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post Sep 17 2013, 14:38
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QUOTE(zanky @ Sep 17 2013, 18:48) *

damn the rule about what i want to know it's already on The Twelve Commandments. i need google for know all of it with detailed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
but look at this https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=146839
is it allowed?

@nobody_xxx so that's why you ignored me when i ask the address for the web you talk about (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) tell it to me first and expain will ya! i often forgeting thing

your english is better than you indo , you know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

i hardly understand what you saying in indo (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

gunakan bahasa indo dengan baik dan benar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


jgn pakai bahasa lokal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

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post Sep 17 2013, 14:52
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cocote!!!!!

i don't understand what you're talking about
please say it on english (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 17 2013, 15:29
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QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Sep 17 2013, 14:25) *

clarkiest > Dunno really, let's say 8-10 hits. Of course the Koudo Yuki or things like that needs a lot more.

Neat!

Melee? Spirit Stance? How good is your quips?
If your equipments is still at exquisites (or even sups), that mean my level's just inadequate.

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post Sep 17 2013, 15:35
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Niten and no, I was just looking at it with selfbuff (heartseeker and such).
With Stance it goes down to 4-5 hits mostly.

You can see my stuff in my sign.
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post Sep 17 2013, 17:04
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Sep 17 2013, 09:59) *

Level 250+ is the proper for high difficulty IW?
Hmmm, that's a long waiting time. I don't think I can play without a void weapon lately without stressing myself.

for common mobs, how many hit you give to each of them before it died?
Playing PFUDOR on first arena show me I need to hit them 40 times before it yield. I was using rapier on 1H/heavy. I was also accidentally playing PFUDOR on hourly with my DW. Against 7 mobs, I died once, and drag the round until 110 turns before I win. Weak enough?


First round is usually a bit longer, but most rounds are below 20 turns up until the 8-10 round ones. I usually use Skyward Sword once a round and just whack them to death.
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post Sep 17 2013, 17:07
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You don't stance erwtsnert ?
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post Sep 17 2013, 17:11
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QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Sep 17 2013, 17:07) *

You don't stance erwtsnert ?


Depends, on easier difficulties I spirit stance. I usually Skyward Sword to get PA on higher difficulties. I stance+Skyward Sword at times the game gives me a bunch of tough enemies, on schoolgirls tough, I always Spirit Stance+Skyward sowrd.

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post Sep 17 2013, 17:37
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OK I'm no mage, can someone confirm whether this staff is useful or not :

Exquisite Ethereal Oak Staff of Heimdall

Exquisite Oak Staff of Heimdall

Exquisite Ethereal Katalox Staff of Focus

Thanks ! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

And this too :

Exqusite Shielding Plate Helmet of Warding

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post Sep 17 2013, 18:00
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QUOTE(Frostbite @ Sep 18 2013, 01:37) *

Everything is noob gear or salvage fodder.
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post Sep 17 2013, 19:21
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QUOTE(Frostbite @ Sep 17 2013, 11:37) *


PM me.
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post Sep 17 2013, 22:11
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QUOTE(Solarhawk @ Sep 16 2013, 00:48) *

Just got this Exquisite Fiery Redwood Staff of Surtr and... is this actually a decent staff? I mean, the prefix and suffix match, and almost Exmax MDB, higher than wiki max magic crit chance, and moderate (not great but not rock bottom) rolls for fire damage, wis, and int. Did something remotely valuable actually drop for me? o_O

Edit: reason I'm asking is because I'm not a mage, so I'm not really savvy on everything that mages truly look for, and how much, but I've tried to pay attention about their equipment as best as I can for not experiencing it myself.


Ok, so anyone care to chime in other than Zanky? I know the prefix and suffix match. That doesn't help me determine whether it's -actually- useful or worth anything. Troll rolls can still botch the value, and I don't mage so while I -think- it's decent, I'd like some confirmation and an approximate value.
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post Sep 17 2013, 22:33
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Sep 17 2013, 04:59) *

Level 250+ is the proper for high difficulty IW?
Hmmm, that's a long waiting time. I don't think I can play without a void weapon lately without stressing myself.

for common mobs, how many hit you give to each of them before it died?
Playing PFUDOR on first arena show me I need to hit them 40 times before it yield. I was using rapier on 1H/heavy. I was also accidentally playing PFUDOR on hourly with my DW. Against 7 mobs, I died once, and drag the round until 110 turns before I win. Weak enough?

It's really dependent by the mobs... and parries/evades...

But I just checked now... in PFUDOR with 1H (that crappy rapier of balance and equips i posted before) and Heartseeker... it took ~7-11 hits each mob... ~3-6 in Spirit Stance... in tougher monsters like Kodou Yuki, Eila, Aasta etc. these numbers practically doubles...
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post Sep 17 2013, 22:43
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I've been doing a few IW on low levels and with DW light and besides taking a long time I am doing fine and almost never in danger of death. What is the fastest way to do IW? I am thinking of using 2H heavy or light(light prof still being trained) or going Niten heavy...anyone have an opinion?
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post Sep 17 2013, 22:58
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QUOTE(Solarhawk @ Sep 17 2013, 16:11) *

Ok, so anyone care to chime in other than Zanky? I know the prefix and suffix match. That doesn't help me determine whether it's -actually- useful or worth anything. Troll rolls can still botch the value, and I don't mage so while I -think- it's decent, I'd like some confirmation and an approximate value.




Go by the equip ranges and relative rarity (i.e. redwood is t1, not t3, so not amazing).


PABs are pretty meh, but MDB is exmax and EDB is good. ET sucks for redwood though that's usually not a consideration.


Don't salvage it, but good luck finding a buyer. It's probably worth 50k or more, it's a very decent fire stick. The problem being "decent" and "fire", respectively.
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post Sep 17 2013, 23:03
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Mages (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Estoc will rules in IWBTH IW (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

PFUDOR give same pxp mod ( from stony and irvine test ) , dunno tenb change it or not now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Just make sure you have more than 70 PMI and 5000 base damage for doing Mag IW , for leg IW just need abit higher ( you can use scroll of prot if your PMI is low ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 17 2013, 23:33
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For Two Hand what PMI should be ok ? I talking about Items +150 rounds on... maybe not IWTBH but Nightmare or Hell.
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post Sep 17 2013, 23:34
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QUOTE(Solarhawk @ Sep 18 2013, 05:11) *

Ok, so anyone care to chime in other than Zanky? I know the prefix and suffix match. That doesn't help me determine whether it's -actually- useful or worth anything. Troll rolls can still botch the value, and I don't mage so while I -think- it's decent, I'd like some confirmation and an approximate value.


Can you install the base stat script? you can check the rolls on this thing and what is deemed as Supmax, ExMax, Magmax, etc. After installing script, press 'w' to get base rolls, then press 'r' to pop up equipment wiki. It's really useful to check any equipment/armor.
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post Sep 17 2013, 23:38
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Sep 17 2013, 15:34) *

Can you install the base stat script? you can check the rolls on this thing and what is deemed as Supmax, ExMax, Magmax, etc. After installing script, press 'w' to get base rolls, then press 'r' to pop up equipment wiki. It's really useful to check any equipment/armor.

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- Hovering over equipment stats on the equipment popup and in the forge and lottery will now display the base (level 0) value for the stat.
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post Sep 17 2013, 23:49
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QUOTE(Treia @ Sep 17 2013, 13:58) *

Go by the equip ranges and relative rarity (i.e. redwood is t1, not t3, so not amazing).
PABs are pretty meh, but MDB is exmax and EDB is good. ET sucks for redwood though that's usually not a consideration.
Don't salvage it, but good luck finding a buyer. It's probably worth 50k or more, it's a very decent fire stick. The problem being "decent" and "fire", respectively.


Thanks! This kind of anecdotal input is the type I was looking for (not sarcasm). I'll definitely not salvage it, and thanks for the price guess. Like I said, I'm not a mage so I don't have experience on that side. How it all plays together is nice.

Treesloth, you can just hover your mouse over the item stats now, as stated in the 0.77 patch release notes. I already compared the stats to the equipment ranges page, but was looking for this type of input. (Thank you though) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 17 2013, 23:54
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QUOTE(Solarhawk @ Sep 18 2013, 06:49) *

Treesloth, you can just hover your mouse over the item stats now, as stated in the 0.77 patch release notes. I already compared the stats to the equipment ranges page, but was looking for this type of input. (Thank you though) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


and @Yuki

Without the script though, how do you compare two equipments side by side???? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

The top half of the staff is nice, but the prof and int and wis are too low. Salvage material?
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