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post Aug 17 2013, 09:40
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QUOTE(zanky @ Aug 17 2013, 15:37) *

what god tier mages?

you need to be mages like danixxx , uno , hito , HTTP to do that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Aug 17 2013, 09:45
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Aug 17 2013, 14:40) *

you need to be mages like danixxx , uno , hito , HTTP to do that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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Can I become god tier mage? I mean i abandone warrior and leveling up any related mage skill?
I planing to also learning magic skill.But not now.Maybe after lvl 300/400.Or If i'm bored.
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post Aug 17 2013, 09:46
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QUOTE(zanky @ Aug 16 2013, 23:41) *

What the heck!!! I never got Magnificent equipment.

This is the one i use now for survival http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4b514c6bf3

And this for quick kill http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=dccc8ea027

edit: and i got those from drop or change in snowflake i never buy my equipment in shop. I need lot of credit for scavenger and Lotd


You are playing with these weapons and you wonder why you cannot play at harder levels beyond Hard or Nightmare? You haven't shown what you wear but if these weapons are any indication, I'd say you are doing well enough loitering in Hard or Nightmare Arena. What good is pouring all your credits into Scavenger and LotD when clearly the drops you are getting now are not up to snuff? All of the Godslayers beyond Lv300 say the best drops come from completing DwD in IWBTH. If you can't even get past Lv40 in IWBTH now, how do you expect to get there with these second rate equipments that you favour?

Well, here's a fine dilemma for you, you are pouring your credits into Scavenger and LotD to ensure best quality drops possible, but since you won't invest in any quality equipments that will let you into the arena where best quality drops are happening, will you always be on the outside looking in? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 17 2013, 09:51
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yeah , why not (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

but , just remind you that mages at your lvl is harder coz alot of limitation especially in depre magic (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

you also need alot of fund to buy them + forge your gear ( or lvl up your mobs army to get mat and binding ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


get economizer lvl4/5 is also pain in the ass for your staff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


but if you can endure it and slowly you maybe can replace HTTP as the best mages/melee in HV (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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post Aug 17 2013, 09:55
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you can get legendary at normal , but you need very high LoTD and very high luck too ( max or near max like ichy and xtech22 since they get leg in normal ) or playing alot of rounds like lement do in previous patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 17 2013, 09:56
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depends on if youre selling mats or planning to use them, because at your level it might be better to sell superior to bazaar instead of forge because the bindings wont come in very quickly and your equips will probably change, unless you want to sell mats in which case i have no idea
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post Aug 17 2013, 10:02
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this my armor
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=46c4b1d986
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e465d7b692
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=dc161a1255
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4096034cdd
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6c0d54cf02

I got lvl 2 depre magic now. If I started to raise those at lvl 250, could it would be more difficult to leveling up?My assimilator still 0.
my henjutsu:
My scavanger is 30 now
Lotd 10
adept leaner 100
ability boost 61
and pack rat 4
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post Aug 17 2013, 10:03
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Aug 17 2013, 00:46) *

You are playing with these weapons and you wonder why you cannot play at harder levels beyond Hard or Nightmare? You haven't shown what you wear but if these weapons are any indication, I'd say you are doing well enough loitering in Hard or Nightmare Arena. What good is pouring all your credits into Scavenger and LotD when clearly the drops you are getting now are not up to snuff? All of the Godslayers beyond Lv300 say the best drops come from completing DwD in IWBTH. If you can't even get past Lv40 in IWBTH now, how do you expect to get there with these second rate equipments that you favour?

Well, here's a fine dilemma for you, you are pouring your credits into Scavenger and LotD to ensure best quality drops possible, but since you won't invest in any quality equipments that will let you into the arena where best quality drops are happening, will you always be on the outside looking in? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


you might be exaggerating a bit there. ANY IWBTH gives good drops and the highest bonuses come from random encounters and last round of arenas. pretty sure DwD is good because i think it has a higher bonus and tons more rounds than lower level arenas, but its definitely not the only place to get good drops

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post Aug 17 2013, 10:07
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@zanky not sure if this has changed but light armor isn't really something that mixes well so try to eventually get all shade or all kevlar and you'll probably need to get used to a mace or DW to up survivability

focus on replacing the head and gauntlets first, those are your weakest

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post Aug 17 2013, 10:14
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QUOTE(nakata545 @ Aug 17 2013, 15:07) *

@zanky not sure if this has changed but light armor isn't really something that mixes well so try to eventually get all shade or all kevlar and you'll probably need to get used to a mace or DW to up survivability

focus on replacing the head and gauntlets first, those are your weakest


When i put all Leather armor, I think it's not really change much.What will i get if i put same type light armor?
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post Aug 17 2013, 10:17
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not any bonuses like all heavy or all cloth but the same types will give the same stats so you can have more evade with shade fleet or more mit with kevlar protection
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post Aug 17 2013, 10:21
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Aug 17 2013, 13:47) *

so what about the magic score required to clear DwD on BT safely?


I did DwD on BT a while back with 10000 magic score, as dark mage. It took about 2hrs, ether tapping alot! Ether tapping almost every chance, I used about 8-9 mana pots.


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post Aug 17 2013, 10:24
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Aug 17 2013, 15:21) *

I did DwD on BT a while back with 10000 magic score, as dark mage. It took about 2hrs, ether tapping alot!

your old avatar is better than this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)



why did you clear it longer than me even though you are mages & BT difficulty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

you supposed to clear it faster since you are mages and have mag demonic katalox (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Aug 17 2013, 10:33
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Thanks everybody. Now I back to Hunting

Note:About armor I only got complete set leather type light armor. And I think i don't get any additional bonus when i use it.I just think if the type is light armor then it's does'n matter if i combine it with shade light armor.

By the way I lvling up scavanger because it effect drop change.now got 30 so i have 64% drop change.If i'm not wrong.
What the point if i only have a bit.Like 10 lvl in scavanger. It only got 24% drop change.

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post Aug 17 2013, 10:36
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nobody_xxx/zanky: Getting economizer 5 is easy compared to, say, getting 250 phazons and thousands of HG Cloth. But you don't need to be fully forged on both phase and staff to complete DWD. Anyway, I'd recommend to wait until 310 before maging, due triple, no-CD imperil.

Anyway, visit wolfgirl. As for using only superior equips, fahentai is known advocate for using exq to vanillla mag and forging that, as it will cost less for same output in damage up to certain point than throwing 5+mil more on mag or even leg.

As for armor prof bonus, need abilities to be set for that one.

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post Aug 17 2013, 10:42
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Aug 17 2013, 17:24) *

your old avatar is better than this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
why did you clear it longer than me even though you are mages & BT difficulty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

you supposed to clear it faster since you are mages and have mag demonic katalox (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


What's wrong with my new avatar?

I did the BT DwD with POS pants and gloves. I got better gear now... I'm also not using the mag demonic katalox to do schoolgirl marathons; I can't get Economizers... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Aug 17 2013, 10:45
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what Economizers. it's skill or item?
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post Aug 17 2013, 10:54
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what Economizers. it's skill or item?


I'm using this POS to do schoolgirl marathons. Notice it has level 5 economizer. It reduces mana costs by 5% for each level, for a total of 25%, which is quite alot. You have to go through IW to get Economizer, which is a potency; the others for staff is archmage, endurance, and agility.
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post Aug 17 2013, 11:05
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QUOTE(zanky @ Aug 17 2013, 01:02) *

this my armor
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=46c4b1d986
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e465d7b692
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=dc161a1255
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4096034cdd
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6c0d54cf02

I got lvl 2 depre magic now. If I started to raise those at lvl 250, could it would be more difficult to leveling up?My assimilator still 0.
my henjutsu:
My scavanger is 30 now
Lotd 10
adept leaner 100
ability boost 61
and pack rat 4
everyting else 0


Deprecating magic: Read the wiki. Many people advise grinding it at 250 just because you can have 0 cooldown on weaken then, and get it much faster. You don't need assimilator to do it.

Training: Again, Read the wiki. Keep in mind that training costs a significant amount, and you might be better served by holding off on some training to save your money so that you can afford some upgrades to armor. If you can play at a higher difficulty, you'll raise your drop roll bonuses from that. Aside from that aspect:

QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 18 2013, 03:31) *


- Playing a large number of rounds at lower difficulties will now reduce the monster drop rate for a period of time.
-- It starts kicking in after 1000 rounds and reaches max effect after 2000 rounds. The reduction caps at 75% for Normal, 50% for Hard and 25% for Nightmare. Hell and above has no drop reduction.
-- The round counter cools down at a rate of 1 per minute (out of combat only).


^^ This means you're decreasing your overall, global drop rate by playing at lower difficulties. Even when you're playing IWBTH, it'll be decreased if you've hit these marks.

Also, PAB balancing might be part of why you can't do harder difficulties. The wiki on this particular issue is slightly outdated, due to INT no longer giving any benefit to melee except adding to SP, as well as STR no longer adding health. Go back say 2-3 weeks worth in this thread for some examples of what is recommended aside from the baseline wiki start point.

QUOTE(nakata545 @ Aug 17 2013, 01:07) *

@zanky not sure if this has changed but light armor isn't really something that mixes well so try to eventually get all shade or all kevlar and you'll probably need to get used to a mace or DW to up survivability

focus on replacing the head and gauntlets first, those are your weakest


Actually, no. You can mix and match light armor just fine, and until you're high enough level to survive it properly (300+ generally), you're best NOT to go full shade. Evade from equipment does not scale much, so you get most of your evade from PABs. Since shade armor has lower PMI, you rely on evading for your defense.

Head and gauntlets are actually the only pieces of armor that have endurance, which gives health, PMI, and MMI. Generally speaking, most leather pieces you're going to want to have protection suffix. If you have a specific mitigation type suffix, you want to have it be the one that compensates for the armor type's weakness; light armor is weakest in piercing so you want deflection (shade has NONE), and heavy armor is weakest in crushing so you want dampening.

Kevlar: read the most recent Release Notes. It's obsolete now, and the current dropping leather has (most of) the strengths of both the old kevlar and old leather. Marvin uses dual axes, and does fine as well. You don't need a mace or club to stun, though it does help. If you are going to use a crushing weapon, you want it to be ethereal because giants specifically have high mitigation to crushing and hit hard, as do dragons. See the WIKI for more info.


Finally, as many of the folks have stated before, if you're going to say "I'm not sure" about something, you're probably better off not answering the question and letting someone else answer it. Generally speaking, the Grandmasters are those who are level 300+, and have tried a variety of things, hashing out what works and what doesn't. I've only been chiming in recently about things where it's been answered before and/or referenced to either the wiki or release notes or something else Tenboro has posted, because there really AREN'T a ton of grandmasters, and they're not here in this thread 100% of the time.
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post Aug 17 2013, 11:17
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So, after 1 year and 5m credit of fapping, I'm at the point where I have to farm credits. Apparently my gears are now obsolete (check my sig), and I struggled with 40 rounds of arena on Hell difficulty. What would be the fastest way, with reasonable cost, to get back on my feet? I used to be 2h heavy, would going light, or even switching to mage make my HV life easier?

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