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post Aug 23 2013, 12:18
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tree and trio ( lvl 200 arena )

marathons ( lvl 220 above arena )


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post Aug 23 2013, 12:20
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Should I adjust my wisdom? I just followed the advice page on the wiki up til now and just kept the same as my level but I'm wondering maybe I should lower it and put those points on other stats.

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post Aug 23 2013, 12:30
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dang ZZ, don't blow your Top now.

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get it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Okay, many of you don't get it:

It's the band, ZZ Top!

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post Aug 23 2013, 12:30
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QUOTE(otame-chan @ Aug 23 2013, 12:20) *

Should I adjust my wisdom? I just followed the advice page on the wiki up til now and just kept the same as my level but I'm wondering maybe I should lower it and put those points on other stats.

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I like to keep wisdom near equal to my melee stats even if I am a melee fighter since it helps with mp, which i consume a lot of, and resist chance.
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post Aug 23 2013, 12:41
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@nobody XXX thanks man.I got a lot info from you
wait a second.Why it's better to use DW for lvl 220 arena and above.It's faster to use 2h on below that arena right? I'm confuse.Why not just using 2H from above 220?
I mean what the different betwen those?I think it's just the same arena with lot of wave.
@zen zen i'm forgot.I play a lot on nomal to quickly clear all arena because i don't have much free time to play HV in a day
like today.I play all arena on normal because I have my other activity.And free time i got today just enough to clear all arena in normal.

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post Aug 23 2013, 12:49
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QUOTE(zanky @ Aug 23 2013, 02:39) *

Why you angry.Calm your self man...
I play this for fun.If I'm say something "misinformed" Then don't be angry because i also don't know it yet.I play a lot in normal to quickly clear all arena for today and do other stuff.
This is the fact,domino strike help a lot to quickly wipe monster It's true or not?
So using 2H is quicker than DW because Domino strike give upper hand.It's true or not?
So use 2H to clear higher arena will result need less time than DW or 1H.It's true or not?
Because I try this my self to clear with DW and 2H.And it's indeed quicker with 2H.I try tis on normal.Because I usually play a lot in normal just to clear all arena for quickest time.
Sometimes i play on higher lvl to increase my lvl faster.
And I play this only a few month.Around may or June.Because I don't know HV until a a few month pass after i register on g.e-hentai.
You know when i first open HV it got Lvl 10.When i'm doing nothing and I guess my char can become lvl 10 just from exp i got from dawn of new day.
So if i'm make some mistake then Please tell me the truth.Why you must piss off because some silly stuff.
Man you got quick temper over there.


You can choose to play whatever style you want but play it hard. I know it's just a silly little online game but all you are doing is just sleepwalking. Is it really 'fun' playing like that? You are well past Lv200, you are no longer a newb but you still play like one. Solarhawk gave you a sound advise about levelling your PA to improve your gameplay, you disregard the advise altogether but instead focus on his/her equipment set - what did you call them, "Perfect girlfriend for DW and light"? What the heck is that supposed to mean?

People here have given you good advise and had you incorporated any or all of them, you would be playing at higher levels by now.

Yeah man, I am aware of one of many failings in my life is my quick temper...
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post Aug 23 2013, 12:59
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@zen zen What I mean Perfect girlfriend in the phrase "Perfect girlfriend for DW and light"is helmet of sadowdancer
this stuff http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=919f563415.
What else if it's not that helmet of sadowdancer. Because i talking about sadowdancer in at that time.
And if say i'm still playing like newb maybe because i'm only play it for 2-3 month And you know, when I post for the fost time is this
QUOTE(zanky @ Aug 15 2013, 15:28) *

It's effected backstab.You can do more damage with backstab to blinded monster

you could find thos on page 1759
are you angry because i say line "girlfriend" to solarhawk?


And i increase my STAT because i read this
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice#Melee_Stats

If it really fell like this "People here have given you good advise and had you incorporated any or all of them" to you guys over there who involve with me, then I appologize.
I not aware if i say something bad.
I never mean any disrepect or give you offends meaning. And this phrase not directly just to you zen2, it's for all people who involve with me.

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post Aug 23 2013, 13:20
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@ zen_zen and it not I disregard the advise from solarhawk
But I choose damage in my style
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Play_Styles

Errr wait a second i make a mistake right here.I never asked solarhawk

@Solarhawk What style do you use?It's also damage?

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post Aug 23 2013, 13:49
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DW have backstab + FB to deal alot of damage , while 2H lost it skill damage due to great cleave nerf ( well FB get nerf too but still deal alot more damage compare to great cleave ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 23 2013, 14:22
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Aug 23 2013, 11:46) *

DW quicker to clear marathons and RoB (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
2H faster at TT and below , IW and GF (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

And what about 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Aug 23 2013, 14:37
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QUOTE(kserox @ Aug 23 2013, 19:22) *

And what about 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

i never play 1H anymore since lvl 100 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

so i don't know , but i think 1H have the highest durability compare with other style (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 23 2013, 18:34
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Aug 23 2013, 03:30) *

dang ZZ, don't blow your Top now.

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get it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Okay, many of you don't get it:

It's the band, ZZ Top!


I got it already, treesloth. You should change back to your previous avatar, that was funny. The latest one is, meh - bland, generic, run of the mill...
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post Aug 24 2013, 01:02
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How much should I upgrade my monsters? I know I should get Scavenging. Is there other must upgrade?
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post Aug 24 2013, 03:18
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QUOTE(Lelouch vi Britannia @ Aug 23 2013, 19:02) *

How much should I upgrade my monsters? I know I should get Scavenging. Is there other must upgrade?



Scavenging directly affects your return on investment by having a chance to double each gift received. The other chaos ranks will assist your monster in combat, which will get you wins and kills, which contribute to getting more gifts. But straight up scavenging is the most cost-effective way of getting more gifts. All chaos levels, regardless of what they were put into, will help slow morale drain, with morale drain being halved with maxed chaos.
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post Aug 24 2013, 03:20
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QUOTE(Lelouch vi Britannia @ Aug 24 2013, 01:02) *

How much should I upgrade my monsters? I know I should get Scavenging. Is there other must upgrade?

The first 3-4 chaos upgrades are cheap relatively speaking, then the best are gift chance, damage and attack speed. But you should design your monsters to gimp a specific type of play (ie. only getting defensive stats, or having only upgraded the skill attack stat, max resist on one element) if you want.
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post Aug 24 2013, 03:38
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I'm about to make a major gear purchase, since mag prices has fallen to the price exq used to have.

I'm split between staff+elemental cloth, scythe+power heavy or 2h, or scythe+shadowdancer shade

What would be the cheapest route?

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post Aug 24 2013, 03:50
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Aug 24 2013, 03:38) *

I'm about to make a major gear purchase, since mag prices has fallen to the price exq used to have.

I'm split between staff+elemental cloth, scythe+power heavy or 2h, or scythe+shadowdancer shade

What would be the cheapest route?


Staff+Gossamer is the cheapest I think, elemental is not the most popular way of maging. Power of slaughter heavy+scythe is the most expensive if going for near max ADB pieces, non-slaughter heavy should be cheaper or cost almost the same as shadowdancer.
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post Aug 24 2013, 04:08
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Really (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Mag agile shade still expensive , power slaughter , phase , estoc , rapier still expensive too
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post Aug 24 2013, 05:06
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After i think again, I'm really make serious mistake.
How could i post something stupid like that.(About how i prefer damage).

I'm still new about HV.And I reach lvl 202 only with wiki for my reff.And my exp from lvl 10 until lvl 202. Like i explain to zen zen, the first time i know about thread ask the expert is when i around lvl 202. And my first post also in this thread.And like i explain before,i often play on normal.So i have no problem to clear it with my stat who lack end and agi for PMI/MMI.because of that i increase my STR very high.

And I have no knowladge to survive in higher difficulty.
When I think about it again and again, I realize i'm really wrong. Now i'm aware i will get more benefit if i increase my END and AGI more than i have at my previous stat on attachment. I will sacrifice attack damage to gain some PMI/MMI but i can have higher change to survive on higher difficulty. Because higher difficulty means higher reward so it's really worth to change my stat.

But without knowing that i put stupid comment to solarhawk.And after i read my previous comment,I feel like an idiot.

@zen zen You right.I'm still play like some newb
I't embrasing after i realize it

@solarhawk The turth is i never have any disrespect or offense meaning agains you.I don't know lot about HV. Because of that, i could make stupid comment like that.
It's to late to say this but Sorry about that. I hope you not mad or feel negative felling about me.
And Thanks a lot for your advice.It's really help me.Now I decrease my str and put more agi and end.
Also if you don't already know, perfect girlfriend i'm talking before, it's about your shadowdancer equipment.
Because if i'm not wrong again, shadowdancer give more evade and crit rate other shade armor.So it's perfect equipment for DW people.
And please don't mind about this
QUOTE(zanky @ Aug 23 2013, 18:20) *

Errr wait a second i make a mistake right here.I never asked solarhawk

@Solarhawk What style do you use?It's also damage?

I know U use DW and after looking at your stat i guess U use survival.
Like expain in http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Play_Styles

In your image i notice you got lot of attack speed.While i only got 8.8%.It's because you got additional attck speed from equip?

@nobody xxx thanks for a lot advice you gave me.
Altough i still don't know "I" from PMI/MMI.

and for all expert and master.
Sorry about my embrasing post earlier.
Please don't be bored to guide me from now on.
And Thanks for your advice expecially people who give advice to me.

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post Aug 24 2013, 05:08
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I'm still curious about first advice zen zen give me. About i burn my credit to scavanger. And he don't explain more details to me.
But in my opinion, player really need to train scavanger.
Because it's effect drop change.i got 31 now and if in not wrong my drop change now is 62%+10%(base drop). Actually i planning to increase it to lvl 40 so i got 90%. so with 90%.i will got better change to got more stuff from died monster.
After that i'll leave it to upgread other stuff.

Could somebody tell me:
1 is my drop change 72% now? or it just 10%+(72% from base drop)?
2 it's useless to train more scavanger from now on because my scavanger lvl is high enough?
3 I also need artifact drop change more than equipment drop change. If i increase questmaster,Is it lower artifact drop change?
4 or is it better to increase both of it? because in wiki i read artifact drop change and equipment drop change effect each other.
5 Personaly i need more artifact now so is it wise to leave questmaster for a while?or i better not increase questmaster until i really need it.
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