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post Dec 1 2010, 04:28
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QUOTE(Kiljaeden @ Dec 1 2010, 06:24) *

How does X-attack make the game more boring than normal attack? isn't it just the same thing but with less delay?

It made the game too fucking easy, the arena you might find difficult and challenging will suddenly change into a yawn inducing mindless clickfest, rising the difficulty made the game longer, not harder (in the sense that its feel challenging), made it even more yawn inducing...

Also, the equipment's performance gap among each type will grow larger and larger as you leveling more, certain types of gears become junks and only few are viable, limiting creativity on how you choose equipment, and that reduce the games enjoyment.

The game, thus, turn into nothing but this.. (quoted from Ichy)

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1. Click it until it dies
2. sell loot
3. train LotD, Scravenger and Quartermaster
4. sell more loot.
5. train more


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post Dec 1 2010, 14:39
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Anyone can recommend a good weapon&equipment suffix for mage?

I have a gossamer cap of elementalist is that a good one?
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post Dec 1 2010, 14:58
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pretty much anything with elementalist should be good for your level, because you can't use any other kind of offensive spells yet.
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post Dec 1 2010, 15:30
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thx hyl and I have another question

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Which one do you think is better? I can't decide since the left one give a lot of accuracy

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post Dec 1 2010, 15:30
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mage gear is pretty standard...

gossamer or phase of elementalist for everyday hv...

focus staff if you find that your spells misses or get resisted too much, if not then it would be either a ebony of elementalist or ebony of destruction for everyday hv...
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post Dec 1 2010, 15:55
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Both staves are MEH. You should go pick some staves around lvl 60-100 from other users shops. It's better that way so that your weapon can grow with your level, so you don't need to keep swapping out equipment.
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post Dec 2 2010, 03:55
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As a dual wielder, how much int should I have? At the moment I am following the guideline of keeping my main 4 stats equal to my current level and dumping any extra leftover xp into wisdom. Also, do scrolls stack with their respective spell counterpart? I assume so since the effects are slightly different.
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post Dec 2 2010, 04:42
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QUOTE(ramenface @ Dec 2 2010, 08:55) *

As a dual wielder, how much int should I have?


I will answer this, since I believe no one will going to answer it.. and you know why? read on....

If you want to be successful in HV, you will want to go maging eventually.. a balance stats will help you when that time come.

Otherwise, well, just put EXP in it whenever you feels like it, don't ask exactly how much, it's a stupid question, and that's why hardly anyone want to answer this kind of question.

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Also, do scrolls stack with their respective spell counterpart? I assume so since the effects are slightly different.


Scrolls that gives 25% damage reduction do stack; technically, it's not really "stack" since it gives different effect from spell counterpart.

Scrolls that do the same thing as there spell counterpart (Life and Absorb scroll) do stack, in a sense that its give you 2 spells on top of each other and work one by one. (tested with Scroll of Absorption)

I'm not sure how Shadow veil from scroll + a regular one work together, however..

Haste from scrolls gives max Action Speed, no point casting a regular Haste on top of it.

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post Dec 2 2010, 12:42
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QUOTE(buktore @ Dec 2 2010, 02:42) *

Haste from scrolls gives max Action Speed, no point casting a regular Haste on top of it.
If you have enough level and supportive proficiency, don't forget that.
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post Dec 2 2010, 12:43
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some questions
how much holy benefit the curative spells? it's the holy rating or proficiency? (sry for question but search function in this forum is really fubar and is not addet to wiki)

weaken sometimes seems not enough, should i get sleep to neutralize miniboss? (with proficiency it will cost 11 with 4-5 rounds of duration totally stopping monster, while weaken cost 5 with 10 rounds but it not stops magic attacks)
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post Dec 2 2010, 12:51
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QUOTE(tribalspirit @ Dec 2 2010, 11:43) *

some questions
how much holy benefit the curative spells? it's the holy rating or proficiency? (sry for question but search function in this forum is really fubar and is not addet to wiki)

weaken sometimes seems not enough, should i get sleep to neutralize miniboss? (with proficiency it will cost 11 with 4-5 rounds of duration totally stopping monster, while weaken cost 5 with 10 rounds but it not stops magic attacks)


I am sure that cure is only effected by holy rating and not the divine profiency, but i don't know the actual percentage how much holy rating boosts cure (i know that cure used to heal 230+ for me when i was level 50 and that it heals now for 370+, but that's with a higher curative profiency as well).

Sleep is not that incredible usefull as it sounds. It costs more than twice the ammounts of mp than weaken (bigger waste if it misses or resisted)and last a few turns shorter. Also sleep is cancelled if the target is hit when sleeping (incase you are a spellcaster, niten or 2 handed sword user).

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post Dec 2 2010, 13:10
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Cure is affected by base HP, holy rating, and curative proficiency.
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post Dec 2 2010, 13:16
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Ooo, I didn't know base HP affected it
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post Dec 2 2010, 13:18
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I always thought that cure healed a certain % of your hp.
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post Dec 2 2010, 13:25
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QUOTE(hyl @ Dec 2 2010, 11:18) *

I always thought that cure healed a certain % of your hp.
Cure doesn't heal a certain %, but a range of %, and if you raise base HP what you think it happens to a certain % of base HP in terms of absolute points?
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post Dec 2 2010, 13:29
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Dec 2 2010, 17:42) *

If you have enough level and supportive proficiency, don't forget that.


What do you mean by this?

Action speed is capped at 200. (From Wiki)
Minimum Action Speed = 100
Haste from Scroll = +100

100 + 100 = 200 = Max Action Speed, No? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Dec 2 2010, 13:30
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so if i'm a melee is a total waste of AP if i try to increase my holy rating

meh i will use sleep it only for miniboss for keeping them busy while i get rid of little ones.. conting that every time i use on them both weaken and poison, with sleep it can use less MP

thens for the advice thet sleep dissipates if the monster hitten

both that advice need to be write on wiki
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post Dec 2 2010, 13:34
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QUOTE(buktore @ Dec 2 2010, 11:29) *

What do you mean by this?

Action speed is capped at 200. (From Wiki)
Minimum Action Speed = 100
Haste from Scroll = +100

100 + 100 = 200 = Max Action Speed, No? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
I misunderstood what you said (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
I wasn't thinking the opposite, when you have the spell active, and them use the scroll.


QUOTE(tribalspirit @ Dec 2 2010, 11:30) *

so if i'm a melee is a total waste of AP if i try to increase my holy rating

meh i will use sleep it only for miniboss for keeping them busy while i get rid of little ones.. conting that every time i use on them both weaken and poison, with sleep it can use less MP

thens for the advice thet sleep dissipates if the monster hitten

both that advice need to be write on wiki
Weaken is a lot better. In fact the only use I have for sleep is for battletoad trio and tree.
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post Dec 2 2010, 13:36
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holy rating boost cure spells so it is not a waste but it is one of those things where you only allocate AP to it when you have some to spare...
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post Dec 2 2010, 13:52
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I'm actually really curious about how SV from scroll and spell work together. Is it multiplicative, just simply add the two together or just override one another? it's seem really hard to test, though, else somebody would test that already.

I remember reading some talk about it in some old thread, and there's seem to be no definite answer, just speculation.

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You like Sleep? I never use it before, but if you like sleep, try Confuse out once LV.60, I try it out yesterday, that shit is funny. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)



I'm just joking, BTW.
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