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post Aug 28 2013, 06:29
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Aug 27 2013, 04:40) *

I can't be sure, but at the end of the arena I think they only drop trophies but they might drop other things in the arenas above trio and the tree...but I have no idea really since I almost never do them. So basically, maybe, but i dunno.

QUOTE(zen_zen @ Aug 27 2013, 05:26) *

I've never received anything other than their trophies, in or out of RoB.

Well trying to answer my own question I took on End of Days since asking twice. The schoolgirls in the last half either dropped a significantly higher amount of credits than the other monsters, or their trophies but nothing else. So I will assume they cannot drop from the main drop flowchart.
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post Aug 28 2013, 06:42
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@nobody_xxx (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) damn
i just have 1 think in my mind now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
When i can actually become god tier mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
If make some money so difficult (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I'll stick with melee. And gather info and C also everything else i need.

this situation really hard (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

i don't know if it's lucky to become melee (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (I want high damage)
But melee don't really bad. it's indeed need C cheaper than mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(SPoison @ Aug 27 2013, 09:40) *

I can't be sure, but at the end of the arena I think they only drop trophies but they might drop other things in the arenas above trio and the tree...but I have no idea really since I almost never do them. So basically, maybe, but i dunno.

I don't really sure abut TTT or above. But I got equip when i clear RoB FSP on IWTB
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I also recomended ppl who not clear it yet to use weaken and emperil.if you don't get it yet,try to get it.i need 1434 turn to beat it without those. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Damn It's very long (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Aug 28 2013, 07:23
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For DW expert please give some opinion about what should i use betwend this 3 weapon.
Tempestuous shortsword of slaugter
demonic shortsword of banshee
shortsword of balance

I use empestuous shortsword of slaugter on main hand and demonic shortsword of banshee for off hand.
What i'm trouble is demonic shortsword of banshee got dark attack and siphon spirit for additional option.
Even if shortsword of balance got higher attack a little bit more stat than demonic shortsword of banshee, I still think demonic shortsword of banshee is better choise.
It's true?
Or i should make demonic shortsword of banshee for main hand and Tempestuous shortsword of slaugter for off hand.because not much monster have high dark resist.
Or you got different opinion?
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post Aug 28 2013, 09:42
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Aug 27 2013, 21:26) *

Huh, what do you need to worry about auctions for, you have more than enough credits to walk into a store and completely re-outfit yourself and still have enough credits for weapons. You can try Mantra64 or nuruponurupo's stores they both have a very good selection of exquisite+ Shade armour for sale and very good people to deal with.

1) how do you know how much money I have?
2) I'm wanting good quality shade armor (as in, not just high pxp, but also actually having good rolls), shadowdancer with 4 PABs (or at least 3, and endurance/agility must be on it), which isn't exactly easy to come by in the stores. That's why I've been after the auctions. I've also bought things from nuro before. Yep, good peeps.

Why do I want good quality shadowdancer? I want to see more of this. I love evade. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

3 11 Heartiels hits you for 597 slashing damage.
3 10 You evade the attack from Holylouis.
3 9 You evade the attack from Rarafew.
3 8 You evade the attack from Clow Reed.
3 7 You parry the attack from Liger Zero.
3 6 You evade the attack from Heartiels.
3 5 You evade the attack from Flame Atronach.
3 4 Holylouis uses cocksuker. You parry the attack.
3 3 You evade the attack from Rarafew.
3 2 You gain the effect Heartseeker.
3 1 You cast Heartseeker.
2 7 You parry the attack from Liger Zero.
2 6 You evade the attack from Clow Reed.
2 5 Heartiels hits you for 620 slashing damage.
2 4 You gain the effect Channeling.
2 3 You gain the effect Shadow Veil.
2 2 You gain 0.02 points of supportive magic proficiency.
2 1 You cast Shadow Veil.
1 7 Holylouis hits you for 818 slashing damage.
1 6 You parry the attack from Rarafew.
1 5 You evade the attack from Flame Atronach.
1 4 Liger Zero hits you for 1095 slashing damage.
1 3 You gain the effect Hastened.
1 2 You gain 0.01 points of supportive magic proficiency.
1 1 You cast Haste.
0 7 Spawned Monster F: MID=5651 (Flame Atronach) LV=222 HP=34460.4
0 6 Spawned Monster E: MID=48522 (Heartiels) LV=226 HP=73570
0 5 Spawned Monster D: MID=25245 (Liger Zero) LV=227 HP=88328
0 4 Spawned Monster C: MID=48918 (Rarafew) LV=222 HP=89232
0 3 Spawned Monster B: MID=48246 (Holylouis) LV=227 HP=68716
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=6072 (Clow Reed) LV=222 HP=60652
0 1 Initializing random encounter ...
0 0 Battle Start!
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post Aug 28 2013, 09:43
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@solarhawk you got some advice gor me?
I see you love evade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I kinda lost in here.(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) i love high damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) but (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

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post Aug 28 2013, 09:49
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QUOTE(zanky @ Aug 27 2013, 21:42) *


I don't really sure abut TTT or above. But I got equip when i clear RoB FSP on IWTB
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I also recomended ppl who not clear it yet to use weaken and emperil.if you don't get it yet,try to get it.i need 1434 turn to beat it without those. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Damn It's very long (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


The equipment you received was the clearance bonus dropped by the system, the schoolgirls only dropped their trophies.

That's pretty shabby clearance bonus - how many LotD and Scavenger did you say you've trained? zanky, you are going to have to start playing not just RoB in IWBTH but Arena as well, if you want to realize dividends from your extensive LotD and Scavenger training. I am getting drops better than that Superior Armour (most of the time) and I only have 6 LotD and 7 Scavenger playing the Arena in IWBTH.
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post Aug 28 2013, 09:59
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QUOTE(zanky @ Aug 28 2013, 00:43) *

@solarhawk you got some advice gor me?
I see you love evade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I kinda lost in here.(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) i love high damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) but (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

My advice to you is to take the advice given by others. If you're light armor, go with a couple pieces of good quality leather of protection (or deflection since light armor has very low piercing mit), good rolls (look up the equipment ranges for a reference to see if items are actually good or not), and go for shade with fleet or shadowdancer suffix. Fleet is much more affordable, and if I remember correctly, is only missing some crit chance from shadowdancer. It's late and I need to go sleep so I can't look it up to verify right now if that's the only difference between the two. Second, if you use 2H, go with a mace for the stun, so you survive better, and it should be ethereal (giants and dragons have high crushing mitigation, ethereal avoids this by changing the damage type from slashing, piercing, or crushing to void), or with DW, either an axe and rapier or club and rapier. Again, ideally ethereal, but an elemental weapon that is leveled up to 10 (meaning it's actually good enough to invest in leveling it up as well) would be effective as well. The rapier would ideally be a rapier of balance (for increased offhand strike), and have high Penetrated Armor chance.

If you're heavy armor, I can't advise you there but plenty of others have had suggestions for heavy in the past few days, just read the advice given to them.
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post Aug 28 2013, 10:00
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Aug 28 2013, 14:49) *

The equipment you received was the clearance bonus dropped by the system, the schoolgirls only dropped their trophies.


I see

QUOTE(zen_zen @ Aug 28 2013, 14:49) *

That's pretty shabby clearance bonus - how many LotD and Scavenger did you say you've trained? zanky, you are going to have to start playing not just RoB in IWBTH but Arena as well, if you want to realize dividends from your extensive LotD and Scavenger training. I am getting drops better than that Superior Armour (most of the time) and I only have 6 LotD and 7 Scavenger playing the Arena in IWBTH.


Well you RIGGHTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
III REALIZE I LIKE AN IDIOT. I'm so stupid (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
yeah now i still clear lvl 200 arena.And nintendo very easy to me.well i can't quickly kill all enemy like normal.

This is after i change all my equipment.i start to collect better equipment about 2-4 days ago.
Oh my god.what I'm doing before this.
You right about where do you spen your credit or something.
I also don't use infusion,scroll or depre speel. when i clear RoB FSP IWTB before.
and after i try some infusion and scroll. I don't think i have troble kick his ass.
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Sorry about before.And I hope all of expert in HV don't mind sharing some tough and opinion.
And please also give some more detailed information.

Well i kinnda confuse with your word before.because your pin point word.not really explain everything to newbe like me.I realize what you mean, After I dig a little more info about HV.
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post Aug 28 2013, 10:10
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hey, i hope this is the right place to ask...but i was wondering about...how exactly can i tell the "price" of my items? I understand one option is to either sell stuff to the bazaar for very low profit, or just salvage it...but if I want to actually sell my stuff in a shop (i dont have enough stuff now...but eventually i will), how can i tell what a suitable price may be to price my equipment at? is there perhaps any formula, calculator or something I use?
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post Aug 28 2013, 10:16
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@solarhawk thanks a lot (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I also try to balance my stat. but I still think with str 270(12M) and dex 245(6K) is better.
Because with 1 str or 2 dex i got same attack damage.It's wrong again?No right.
I'll just send my stat pic
I don't have good DW weapon.I'm still look for that.
I don't really prefer heavy.because it's slow.although have good defence (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) nah i'm still prefer speed.
But i don't mind become slow as long as i can do high damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
But thanks about that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I also realize i got hit much if i use 2H so i using mace now.
why rapier of balance give more offhand? I never realize this point. Don't it better with rapier of slaughter?whats the different?
I never put atention on log.And now After i read log when i battle,piercing attack with crit strike can overkill me.
Your info really detailed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) but i ignore it before. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
in the end, Thanks your great (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
I'm triying to look some ethereal mace and rapier.now.
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here some. Well i'm kinda wrong in lower lvl so some of my traning is mess.I think scavanger is better.because the bigger drop change is better.

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I realize something wrong in my stat.I thing i should increase my agi and end abit more.I will try to hunt with this for now. So i know it's good or not.

This is weapon i use.
DW: main hand off hand
2H: for survival for quick kill

ANd this my armor
helmet
body
hands
legs
feet

Anyway zen please write with more detail info. I beg you. I don't understand if you just say where do you spen your C.I also have some though but i don't know if it's wise to use or not.so with detailed info i also can get great wisdom. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
By the, I'm planing to become mage.After i pass lvl 300+.For now i will perfected my melee and dig some info about mage.
Because mage deal high damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) and I love that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
I dont say i hate evade. I also like speed but i like high damage more

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post Aug 28 2013, 10:19
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QUOTE(Trollmasterbation @ Aug 28 2013, 15:10) *

hey, i hope this is the right place to ask...but i was wondering about...how exactly can i tell the "price" of my items? I understand one option is to either sell stuff to the bazaar for very low profit, or just salvage it...but if I want to actually sell my stuff in a shop (i dont have enough stuff now...but eventually i will), how can i tell what a suitable price may be to price my equipment at? is there perhaps any formula, calculator or something I use?

I recomended to:
Decide that for your self.You want to sell those for profit(put high price) or just to help other(Put low price).
Look in WTS for price list so you know what to do.
if your equipment just junk, sell it with low price.
You sell eqiup on bazaar only for 20% value. so sell junk above that and below 100%.
If you don't know which is high price or not=====>>>>>>> go to WTS and do auction

If you want to salvage some equipment,i sugest you salvage equipment above supperior.And you don't get anything if you salvage it below fine.

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post Aug 28 2013, 10:23
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QUOTE(Trollmasterbation @ Aug 28 2013, 01:10) *

hey, i hope this is the right place to ask...but i was wondering about...how exactly can i tell the "price" of my items? I understand one option is to either sell stuff to the bazaar for very low profit, or just salvage it...but if I want to actually sell my stuff in a shop (i dont have enough stuff now...but eventually i will), how can i tell what a suitable price may be to price my equipment at? is there perhaps any formula, calculator or something I use?


Basically you look at what similar equipments are selling at in other shops. You also go buy what you think it is worth and if it sells quickly probably raise the price or doesn't sell at all lower the price, but no real solid method.
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post Aug 28 2013, 10:34
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QUOTE(Solarhawk @ Aug 28 2013, 00:42) *

1) how do you know how much money I have?
2) I'm wanting good quality shade armor (as in, not just high pxp, but also actually having good rolls), shadowdancer with 4 PABs (or at least 3, and endurance/agility must be on it), which isn't exactly easy to come by in the stores. That's why I've been after the auctions. I've also bought things from nuro before. Yep, good peeps.

Why do I want good quality shadowdancer? I want to see more of this. I love evade. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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1) Because I know more about you than you think, muwuhaha!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Actually, when you posted your stats, it's all there for all to see. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

2) We are all in the same boat, I don't buy any defensive equipments without 4pab, ever. I have basically settled on my Shade set (the only armour set for the next little while), except perhaps the Boots.

3) You love evade, so do I! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But if evade is your priority, you want Fleet not Shadowdancer. As the name suggests, Fleet Shades are in general, higher in evade. Shadowdancer has the exclusive Attack Crit Chance, because of this Shadowdancers tend to be priced the highest.

If you install HV Stats script, you can get see what your evade rate is. I get hit by about 1/3 of the monster attacks, about 40% of the attacks are evaded with parry and resist making up the rest of my defensive make up.

But there are times when all the stats are for naught - just now I got defeated in RE, IWBTH while I was setting up my buffs when all 10 monsters attacked at the same time. I call this act of god - haven't had it happen in a very long time but in HV, lightning can indeed strike twice or thrice or... so on. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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QUOTE(Solarhawk @ Aug 28 2013, 14:42) *

2) I'm wanting good quality shade armor (as in, not just high pxp, but also actually having good rolls), shadowdancer with 4 PABs (or at least 3, and endurance/agility must be on it), which isn't exactly easy to come by in the stores. That's why I've been after the auctions. I've also bought things from nuro before. Yep, good peeps.



QUOTE(zen_zen @ Aug 28 2013, 15:34) *

2) We are all in the same boat, I don't buy any defensive equipments without 4pab, ever. I have basically settled on my Shade set (the only armour set for the next little while), except perhaps the Boots.


I notice people say 4pab a lot.What's that?
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4 primary attribute bonus
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4 primary attribute bonus


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Quick question - by puting 4 pab in weapon - which one is stronger ? That one with for example 800 slashing dmg or one with 400 void dmg ?
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Quick question - by puting 4 pab in weapon - which one is stronger ? That one with for example 800 slashing dmg or one with 400 void dmg ?




http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Character_Stats


Here's what each point of attributes does.




Honestly 400 points of damage is going to be worth a lot more than almost any difference in PAB rolls.

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QUOTE(LittleSweetLoli @ Aug 28 2013, 17:34) *

Quick question - by puting 4 pab in weapon - which one is stronger ? That one with for example 800 slashing dmg or one with 400 void dmg ?

I thing 800 slashing dmg.

But you should not choose base on that alone
like equipment i have:
excuisite ethereal mace of illithid
excuisite ethereal longsword of slaughter

I personaly thing my mace is better because it got stun even if longsword got more damage.
the reason because i need to stun so i get better change of survival.But if the monster is not hard to deal, longsword is better
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QUOTE(LittleSweetLoli @ Aug 28 2013, 18:34) *

Quick question - by puting 4 pab in weapon - which one is stronger ? That one with for example 800 slashing dmg or one with 400 void dmg ?


it depends on the PAB values...

generally speaking, void is stronger since there is no specific mitigation against it.
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