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post Aug 25 2013, 11:05
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if you want to become DW , change that shield into some weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Yep, that what I know, but I'm asking if stats are good to do so. After all we have 3 (base) slots for eq, right ?

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for equipment , buy it in WTS (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Then wtb ? Any recomendation ? I'm rather being scared seeing ppl selling for high prices for example weapons with 200 dmg so...
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post Aug 25 2013, 11:24
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i suggest you read this:
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Advice
and this:
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_FAQ
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post Aug 25 2013, 14:50
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QUOTE(LittleSweetLoli @ Aug 25 2013, 18:14) *

Then what is worth ?
So my stats are ok for DW ?
Ok, I go fight bare handed, surly I can clear everything xD, srsly, what may be better than this axe ?


Leg/Mag Eth/Ele weapon with 3 PAB and max ADB.

Don't worry, you won't have to think about that sort of thing until you 100m rolling around in your pocket

If you don't understand what the hell I'm talking about, better click that WIKI button on top of your interface

2H is always the easiest/simplest for beginner to start out with. With DW and 1H, you gotta understand the mechanism of this game to make them work.

Save up 50k-100k and get a superior ethereal estoc/scythe of slaughter, or an exquisite estoc/scythe of balance. Try to get it from an auction. Entry-level gears tend to go for cheaper price, since not many people bother to keep up with the bidding. You can also check the ended auction to see if anything isn't picked yet, and buy it at starting price. But yeah, you have to camp around for 1-2 week to get a good deal.

If you can't wait, just look through all the shops and find one with good attack (slaughter) or decent attack and good crit (balance)

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post Aug 25 2013, 14:58
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nah , even exq get fully forged ( fa estoc base atk damage and lement katalox base magic damage ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Aug 25 2013, 18:25
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QUOTE(LittleSweetLoli @ Aug 25 2013, 11:05) *

Yep, that what I know, but I'm asking if stats are good to do so. After all we have 3 (base) slots for eq, right ?
Then wtb ? Any recomendation ? I'm rather being scared seeing ppl selling for high prices for example weapons with 200 dmg so...

OMG, you actually push through to lvl 200+ with that equipments? Respect!!

For starter, I want to ask you if you still want to get going with 1H/Heavy (Q1)

If you do, here's what you must do to improve
(1) Look for better block stat.
Change your shield to something of barrier (preferably), at least of superior quality. Change your armor with something with shielding prefix, also at least of superior quality. Heck, even I can't get persuaded to go on without exquisite at your level! For armor, 1H usually use 2 or 3 shielding plate and power for the rest.

(2) Forget elemental, forbidden, and divine.
If you have spare mana, why don't you decrepit your foes? And forget evade (shadow veil), you want to block and parry to proc counter-strike!

(3) I don't see better spark of life.
Are you so tough there's no way monster crit you to death?

(4) Seriously, change that weapon!
Axe is awesome, but not of fine quality. At your level, you need something of exquisite quality!! And try having prefixed one, either ethereal or arctic (since you used flame spike shield). Replacing your weapon with another level 0 is way cheaper than working your old. Bindings is super expensive!!

That's all for prelim advice.

Now, if your answer to Q1 is not to stay at 1H/Heavy but to try something else, disregard those advice. Different advice for different fighting style.

In this game, your hand is only two, therefore you only got two slots, not three! In your case, you got axe on your main hand and shield on your offhand. If you want DW, you gotta give up your shield. If you want 2H, you gotta give up both of them to let both your hand hold the big 2H weapon.

Your proficiency is already developed into a good 1H/Heavy style, keep that up and you won't face much adversary. Change your style, you might pressed to raise your proficiency, but you also might find fighting style that you'll enjoy better. IMO, 1H/Heavy is awesome. I gonna play with this style next.

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post Aug 25 2013, 19:35
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QUOTE(Malenk)
i suggest you read this:


I did this at least twice before I ask here.

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OMG, you actually push through to lvl 200+ with that equipments? Respect!!


If I don't ask, probably I will go maybe even to level 300 in same EQ, since I guessed it was good.

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(2) Forget elemental, forbidden, and divine. If you have spare mana, why don't you decrepit your foes? And forget evade (shadow veil), you want to block and parry to proc counter-strike!


Done except shadow veil - it help me survive RoB.

Capped Better Weaken (lv 4 of 5) and Fastest Weaken (2 of 3), as well as maxed Better Spark. Still have 19 AP and not sure where to put them.

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(3) I don't see better spark of life. Are you so tough there's no way monster crit you to death?


As you see they didn't beat me to death... Mostly. But it now it's not only maxed but also, put in use.

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(4) Seriously, change that weapon! Axe is awesome, but not of fine quality. At your level, you need something of exquisite quality!! And try having prefixed one, either ethereal or arctic (since you used flame spike shield). Replacing your weapon with another level 0 is way cheaper than working your old. Bindings is super expensive!!


Well, I changed whole EQ many times to get it better and I end up here. I got few times Etheral stuff and Exquisite stuff I got only twice in whole game and I... sold it. It was not worth keeping for me since it was Cloth Armor and Staff that I not use since I'm melee.

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Now, if your answer to Q1 is not to stay at 1H/Heavy but to try something else, disregard those advice. Different advice for different fighting style.

In this game, your hand is only two, therefore you only got two slots, not three! In your case, you got axe on your main hand and shield on your offhand. If you want DW, you gotta give up your shield. If you want 2H, you gotta give up both of them to let both your hand hold the big 2H weapon.


That's why I asked if my stats are good for DW. I don't mind creating additional EQ set for DW fighting but rather it may be hard to get good EQ. As you probably noticed, I tried DW but it won't goes well that time.

@nobody_xxx: I see you got a shop, what you can recommend me from Items you have in stock ? Maybe we can have a deal.
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post Aug 25 2013, 19:47
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If you want to DW , go for axe + rapier since you heavy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 25 2013, 21:43
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In general, down all your attribute points(Especially Int) and put some into Strength, strength is pretty much the most important stat since it ups your damage output by a lot. Dex and Endurance come after that, followed by Agility and Wisdom. Intelligence doesn't really help you much except for raising spirit points and landing deprecating spells.

Dual wielding is pretty slow except for doing RoB and the last 3 Arena challenges, it focuses on single target damage and only has 1 skill that hits mulltiple targets. 2H might help your survivability if you go with mace because of the stun chance (And parry later on) if your Domino strike is maxed out. Estoc is pretty much only made for the higher levels when you have enough survivablity to live without the stun proc.

As others have said, your equipment is somewhat lacking. Power of slaughter is great if you can survive, but the PMI on most of your pieces, especially the protection ones, are pretty bad. You might want to get either better power gear, which is expensive, or switch one or two out for plate of protection.

If you want to keep playing 1H, you really really need to switch the buckler out for a tower shield.
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post Aug 25 2013, 23:14
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So i switched from heavy to light, and i have better stats + pmi without proficiency...

Then i went into the second from last arena marathon without pots and didn't notice it till i was halfway, ugh the last 30 rounds were pain without spirit points.

And does anyone else notice how the schoolgirl arenas go slower and slower after you reach the bosses?
It's annoying as shit, i can do a 10 monster hourly without any delay but i can't do the same on round 70/125 in an arena with 6 monsters, even after i restart the browser and empty cache + refresh memory and defrag and whatever else you can do to speed stuff up.
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post Aug 25 2013, 23:18
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Pillowgirl: unless you keep using same tab(if, say, chrome), most issues with zombie scripts should die with new tab/browser restart, depending on build. Try to avoid loading up history too long, and test it without scripts for a bit to see if it is from that.
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post Aug 26 2013, 02:43
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@pillow

How did your light have higher PMI than your heavy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Aug 26 2013, 02:57
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Aug 26 2013, 02:43) *

@pillow

How did your light have higher PMI than your heavy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


Full power of warding set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 26 2013, 03:58
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Is this thing worth upgrading in The Forge ?
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post Aug 26 2013, 04:16
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It isn't terrible, but you'll probably be replacing it soon. You really want 4 Primary Attributes on one-handed weapons when you item world them. The Attack Damage Bonus on that axe isn't bad, but all other stats are far below max. 4 PABs causes one-handed weapons to get a guaranteed lvl 5 swift strike or butcher when maxed, which are the ones you want.

Even if you do want to upgrade it, don't put cold spell damage on it. It literally does nothing for something with a melee playstyle.
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post Aug 26 2013, 05:02
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It isn't terrible, but you'll probably be replacing it soon. You really want 4 Primary Attributes on one-handed weapons when you item world them. The Attack Damage Bonus on that axe isn't bad, but all other stats are far below max. 4 PABs causes one-handed weapons to get a guaranteed lvl 5 swift strike or butcher when maxed, which are the ones you want.

Indeed, that was a nice damage. But for rule of thumb, you want at least equipment of magnificent quality to justify the cost. You can't have all-round nice stat without magnificent or legendary anyway. Exquisite ones usually good on one, but lacking at other. Check equipment range wiki page to understand what we talk about.


QUOTE(LittleSweetLoli @ Aug 25 2013, 19:35) *

Done except shadow veil - it help me survive RoB.

True if you're blocking is still lacking, you will need evade to survive. There was this guy who got 50% blocking chance, 50% parry chance, and 75% chance to counter. He was a counter machine!! Check few pages earlier, I think his name is Tazmanian.


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Well, I changed whole EQ many times to get it better and I end up here. I got few times Etheral stuff and Exquisite stuff I got only twice in whole game and I... sold it. It was not worth keeping for me since it was Cloth Armor and Staff that I not use since I'm melee.

I don't believe ethereal and elemental weapon is worse than vanilla of the same quality. With prefixed weapon you got second strike after each of your main attack, be it elemental or void strike. Think about it as extra 50% damage.


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That's why I asked if my stats are good for DW. I don't mind creating additional EQ set for DW fighting but rather it may be hard to get good EQ. As you probably noticed, I tried DW but it won't goes well that time.

By your screenshot, you only has 5 DW proficiency compared to 187 1H proficiency. It won't go well this time either! You will lose quite some damage bonus, and perhaps speed bonus, etc. And the most important, you now only have first tier skill: Iris strike. However, if you brave yourself to get proficiency more than 100 on DW, They will start to feel comparable.



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I'd say, your fighting style is curious. You are a melee who actively cast offensive spell. I think with elemental proficiency like yours and intelligent stat that enormous, they became quite a major destructive power. But I believe it wasn't optimum. With your current set, you got so much interference you need much more mana to attack. I really wish future HentaiVerse allow this kind of hybrid fighting style instead of currently rigid categorization. I imagine a player who can evade or parry 90% of the time and can easily cast multitude of spells before striking with chained critical hits. But it was impossible today.

Currently you can only opt to fight in five given style; elemental mage, holy-dark mage, one-hand, two-hand, and dual wield (forgive me if I miss something). Each has it's own optimization, which not quite the same with the other. For DW, you want strength, endurance, dexterity at the highest level while agility and wisdom not far behind. For 1H, I think dexterity and agility is less important, but endurance must got whole extra bump. About intelligent, you can forget about it until you feel your spirit tank is too low.
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post Aug 26 2013, 05:36
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@LittleSweetLoli I could not give advice for this because everyone already mention it. Hope you could become better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
But I also think You making a really waste move like using offensive spell.But if you want to become a mage then you not actually wrong.

@nobody_xxx Damn it. After got alot time to think and speen a little time on WTS.100M is alot.it's really difficult to become god tier mage.Expecially with my current situation who play it for fun.
actually the problem lie on my free time to play HV.It's extremily difficult for me.
Got no choise except play it slowly and collect some better equip little by little. T-T

@clarkiest i don't know for other but a lot of ppl maybe also like that because don't know this forum and WTS. i also never open g.e-hentai forum until i become 202.It kind really difficult to hunt so i look for more info.And i find this thread.

for expert ppl.i notice he already train power tank.Why i unable to train thoose?

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post Aug 26 2013, 05:50
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For 2H expert please give me your opinion about this problem.
Actually i kinda think, this etereal mace of the illithid is much better than shocking mace of the banshee

Because void srike much better compare to electric but the problem also lie on stun change. shocking mace got more 4% stun change than other one. stat on ethereal mace also lot better and it got no Burden Interference.It's kind of silly to say something like this but on bazaar, shocking mace got higher price. so bazaar think shocking mace is better.

In the end my intution tell me ethereal much much better.
The question is:I'm not wrong right?
or do you have better opinion?

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post Aug 26 2013, 06:13
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@clarkiest i don't know for other but a lot of ppl maybe also like that because don't know this forum and WTS. i also never open g.e-hentai forum until i become 202.It kind really difficult to hunt so i look for more info.And i find this thread.

I always want to know the game mechanic when I start. I can say what game is fun, and what game is not by examining their mechanic. I was asking things sporadically at early level, and promptly dirrected to this place by many. By the way, Total War is awesome game (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Can I brag I play RE on IWBTH since level 80?
I died half of the time then, but I always win now. The experience is too big, I was worried my proficiency didn't catch up so I back playing at normal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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post Aug 26 2013, 06:37
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QUOTE(zanky @ Aug 26 2013, 11:50) *

For 2H expert please give me your opinion about this problem.
Actually i kinda think, this etereal mace of the illithid is much better than shocking mace of the banshee

Because void srike much better compare to electric but the problem also lie on stun change. shocking mace got more 4% stun change than other one. stat on ethereal mace also lot better and it got no Burden Interference.It's kind of silly to say something like this but on bazaar, shocking mace got higher price. so bazaar think shocking mace is better.

In the end my intution tell me ethereal much much better.
The question is:I'm not wrong right?
or do you have better opinion?


generally speaking, ethereal is better...
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post Aug 26 2013, 06:41
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QUOTE(zanky @ Aug 26 2013, 05:50) *

For 2H expert please give me your opinion about this problem.
Actually i kinda think, this etereal mace of the illithid is much better than shocking mace of the banshee

Because void srike much better compare to electric but the problem also lie on stun change. shocking mace got more 4% stun change than other one. stat on ethereal mace also lot better and it got no Burden Interference.It's kind of silly to say something like this but on bazaar, shocking mace got higher price. so bazaar think shocking mace is better.

In the end my intution tell me ethereal much much better.
The question is:I'm not wrong right?
or do you have better opinion?


Not only void strike, but it turns the normal crushing damage to void too. That alone makes up for the Attack Damage bonus and stun duration(4% is not really a gamebreaker (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)). The ethereal mace has better accuracy, strength and dexterity too. So yeah, you're right.

I personally like Illithid better than banshee because of the mana siphon, but that's entirely up to you.
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