time with PFUDOR. Assuming I don't have a billion unspent XP; what's a generally agreed investment to help specifically with this?
Spark of Life has been getting me through single to 20 round fights, but that's with half my potion slots being spirit potions. I know Spirit Shield is comparable, and might have a precise gain over Spark at some level; but I see so many potential OHKs on me that I'm sure sticking with Spark is better.
I tried casting support spells from scrolls aren't really helping, they don't seem to share the perks from the support spell abilities; having to cast them every 20 turns, and there's no Heartseeker scroll. This seems to be leading me back towards the advice I got to take Innate Arcana. But since I can only afford one, and I'm not sure if getting the 25% Health/Mana/Spirit hath perks would be any better.
Or should I just go back down to IWBTH or Battletoads and not try to beat the new extreme hard mode until I get that out of the way for everything?
Get higher pmi/evade/block/parry, and level up more. I can do a 20 round pfudor arena without using any pots and i'm a DW/leather.
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Sep 18 2013, 17:38
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clarkiest
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Sep 18 2013, 17:20)  Being able to do PFUDOR at your level is pretty impressive.
Oh, I posted the stat because I was seeking advice from Peroona. I send my quips through PM, and since PM doesn't support attachment, I posted it here, who know additional advice could be got. Beside, I was refering PFUDOR in early arena and hourlies as in this post. There's no way I could survive 20 rounds of PFUDOR!
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Sep 19 2013, 01:23
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Goatse
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how much is the drop rate of token if i took all the tokenizer perks ?
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Sep 19 2013, 02:04
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Yuuki17
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Loot Drop Rolls0.8% This post has been edited by Yuuki17: Sep 19 2013, 02:05
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Sep 19 2013, 05:48
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zanky
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QUOTE(dragonandon @ Sep 18 2013, 22:23)  Well I am having a hell of a time with PFUDOR. Assuming I don't have a billion unspent XP; what's a generally agreed investment to help specifically with this?
Spark of Life has been getting me through single to 20 round fights, but that's with half my potion slots being spirit potions. I know Spirit Shield is comparable, and might have a precise gain over Spark at some level; but I see so many potential OHKs on me that I'm sure sticking with Spark is better.
I tried casting support spells from scrolls aren't really helping, they don't seem to share the perks from the support spell abilities; having to cast them every 20 turns, and there's no Heartseeker scroll. This seems to be leading me back towards the advice I got to take Innate Arcana. But since I can only afford one, and I'm not sure if getting the 25% Health/Mana/Spirit hath perks would be any better.
Or should I just go back down to IWBTH or Battletoads and not try to beat the new extreme hard mode until I get that out of the way for everything?
the change to win higher defficulty not only depend on ability and hath perk alone. it's also depend on our own skill. Just, training your own skill with various methods so you know which good killing methods you got. with my lvl and my current equipment, it's actually really hard if i don't go all out. I must think which is better time to use my skill, my depre, spirit stance, etc. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) like I already said(issue M2), beating high difficulty actually not really hard if you know how to play it. i also don't invest any hath perk until now. and all my equipment also non forge and got no potency.I also never use scroll. so if i put my guard down and slack a little, the change i died really high. like yesterday. I died on RE PFUDOR 1 VS 10. This post has been edited by zanky: Sep 19 2013, 05:48
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Sep 19 2013, 07:03
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Sep 18 2013, 22:38)  Oh, I posted the stat because I was seeking advice from Peroona. I send my quips through PM, and since PM doesn't support attachment, I posted it here, who know additional advice could be got. Beside, I was refering PFUDOR in early arena and hourlies as in this post. There's no way I could survive 20 rounds of PFUDOR! are you have SS (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) if not , better just lvl up clark (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) upgrade your gear too (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Sep 19 2013, 07:33
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clarkiest
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Do I have spirit shield? Nope! Haven't reached lvl 200+ yet.
Upgrade my gears? I don't really have gears that's upgrade worthy, donate, anyone?
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Sep 19 2013, 07:57
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zanky
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Sep 19 2013, 12:33)  Do I have spirit shield? Nope! Haven't reached lvl 200+ yet.
Upgrade my gears? I don't really have gears that's upgrade worthy, donate, anyone?
well (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) just keep increase your own lvl(i mean skill) so you can find a way to quickly kill enemy, until you got some worthy equipment to upgrade. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) I unable to do IW because i only got 1 ethereal mace. and that mace suck. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I can't survive in IWTB and above if not using mace.(never try use DW) This post has been edited by zanky: Sep 19 2013, 07:58
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Sep 19 2013, 08:39
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dragonandon
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So to sum up; to play on the new level; I should generally be better in every possible regard. Because if I don't have a high attack immunity; when everything swings at me I'll die. If I don't have extremely good Mitigation when hit; I'll die, If I don't kill the monsters fast enough; I'll die, and if I don't min-max correctly all of that is more likely to happen? Because this new difficulty wasn't made to moderately improve the drop rates and leveling for players that don't really know what they're doing; it was designed for players 300+ with all perfectly leveled legendary equipment, top tier abilities, and generally a good idea of what they were doing?
That's not sarcasm by the way. I'm just verbalizing this so as to come to terms with how substandard or at least below peak I've been at this game. I mean I've never seen a Legendary piece of equipment, and I'm excited when I see Exquisite ones drop. Which I guess is now, relatively, Superior equipment. So I clearly have a ways to go. Thanks all.
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Sep 19 2013, 08:52
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Slobber
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Exquisites are good enough so long as you know what you're doing.
The game was designed for higher difficulty when you're higher level (unless you're a masochist, have too much time, have a sugar daddy, or all of the above, in which case you could level like a madman killing things you wouldn't be able to kill otherwise). I remember when I was level 200-270 I rarely went into IWBTH. Most of my time was spent in Nintendo/BT.
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Sep 19 2013, 09:04
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zanky
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QUOTE(dragonandon @ Sep 19 2013, 13:39)  So to sum up; to play on the new level; I should generally be better in every possible regard. Because if I don't have a high attack immunity; when everything swings at me I'll die. If I don't have extremely good Mitigation when hit; I'll die, If I don't kill the monsters fast enough; I'll die, and if I don't min-max correctly all of that is more likely to happen? Because this new difficulty wasn't made to moderately improve the drop rates and leveling for players that don't really know what they're doing; it was designed for players 300+ with all perfectly leveled legendary equipment, top tier abilities, and generally a good idea of what they were doing?
That's not sarcasm by the way. I'm just verbalizing this so as to come to terms with how substandard or at least below peak I've been at this game. I mean I've never seen a Legendary piece of equipment, and I'm excited when I see Exquisite ones drop. Which I guess is now, relatively, Superior equipment. So I clearly have a ways to go. Thanks all.
well actually i can beat all arena on PFUDOR excluding marathon(because it's pain in the ass) i figure it out how to use my style around lvl 240. like Slobber say's QUOTE you know what you're doing QUOTE(zanky @ Sep 19 2013, 14:26)  i'm sleepy and do PFUDOR T&T this is what i got when i awake.
QUOTE You have been defeated!
Arena challenge failed! appear!! this also a few reason why i must go all out when PFUDOR. damn it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) This post has been edited by zanky: Sep 19 2013, 09:29
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