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post Sep 11 2013, 02:36
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What was I gonna ask... Oh,

To people who ran arena at various difficulty,
I want to ask about credit drop rate of lv150~200 arena.

How much difference are there between nightmare and nintendo/battletoads?

I usually run arena at nightmare level, because I dont pay much attention to screen and cant use stamina below 80. Is it worth the effort? I am very short on credit, so I want to know if it is better to run several at low difficulty or run one at high difficulty.
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post Sep 11 2013, 03:05
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QUOTE(walkleft @ Sep 11 2013, 10:36) *

What was I gonna ask... Oh,

To people who ran arena at various difficulty,
I want to ask about credit drop rate of lv150~200 arena.

How much difference are there between nightmare and nintendo/battletoads?

I usually run arena at nightmare level, because I dont pay much attention to screen and cant use stamina below 80. Is it worth the effort? I am very short on credit, so I want to know if it is better to run several at low difficulty or run one at high difficulty.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/difficulties#Challenge_Level

Figure it out since nobody knows the minimum credit drop or the random extra amount you get.
Playing at Hell looks best, the more damage you get the higher you can set it to kill tanky'er enemies.

IW is best done at minimum of Nintendo otherwise it's a waste of stamina.
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post Sep 11 2013, 05:49
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It seems Littlesweetloli didn't make it either or doesn't want to do it on Hell.


Plan was great - do all 0-100 lv arenas on IWTBH then move to 100-300 lv arenas... It was GOOD plan. And good plans always getting screwed. I probably can go on Hell on arenas up to New Wings but I don't want to. I clearing arenas level by level. If today I clear arena A on Normal, then tomorrow I gonna try it on Hard, the day after tomorrow, I'll try it on Nightmare. Don't ask why - It's my way of play.

fOck this shit, I still can't clear my weapon IW on hard T_T

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post Sep 11 2013, 05:57
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@nobody_xxx i see (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
still need some improvement on all aspect (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
although took a loot time for IWTB maraton, it's perfect ground to faster improvement on my lvl and prof (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

this my stat info after change to my belove club
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and for arena Attached ImageAttached Image

This is weapon i use.
DW: main hand: exquisite ethereal axe of illithid
main hand(optional1): exquisite ethereal club of slaughter
main hand(optional2):superior ethereal axe of slaughter
off hand: exquisite ethereal rapier of balance
off hand(optional): exquisite rapier of slaughter
2H: excuisite ethereal mace of illithid(i use this for highest difficulty)
excuisite ethereal longsword of slaughter(i use this for lowest difficulty)
superior estoc of illithid(i'm not use estoc now because i'll got a hard time to clear IWTB arena using estoc, i use it after i easily clear IWTB arena)
for nitten(i not use it now but not hurt to collect from now on)
superior katana of balance
magnificent artic wakizashi of slaughter
ANd this my armor
excuisite shade helmet of the shadowdancer
excuisite shade breastplate of the shadowdancer
excuisite shade gaunlets of the shadowdancer
excuisite legging of the fleet
magnificent cobalt shade boots of the fleet

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post Sep 11 2013, 06:02
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QUOTE(LittleSweetLoli @ Sep 11 2013, 10:49) *

Plan was great - do all 0-100 lv arenas on IWTBH then move to 100-300 lv arenas... It was GOOD plan. And good plans always getting screwed. I probably can go on Hell on arenas up to New Wings but I don't want to. I clearing arenas level by level. If today I clear arena A on Normal, then tomorrow I gonna try it on Hard, the day after tomorrow, I'll try it on Nightmare. Don't ask why - It's my way of play.

yes indeed it's good plan but use other plan, clear highest arena on highest difficulty first, then if still have some time,clear the rest.
I usually clear 1-3 highest arena on IWTB and clear leftover on normal(including maraton).
even it look like mess and not prety, but it's effective (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
QUOTE(LittleSweetLoli @ Sep 11 2013, 10:49) *

fOck this shit, I still can't clear my weapon IW on hard T_T

you still need increase your lvl. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

@nobody, n125
now i'll try to clear marathon on IWTB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
and try my new strategy too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)
i want to look on my lvl now i can survive (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) or (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

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post Sep 11 2013, 06:47
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QUOTE(etothex @ Sep 11 2013, 03:49) *

Q about spirit theft. It's based on the targeted mob's sp?
does duration increase w/ level or anything?

I'm getting 7 ticks w/ spirit theft


based on my observations, it is based on the targeted monster's current SP percentage and your base SP.

targeting a monster with 50% SP will give you max SP theft.

not sure about the duration though.

and SP theft works even if drain got resisted/evaded...
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post Sep 11 2013, 07:44
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fiuhh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
almost die from stupid mistake (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
i forgot to add battle item to my new equipment set and i go IWTB killzone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
i glad i can make it just with my old battleitem: 1greater SP, 2 greater HP, 5 greater MP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

edit:
@nobody, n125
now i still in the middle of clearing IWTB Eternal Darkness (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
and after trying focus a little, it really easy and i dont get troble again for mana.
thanks a lot for that info (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

edit again: i can pass wave 40 without single pot. damn (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (never try this way before).

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post Sep 11 2013, 07:56
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QUOTE(zanky @ Sep 11 2013, 13:44) *

fiuhh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
almost die from stupid mistake (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
i forgot to add battle item to my new equipment set and i go IWTB killzone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
i glad i can make it just with my old battleitem: 1greater SP, 2 greater HP, 5 greater MP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


wrong thread my friend...
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post Sep 11 2013, 08:14
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Sep 10 2013, 21:47) *

based on my observations, it is based on the targeted monster's current SP percentage and your base SP.

targeting a monster with 50% SP will give you max SP theft.

not sure about the duration though.

and SP theft works even if drain got resisted/evaded...

thanks. could some different levels see how many ticks of theft you get.
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post Sep 11 2013, 08:16
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what the hell!!!!! what those schoolgirl doing. It keep hit me with unbeliable amount of damage.it overkill me damn it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
altought i don't need single pot to go to wave 45, i just bring few spirit pot with me
my spirit pot will not last until final wave (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) so i run away.
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@n125 you right i need weaken or silent (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
but now, i know what i must do to clear maraton

@nobody_xxx yeah i think it's really wise if i clear IWTB maraton after i increase my base damage
it took me very long and so hard when i face schoolgirl

QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Sep 11 2013, 12:56) *

wrong thread my friend...

so where sould i post that? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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post Sep 11 2013, 08:22
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so where sould i post that? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=29703

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=37679
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post Sep 11 2013, 08:29
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Sep 11 2013, 13:22) *

thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Sep 11 2013, 09:13
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Sep 11 2013, 16:22) *

I don't see why you're pushing him there if he got advised here to try it out and then reported back with his findings for all of us to see and learn from it.

In fact seeing the titles of the other 2 threads is reason enough to dismiss them for asinine drivel in of itself.
I will always post here for my HV experiences and questions.

I learned that a lower level/equips/stats player then me is pretty able in doing IWBTH arenas up to the schoolgirls, i do the 2 schoolgirls + T&T arenas every day on normal and never expected to be able and clear them on IWBTH till he posted.

Although i'd still like to wait till i find a better weapon and pay someone to IW it for me, i hate slow progress because i can't kill faster.

For now i do Trio in 15-20 min on normal, first schoolgirl marathon in 25-30 min and the second marathon in 35 min.
I expect the last DwD arena i'll be able to clear in 40 min or less when i'm lvl 300 as i will hopefully have a permanent equipment/weapon set by then.

I also see everyone and their dog has maxed Pack Rat training...i only have 3/10.
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post Sep 11 2013, 09:44
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i told you don't do IWBTH marathons when your damage is so low (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)





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post Sep 11 2013, 09:51
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401 11 You gain 1000 Credits!
401 10 You gain 429715 EXP!
401 9 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Blood]
401 8 Arena Clear Bonus! [Superior Leather Boots of Dampening]
401 7 Skuld dropped [1354 Credits]
401 6 Yggdrasil dropped [Sapling]
401 5 You are Victorious!
401 4 Skuld has been defeated.
401 3 You hit Skuld for 3325 void damage.
401 2 You drain 5.1 MP from Skuld
401 1 Spirit Stance Exhausted

never know skuld drop C (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

@Pillowgirl thanks for those comment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
btw we just don't know the way yet.if we know a way to beat it,we can do it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I calculate i can clear IWTB ethernal darkness in my current lvl.
i'll try it tommorow.
about arena around TTT, I just clear it on IWTB when i got stamina over 80 or i get much free time.that's why i can quickly increase my lvl.if not for that, i'll just do it on normal
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post Sep 11 2013, 09:56
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Sep 11 2013, 14:44) *

@zanky

i told you don't do IWBTH marathons when your damage is so low (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


YADA!!!!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
i want to try it.
i want to know if my theory is wrong or not (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

well after i can clear it on IWTB just 1 time. i'll do in normal.
actually i also want to compare experienct i gain in highest marathon on IWTB and TTT IWTB, also time I took for it.
which is better.
If i don't try it myself, i'll never know (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
no venture no gain, nobody (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

now i just need to clear IWTB TTT in > 1 hour. but i gain 1 lvl from that(around 100M exp) with stamina > 79

if i clear normal TTT, i think i just need 10-15 minutes with my belove longswort

basically i just need 4 minute to clear 50 wave. i know because do it very much in normal on other arena.
but even if i just need 2 hour to clear all arena on normal, exp cumulative < 100M
that's why i choose clear IWTB TTT even it takes me > 1 hour

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clearing IWBTH marathons is not that hard , just tedious especially DwD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


clearing Legendary IWBTH IW is more harder (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 11 2013, 10:08
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is that so?
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urghhhh my stamina 79 now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
not worth to clear on IWTB anymore

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post Sep 11 2013, 10:10
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QUOTE(zanky @ Sep 10 2013, 23:16) *

what the hell!!!!! what those schoolgirl doing. It keep hit me with unbeliable amount of damage.it overkill me damn it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
altought i don't need single pot to go to wave 45, i just bring few spirit pot with me
my spirit pot will not last until final wave (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) so i run away.
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@n125 you right i need weaken or silent (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
but now, i know what i must do to clear maraton

@nobody_xxx yeah i think it's really wise if i clear IWTB maraton after i increase my base damage
it took me very long and so hard when i face schoolgirl
so where sould i post that? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


Yes; Weaken/Silence are for making sure that the schoolgirl doesn't drain your SP by triggering Spirit Shield or Spark of Life while you spend time recovering MP with Focus. Preferably Weaken alone will be enough to prevent SP loss because compared to Silence, it's cheaper to cast and has a longer duration.

But it's good to see that Focus is working out for you.
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post Sep 11 2013, 10:17
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QUOTE(n125 @ Sep 11 2013, 15:10) *

Yes; Weaken/Silence are for making sure that the schoolgirl doesn't drain your SP by triggering Spirit Shield or Spark of Life while you spend time recovering MP with Focus. Preferably Weaken alone will be enough to prevent SP loss because compared to Silence, it's cheaper to cast and has a longer duration.

But it's good to see that Focus is working out for you.


yup it work well. i wonder why i never try this option. even worse is i don't remember to use focus (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
maybe if i just use focus(+ weaken) i just need bring 3 spirit pot and 3 mana pot to clear it.
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