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I disagree. SoL should always be first followed by haste.

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From the picture you can see that on the turn I casted haste, I can still get hit by mobs.

Scenario - A random encounter of 10 mobs.

Example 1: He casts haste first. If 3/10 of the mobs were to crit he would probably be dead on the first turn.

Example 2: SoL first. Even if he gets crit by 10/10 mobs, SoL will trigger. When SoL triggers, Cloak of the Fallen will be activated which adds +75% PMI and MMI for a few turns giving him time to heal and fully buff up before fighting.

Cloak of the Fallen

Being brought back by Spark of Life has draped you with this powerful protective shield, increasing your damage resistance for a brief time.

- When Spark of Life is triggered Cloak of the Fallen procs, which grants full immunity to damage during the turn that Spark triggers.
- Grants +75%? physical and magical mitigation bonus after the original proc.

Source: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Supportive

WHAT!!!!!!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
i never pay attention about

Cloak of the Fallen

Being brought back by Spark of Life has draped you with this powerful protective shield, increasing your damage resistance for a brief time.

- When Spark of Life is triggered Cloak of the Fallen procs, which grants full immunity to damage during the turn that Spark triggers.
- Grants +75%? physical and magical mitigation bonus after the original proc.

Source: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Supportive

I don't know i'm lucky or not.This time i cast haste first and i can win 1VS 10 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Maybe it can also helpfull with haste.

But (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) With

Grants +75%? physical and magical mitigation bonus after the original proc

those condition i also thing i's better to cast SoL first (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
You got good reason to defend your answer.And you explain to the core (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Thanks a lot for this SoL advice. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

by the way why your have defferent pic than me.I mean like 5 in regen symbol.It's easier to play if i also can have that.


This post has been edited by zanky: Aug 30 2013, 10:45

@buktore i see. just try it myself so ican judge it my self. Indeed it's ultimate answer. Well i'll wait to do alms round in IW.
by the way what:

alms round in IW

I just know IW is item word

I disagree. SoL should always be first followed by haste.

(IMG:[oi44.tinypic.com] http://oi44.tinypic.com/23rx280.jpg)

From the picture you can see that on the turn I casted haste, I can still get hit by mobs.

Scenario - A random encounter of 10 mobs.

Example 1: He casts haste first. If 3/10 of the mobs were to crit he would probably be dead on the first turn.

Example 2: SoL first. Even if he gets crit by 10/10 mobs, SoL will trigger. When SoL triggers, Cloak of the Fallen will be activated which adds +75% PMI and MMI for a few turns giving him time to heal and fully buff up before fighting.

Cloak of the Fallen

Being brought back by Spark of Life has draped you with this powerful protective shield, increasing your damage resistance for a brief time.

- When Spark of Life is triggered Cloak of the Fallen procs, which grants full immunity to damage during the turn that Spark triggers.
- Grants +75%? physical and magical mitigation bonus after the original proc.

Source: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Supportive

I am running IA so the first spell hasn't been a worry for in a long time but from what I remember Haste has always been better for me than SoL first. Obviously you should run both but in RE most of the time you won't get killed in the first round and with haste your actions are much faster so the earlier you get that in the better you'll be. I mean if you get SoL first you'll be fine but I feel you'll take more of a beating.

I am running IA so the first spell hasn't been a worry for in a long time but from what I remember Haste has always been better for me than SoL first. Obviously you should run both but in RE most of the time you won't get killed in the first round and with haste your actions are much faster so the earlier you get that in the better you'll be. I mean if you get SoL first you'll be fine but I feel you'll take more of a beating.

True, usually people don't die in the first round. However, in his case

Damn i die again in IWTB RE with 8 or more monster in turn 2 or more.
today i die two times already with simmiliar condition. if i can learn both of it,i'll learn it.

well kinda curious which better, weaken or SS and i'm clumsy enough not to cast SV on second turn (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
i cast protec first then SS.And SS not really helpfull in this situation.I thing weaken is better choise in this situation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This shows that he is unable to handle IWTBH comfortably, hence my suggestion of SoL first.

It would greatly increase his survivability during REs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

I just know IW is item word

More like 'Intense Workout' ... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Damn i die again in IWTB RE with 8 or more monster in turn 2 or more.
today i die two times already with simmiliar condition. if i can learn both of it,i'll learn it.

well kinda curious which better, weaken or SS and i'm clumsy enough not to cast SV on second turn (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
i cast protec first then SS.And SS not really helpfull in this situation.I thing weaken is better choise in this situation (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you seriously need more speed...

just by casting HS, you got hit by almost every monster 2 to 3 times each.

you might need to work on your stats and equipment.

@hentai_fusion yeah you right.I still look for good equipment

True, usually people don't die in the first round. However, in his case
This shows that he is unable to handle IWTBH comfortably, hence my suggestion of SoL first.

It would greatly increase his survivability during REs (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

Yeah (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I feel much more safe with SoL on 1 turn so i can survive atleast until I get myself full buff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

@zanky

you need more speed and PMI (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Spend more exp into AGI and END , or just use more leather on your light (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Last , use IA 1 ( 50hath ) 450k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

When elemental strikes are of no concern I would go with flame spike shield to defend against spirit attacks from dragons and some of the stronger elementals.

And don't cast heartseeker before all of your defences are up, it has a very long cast time and leaves you open to a barrage of attacks.

@nobody_xxx yup.now no more than 10 different on PA str/dex 263 agi/end 259. for armor i look for armor which better than i own now.you know my plan right?and all my equipment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) it has not changed now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
today i just dig info and only play all on normal arena like always (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) with some IWTB RE to experiment something (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
it's doesn't matter as long as it's light and better.and if possible fleet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

@ststs fire spike? got it. thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by zanky: Aug 30 2013, 14:09

I always start with |CURE|haste>protection>shadow veil>absorb>spirit shield>spark of life>|FULL CURE|heartseeker>regen.

I'd like to get IA1+2 but i'm poor and hath prices are rising quick, wtf.

I always start with |CURE|haste>protection>shadow veil>absorb>spirit shield>spark of life>|FULL CURE|heartseeker>regen.

I'd like to get IA1+2 but i'm poor and hath prices are rising quick, wtf.

why you cast cure on turn 1? or i misunderstand?

The reason I'm interested in Tokenizer is because it could help me gain hath by way of daily ROB. However if the Wiki's right, and the drop ratio for Chaos Tokens and Blood Tokens is 4:1 and the perk skews it towards (let's say) 6:1 as it doubles the drop rate of "tokens"? Then the standard deviation would probably make taking the perk moot towards that end.

Eh, chaos tokens benefit you more in the long run - true, monsters are expensive, but they'll pay off sooner than something like last levels of trainings, and chaos tokens allow you to get more or upgrade affection, both of which are % of a monster in a sense. Putting 1 mil crystals on a monster will give you a mob with pretty decent HG chance.

That said, tokenizer is not the best investment - much worse than investing that hath into crystals to make monsters, at least.

Eh, chaos tokens benefit you more in the long run - true, monsters are expensive, but they'll pay off sooner than something like last levels of trainings, and chaos tokens allow you to get more or upgrade affection, both of which are % of a monster in a sense. Putting 1 mil crystals on a monster will give you a mob with pretty decent HG chance.

That said, tokenizer is not the best investment - much worse than investing that hath into crystals to make monsters, at least.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) really?
tought i'm not planing to increase tokenizer.I'll pay attention about your info. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

And i curious about price energy drink.it's really around 29k? anybody know? or it's diferent ppl to ppl?

This post has been edited by zanky: Aug 30 2013, 14:56

tokenizer1 is 20x more expensive than IA1 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

why you cast cure on turn 1? or i misunderstand?

It's sorted on my quickbar from lowest MP to highest.

Cure is just first because it's the cheapest spell to cast and get channeling from, of course you don't cast cure when you're full HP...
I haven't died in RE IWBTH for a long time now.

zanky: I sold 20 two days ago at 35k each.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) really?
tought i'm not planing to increase tokenizer.I'll pay attention about your info. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

And i curious about price energy drink.it's really around 29k? anybody know? or it's diferent ppl to ppl?

Everything below 38-40k will sell pretty easily.

Though people only buy for 30k max in the WTB section.

i should start selling my ED too rahter than using it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)