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Thanks to all for the Estoc advice, esp. to ethotex for his detailed account. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I now have to figure out my plate vs. power combos and try em out. Also a pretty good Shade set too, not as good as Starrk's, but then who does. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

@ethotex what damage do you get with your 66-72 PMI sets? my best-looking mixed set now produces 69.4 PMI with 4931 damage, and 12.7 block thrown in too.

thanks again.

4800+ (w/ protect and balance) but i can push 5200 /w slaughter +void shard or so. I need a better power/chest piece . Was thinking of bidding on that Power/slaughter armor you just picked up, but auctions are always at awkward times (and it was only a very slight upgrade) so meh. I've been gradually picking up some new pieces but it's kinda upsetting that i'm tossing aside pieces i've gotten good potencies on. Don't have much time or energy to IW my newer gear lately, or even finish all arenas on normal tbqh.

Is the evasion spell worth using if you don't have any other evasion?

Oh, and the last part is for newbies who might be reading as well. At 220, your gear is likely not garbage, unless you sold everything before your break.

Well..not sure if it's garbage or not but I never bothered to forge upgrade them since I played mage. After the patch I found out there's added cd in place which make rotating the spell impossible so I thought I would stop there.

4800+ (w/ protect and balance) but i can push 5200 /w slaughter +void shard or so. I need a better power/chest piece . Was thinking of bidding on that Power/slaughter armor you just picked up, but auctions are always at awkward times (and it was only a very slight upgrade) so meh. I've been gradually picking up some new pieces but it's kinda upsetting that i'm tossing aside pieces i've gotten good potencies on. Don't have much time or energy to IW my newer gear lately, or even finish all arenas on normal tbqh.

well...my experiments aren't doing so hot. so far, the only set that allows me to handle even a 5-mob cycle ok, let alone more, is my full plate...75pmi with only 4300 damage. all the other mixes have been really tough to manage, granted only a few arena tests, but having to cast cure all the time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I have to carefully check my ability slots to make sure I haven't screwed something up.

i was surprised at how cheap and easy I got that armor...I guess the relatively poor ADB scared everyone else away, plus there were 2 other similar pieces on auction at same time. it was a big improvement for me (I also cannot bear the incremental upgrades, it's a bad habit to fall into) I had never bought any power before, just used my drops. But I wanted to improve my set for 1H, which I have just learned recently is an awesome way to play.

Is the evasion spell worth using if you don't have any other evasion?

yes, but only when you need it. like if facing 4 guys you're fine with the buffs you got, don't use it. get deeper and 5 guys starts seeing your health go red a couple times, use it.


hahaha i thought i'd give light+estoc a whirl due to all that talk yesterday.

4600 attack, 60.9pmi, 44 evade, 29.5 parry hahaha nope. cast SV, 4 mobs a round, SoL/death in first 7 rounds twice. I'll stick to 2h heavy. (my light prof is mostly caught up)

@eramosat hmm that's . . . odd. what's your prof, accuracy specific mits, void sharded, attack speed, etc? post some screens

hahaha i thought i'd give light+estoc a whirl due to all that talk yesterday.

4600 attack, 60.9pmi, 44 evade, 29.5 parry hahaha nope. cast SV, 4 mobs a round, SoL/death in first 7 rounds twice. I'll stick to 2h heavy. (my light prof is mostly caught up)

Yeah, it's definitely not a style anyone can just pick up and play (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif). I'd say at minimum you need at least all magnificent gear with light forging on everything (and a nice ethereal estoc with at least 20 or so slaughters on it). Once you get your gear to a certain point it works great though, I prefer it to using my heavy set even, defensively it works better than full power for me and I don't lose the crit and damage I do when I add in plates. Anybody who plays this style has to invest into their set a good deal before it's playable though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) .

Yeah, it's definitely not a style anyone can just pick up and play (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif). I'd say at minimum you need at least all magnificent gear with light forging on everything (and a nice ethereal estoc with at least 20 or so slaughters on it). Once you get your gear to a certain point it works great though, I prefer it to using my heavy set even, defensively it works better than full power for me and I don't lose the crit and damage I do when I add in plates. Anybody who plays this style has to invest into their set a good deal before it's playable though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) .

it's just kinda annoying how hard it is to factor in evade. 44% + SV and down 11k health in a couple turns even though 2/4 were weakened. Of course it doesn't help that my hp pool /tanks are less. and no piercing mit, haven't seen that in a while so forgot about.

@eramosat hmm that's . . . odd. what's your prof, accuracy specific mits, void sharded, attack speed, etc? post some screens

2H and Heavy profs are max. Added 2 strikes to estoc, no other forges. Maybe I just need to get used to casting cure more?

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it's just kinda annoying how hard it is to factor in evade. 44% + SV and down 11k health in a couple turns even though 2/4 were weakened. Of course it doesn't help that my hp pool /tanks are less. and no piercing mit, haven't seen that in a while so forgot about.

I'm training my light prof w/ DW, is light better with 2h?

I'm training my light prof w/ DW, is light better with 2h?

Light is quite good with mace because of the stun proc, and will probably work with everything you throw at it. With Estoc, wait until you are maxed out on proficiencies and have a decent set of equipment. I'd say you do survive longer with 2H, clear speed should be a bit slower in the schoolgirl arena's.

This post has been edited by erwtsnert: Sep 1 2013, 23:38

it's just kinda annoying how hard it is to factor in evade. 44% + SV and down 11k health in a couple turns even though 2/4 were weakened. Of course it doesn't help that my hp pool /tanks are less. and no piercing mit, haven't seen that in a while so forgot about.

You also need decent pmi to go with the evade. For me, 66.4% PMI and 52% evade seems to work good enough (you are 50 levels lower than me so the magic number for each one is probably a bit lower). I have to throw in a cure now and then when it gets to 9-10 mobs but not very often (and mana isn't an issue). Anyway, I like the perks from using light armor better than heavy, you get lowered mana cost, additional mp tank, higher crit (especially with shadowdancer), and much better action speed. The high evade and resist works much better on schoolgirl arenas too as their mp/sp attacks hardly ever connect so your spirit drain isn't nearly as high as heavy. I still think light could use an additional boost in the offense category somehow though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .

This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Sep 1 2013, 23:48

2H and Heavy profs are max. Added 2 strikes to estoc, no other forges. Maybe I just need to get used to casting cure more?

No, cure means something's wrong. You shouldn't need to cure except when youre gauging when to add SV and when to stop straight stancing through stuff. it's gotta be your accuracy. you're probably being avoided too much which gives mobs time to unleash big attacks on you. Try a void shard and see if that solves everything. After that, get some power/balance. For the record, i generally do the 1st page unsharded, but don't let my %hit fall below like 144. Prefer 160+ unsharded. Try 71 or 72% pmi as well. I go with my shield legs (7.7 block) for anything under 70. Losing that bit of avoid means needs more PMI for full power.

You also need decent pmi to go with the evade. For me, 66.4% PMI and 52% evade seems to work good enough (you are 50 levels lower than me so the magic number for each one is probably a bit lower). I have to throw in a cure now and then when it gets to 9-10 mobs but not very often (and mana isn't an issue). Anyway, I like the perks from using light armor better than heavy, you get lowered mana cost, additional mp tank, higher crit (especially with shadowdancer), and much better action speed. The high evade and resist works much better on schoolgirl arenas too as their mp/sp attacks hardly ever connect so your spirit drain isn't nearly as high as heavy. I still think light could use an additional boost in the offense category somehow though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .

yeah i wish i was willing to cough up the $$ for AP so i could fill heavy + light (heavy is so ridiculously expensive AP-wise --ap to fill heavy can fill light + 1h + dw). Light with DW works really well; i have no problems with tt&T. The +16 parry helps i guess. Mana cost reduction over heavy is really nice, but not like i'll ever run out of pots, and i don't do anything that ever drains my in battle-pots enough to worry about it. My heavy set actually has higher crit than my light (2 SD vs 2 or 3 power/balance)

so i just did new wings 75 rounds with this (others are all done):

no shards, forgot to put on extra strike.
it was kinda wonky in beginning. 4 mobs rounds cured like 3 times, but w/ 5+ mobs used SV didn't have any problems. used maybe 1 or 2 cures the rest of the way. seemed still fine w/o conserving OC with 7 mobs, but that was only 5 rounds, and maybe i didnt get any dangerous ones. funny how the beginning was more trouble. didn't use SoL.
2 mp pots, 3 heal pots (i use 1 in round 1 prior to building oc for regen/heartseeker) For later rounds, if health is an issue, health pots are also nice since they give you a boost on top of regen for 50 rounds.

definitely go 71/72 pmi to save some trouble i'd say. I'll try with less accuracy and see how tedious that is.

Hi,just got back after long break after the patch,currently what's the most efficient build to farm credits ? I'm running dry of credits to get some porns so I might need to do some arena soon..

I just recently got back as well, and I have the same reason of playing xD . Just do all your arena on normal, that should net you about 50k daily (~ 500k GP). Sell all the crappy equipments to the bazaar and you should get another 20k-50k, depending on your luck.

Since it's on normal, just go with aoe build, 2h melee (try to get ethereal, even ethereal axe is better than non-ether estoc/scythe on normal) or magic are all good. Build adb/edb (more expensive) or acc/crit rate (cheaper)

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Sep 2 2013, 02:15

@eramosat

You really need to increase your base damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I really jealous of xtech base damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Is there any difference between doing IW on Normal and IWTBH other than speed ? I know that for example doing IW on Normal adds +50 exp to weapon. On hard it will be 70. On IWTBH it will be even more, but, is there any other difference ?

Is there any difference between doing IW on Normal and IWTBH other than speed ? I know that for example doing IW on Normal adds +50 exp to weapon. On hard it will be 70. On IWTBH it will be even more, but, is there any other difference ?

I don't quite follow your question but I'll wing it anyways. If you IW an equipment in IWBTH, you need 13 clear runs to achieve Lv10 Max. If you were to do it in Normal, I think it's about 15x that. The number of rounds remain the same but the monsters' strengths are exponentially higher in IWBTH.

normal need 100 run to max item in last patch , i think it still same in this patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

These so-called experts were completely unhelpful! Thanks for ignoring me for 3 pages and talking about some stupid sword!

Is there any difference between doing IW on Normal and IWTBH other than speed ? I know that for example doing IW on Normal adds +50 exp to weapon. On hard it will be 70. On IWTBH it will be even more, but, is there any other difference ?

No, just the same considerations as other modes, drop bonuses and loot penalty for 1000 rounds under hell difficulty.

also from an efficiency standpoint, it's often better to do the highest difficulty you can (comfortably) manage. Due to things like ping and lag and round changes being (relatively) constant you might save time doing the same item on higher difficulty.
an example, i was timing doing a sup /134 rounds, took me 13 min on hell (2.8x pxp). 1 run on BT took me 21 min (5.6 pxp). PxP-wise, 2 runs of hell (26 min) = 1 run of BT (21 min) so you can see that it would make more sense to do BT, assuming i have the time. I often only want to do a quick 15 min or less run instead of sitting around for longer (especially for mag/legendaries)

@eramosat Just did iwbth T&T w/ this setup (+1 infusion, no shards)

only 8 mobs in last few rounds, and can't say i had to cure more than 10 times. Felt pretty safe. I was pretty much fine stancing through 7 mobs. The only time i cured was when the known danger mobs were their annoying selves. For some reason celestia was hitting me a lot harder than usually. I don't remember having holy mit from potencies on previous setups though but i don't usually find celestia that annoying.

2 (or was it 3) mana potions, 1 spirit potion, 2 heal potions (+1 last round cuz i didn't bother recasting regen when it expired). Cast SoL once, but never procced.