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post Nov 28 2010, 01:08
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Nov 27 2010, 17:01) *

mage build...


least priority is str and dex but do not ignore it completely, just keep it a few points below the rest...



Is there a reason not to ignore it completely, seeing that those stats doesn't help a mage build?
I have neglicted those stats for the past 32 levels.

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post Nov 28 2010, 03:36
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QUOTE(hyl @ Nov 27 2010, 15:08) *

Is there a reason not to ignore it completely, seeing that those stats doesn't help a mage build?
I have neglicted those stats for the past 32 levels.


Whenever you want to proc ET.

Dex raises parry as well. Str raises HP slightly.
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post Nov 28 2010, 04:52
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Arena challenges are really starting to frustrate me.. is there any better strategy I should be employing, because I just ended up wasting 5 greater mana potions and 1 superior mana potion plus a scroll of shielding trying to out-muscle everything in dark skies, cept I ran out of mana in the second last round, and didn't even reach the final round. Also, it doesn't help when it takes 4 casts of weaken for it to land even once, and then I need to heal 2 or 3 times, because I take 100-200 damage per round


I dunno, maybe my equipment just sucks or something, or the RNG just hates me, but I just get so frustrated everyday when I do my arenas and I get destroyed so easily. I mean, I read a lot of the older forum posts, and I don't think I'm doing anything too wrongly, since I do fine everywhere else, but my god, the arenas, yargh



derp, I tried to include my stats, but apparently I can't include urls on my first post. I wonder if I can edit them in.

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[img442.imageshack.us] Stats
[img87.imageshack.us] Abilities

Equipment
Average Mithril Rapier of Slaughter
Fine Platinum Dagger of the Nimble
Fair Silk Cap of the Racoon
Fair Silk Robe of the Fleet
Average Silk Gloves of the Fleet
Average Silk Pants of the Fleet
Average Silk Shoes of the Fleet



Any help will be appreciated

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post Nov 28 2010, 08:04
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Current level: 37

HP: 615
MP: 87
SP: 25

Current stats:

STR 39 +6 +0
DEX 31 +4 +0
AGI 32 +2 +0
END 39 +5 +0
INT 20 +0 +1
WIS 26 +0 +0

Current equipment:

Two-handed full plate mode:

Average Prism Longsword of Slaughter

Fine Prism Plate Helmet of Warding

Average Diamond Plate Cuirass of Warding

Average Diamond Plate Gauntlets of Warding.

Average Diamond Plate Greaves of Protection

Fine Diamond Plate Sabatons of Protection

Two-handed normal mode:

Average Prism Longsword of Slaughter

Fair Cotton Cap of the Fire-Eater

Average Leather Breastplate of Warding

Average Diamond Plate Gauntlets of Warding.

Superior Leather Leggings of Protection

Average Cotton Shoes of the Spirit-ward

One-handed full plate mode:

Fine Prism Axe of Balance OR Fine Prism Shortsword of Balance

Exquisite Prism Kite Shield

Fine Prism Plate Helmet of Warding

Average Diamond Plate Cuirass of Warding

Average Diamond Plate Gauntlets of Warding.

Average Diamond Plate Greaves of Protection

Fine Diamond Plate Sabatons of Protection

One-handed Normal mode:

Fine Prism Axe of Balance OR Fine Prism Shortsword of Balance

Exquisite Prism Kite Shield

Fair Cotton Cap of the Fire-Eater

Average Leather Breastplate of Warding

Average Diamond Plate Gauntlets of Warding.

Superior Leather Leggings of Protection

Average Cotton Shoes of the Spirit-ward

All four of these setups have been used in the past fairly equally.

My current proficencies:

One-handed: 22.79
Two-handed: 20.36
Dual Wield: 16.68
StafF: 0.49

Shield: 21.56
Cloth: 27.67
Light Armor: 23.68
Heavy Armor: 28.36

Elemental: 4.02
Divine: 0.00
Forbidden: 0.00
Deprecating: 0.32
Supportive: 0.05
Curative: 11.63

How am I doing? What do you suggest I change, if anything?

Thanks for the help (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Nov 28 2010, 10:58
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ditch cotton...

once you started noticing monsters doing double turns on you frequently, trying switching some of your heavy armor for either light or cloth...
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post Nov 28 2010, 11:04
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Nov 28 2010, 02:58) *

ditch cotton...

once you started noticing monsters doing double turns on you frequently, trying switching some of your heavy armor for either light or cloth...


I'll try this in the future.

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post Nov 28 2010, 12:18
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QUOTE(dkplee @ Nov 28 2010, 05:52) *

Arena challenges are really starting to frustrate me.. is there any better strategy I should be employing, because I just ended up wasting 5 greater mana potions and 1 superior mana potion plus a scroll of shielding trying to out-muscle everything in dark skies, cept I ran out of mana in the second last round, and didn't even reach the final round. Also, it doesn't help when it takes 4 casts of weaken for it to land even once, and then I need to heal 2 or 3 times, because I take 100-200 damage per round
I dunno, maybe my equipment just sucks or something, or the RNG just hates me, but I just get so frustrated everyday when I do my arenas and I get destroyed so easily. I mean, I read a lot of the older forum posts, and I don't think I'm doing anything too wrongly, since I do fine everywhere else, but my god, the arenas, yargh
derp, I tried to include my stats, but apparently I can't include urls on my first post. I wonder if I can edit them in.

edit:

[img442.imageshack.us] Stats
[img87.imageshack.us] Abilities

Equipment
Average Mithril Rapier of Slaughter
Fine Platinum Dagger of the Nimble
Fair Silk Cap of the Racoon
Fair Silk Robe of the Fleet
Average Silk Gloves of the Fleet
Average Silk Pants of the Fleet
Average Silk Shoes of the Fleet
Any help will be appreciated



with that armor you basically need to cast a lot of offensive spell so try to get some points on poison which has useful effects: Poison
But you really are too light for using only deprecating/supportive/curative spells (low interferance is needed only for all other spells, for the types you use, a little more of 25 is fine)
get some good dragon hide or kevlar equipment and replace with it your worst cloth piece
add pieces till you reach 25-30 of interferance and then kick some monster asses

Also your wisdom is too low, try to take it 3-4 ponts under your main stats
you can even raise your INT till 10-11 points behind your mains stats

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post Nov 28 2010, 13:04
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QUOTE(tribalspirit @ Nov 28 2010, 02:18) *

with that armor you basically need to cast a lot of offensive spell so try to get some points on poison which has useful effects: Poison
But you really are too light for using only deprecating/supportive/curative spells (low interferance is needed only for all other spells, for the types you use, a little more of 25 is fine)
get some good dragon hide or kevlar equipment and replace with it your worst cloth piece
add pieces till you reach 25-30 of interferance and then kick some monster asses

Also your wisdom is too low, try to take it 3-4 ponts under your main stats
you can even raise your INT till 10-11 points behind your mains stats



So I guess I'm just too thinly armoured. What stats should I look for in kevlar or dragon hide? I haven't seen any kevlar drop yet, and I don't really have the credits to afford any, but I have this for dragonhide. Is it any good?

I went for a light set-up due to lower burden and many convincing posts praising evasion over mitigation. Currently, my interference is 11.5 while burden is 34.3. I'm just afraid any higher and I'll end up taking even more damage due to enemies attacking me more often.


If I get poison, should I keep weaken? I seem to have the most trouble in the arena rounds where I'm up against 6 or 7 enemies, with 1 or 2 of them being mini-bosses. I usually throw up haste, shield, and shadow veil while casting weaken on the 3 or 4 most physically damaging enemies, then killing the most magically damaging enemies first. If I add poison to the mix, it seems I'll waste even more turns trying to debuff, and I'll need to heal even more, etc. Wouldn't weaken make more sense, since I'm taking 90% damage from normal physical hits anyway?
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post Nov 28 2010, 13:20
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i think the issue is that you are wasting too many turns and mp trying to buff yourself and decrep the monsters while those turns can be better spent killing off some of them.

you can try ditching all those supportive and decrep spells and go for sp tank and oc instead since...

Players gain a percentage bonus to melee damage equal to half of their current Overcharge level.
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post Nov 28 2010, 13:27
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You know what, I might just try that.

I'll probably keep shield, since that only takes one point, but getting rid of haste, shadow veil, and weaken means 15 extra points. I've only recently started training extra ability points, since I wasn't sure what to invest in, so I can get a few more points for cheap.


Another question. I noticed the wiki mentions an exp bonus for posting. Obviously I made my first post today, and I'm noticing about 30-40% increase in exp gained. Has anyone figured out how it works? Such as how long the boost lasts, around how much extra exp we're actually getting, and if additional posts add even more exp? I'll admit, half my reason for making this reply is to see if I get even more exp afterwards.


edit: okay, maybe a smaller boost for this post, but not really noticable I think

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post Nov 28 2010, 13:28
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QUOTE(dkplee @ Nov 28 2010, 14:04) *

So I guess I'm just too thinly armoured. What stats should I look for in kevlar or dragon hide? I haven't seen any kevlar drop yet, and I don't really have the credits to afford any, but I have this for dragonhide. Is it any good?

I went for a light set-up due to lower burden and many convincing posts praising evasion over mitigation. Currently, my interference is 11.5 while burden is 34.3. I'm just afraid any higher and I'll end up taking even more damage due to enemies attacking me more often.
If I get poison, should I keep weaken? I seem to have the most trouble in the arena rounds where I'm up against 6 or 7 enemies, with 1 or 2 of them being mini-bosses. I usually throw up haste, shield, and shadow veil while casting weaken on the 3 or 4 most physically damaging enemies, then killing the most magically damaging enemies first. If I add poison to the mix, it seems I'll waste even more turns trying to debuff, and I'll need to heal even more, etc. Wouldn't weaken make more sense, since I'm taking 90% damage from normal physical hits anyway?


actually i'm doing fine in all arenas with 2 high evade cloth pieces and 3 dragonhide...DW with rapier and shortsword..burden 42, interference 28
meh, some days you are simply destined to die... against two-tree minibosses (expecially mind raper kill him on sight) with mob, if they resist too much to weaken and poison and they score some critical you are doomed, no matter how good your stats or equip
normally use weaken on all monsters starting from higher level ones or minibosses, keep shield up
when you find minibosses keep them weaken and poisoned to prevent them to launch too many spells or spirit while you dispose the weak ones.. haste and shadow veil help, but you will need a lot of wisdom so use them only on final rounds

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post Nov 28 2010, 13:44
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tribal, do you mind if you show what your equipment is like? I think I can get a good reference point from you.


Also, when casting poison, do you bother to proc penetraded armor first? Or just use it strictly for the half regen?
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post Nov 28 2010, 14:38
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these are my equip items for arenas, the better which i could find in shops at reasonable price

rapier
sword
cap
breastplate
gloves
leggins
boots

still far from ideal but they do the trick (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

as stated from hentai fusion, don't concentate too much on weaken everything, expecially at first rounds...
if they resist a spell don't continue to try it, because a chain of fails is guaranteed
weaken a miniboss is a must but poison them only in final rounds... they have not many hp so, if you try to proc them with penetrated armor and using poison, you will find that you have yet killed them, so use poison just at the start of the round to prevent them to use too much spells

be aware to mind raper because his skill can easily damage you by one third wihout critic, so try to keep always half hp

you have good proficiences so once you have redistributed points on your abilities and finded some good dragon hide, you surely do better

increase your int and wis though, or weaken and poison will become useless
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post Nov 28 2010, 14:41
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QUOTE(tribalspirit @ Nov 28 2010, 20:38) *

if they resist a spell don't continue to try it, because a chain of fails is guaranteed


No its not.
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post Nov 28 2010, 14:53
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to me happens a lot
many times i made it at first time
but if i find one that resist, i could try even 6 times before having a success

can you explain why to me it happens so much? (they are all resist, i'm not counting the rare fails due to interference)
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post Nov 28 2010, 14:59
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QUOTE(tribalspirit @ Nov 28 2010, 12:53) *

to me happens a lot
many times i made it at first time
but if i find one that resist, i could try even 6 times before having a success

can you explain why to me it happens so much? (they are all resist, i'm not counting the rare fails due to interference)
LOLstatistics that's the answer. You also get a chain of success way above your magic accuracy sometimes, but you don't notice that.
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post Nov 28 2010, 15:09
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QUOTE(tribalspirit @ Nov 28 2010, 15:53) *

to me happens a lot
many times i made it at first time
but if i find one that resist, i could try even 6 times before having a success

can you explain why to me it happens so much? (they are all resist, i'm not counting the rare fails due to interference)

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post Nov 28 2010, 15:10
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k learned this... pretty evil sistem though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 28 2010, 18:40
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hi guys. i'm playing the hentaiverse without knowing anything (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
im lvl 25 and i use two handed axe and i think im a warrior (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
im gonna ask you which stats i should give and which armors i should use.

my stats are

str 27
dex 26
agi 26
end 19
int 15
wis 13

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post Nov 28 2010, 18:46
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add endurance to match agi-dex at lest
add wisdom
ass some int

read the last 3-4 pages
there are plenty of advices
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