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post Aug 12 2013, 08:21
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Aug 12 2013, 13:09) *

probably 200k
EDs are kinda like booze


i need around 12 art to get 1 ED now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Aug 12 2013, 08:38
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Well, in regards to my previous question whether I should take on FSM on IWBTH... well, I only have 7 battle items, one scroll, one infusion slot. DW light armor, and today I got my 5th token of blood, so I went for it.

Yeah, bad idea. For the record, FSM at level 220 has just over 4.5 million health, and each schoolgirl has about 1.2-1.5 million as well.

Luckily, etothex's advice to sleep and weaken worked well enough, plus being smart about using channeling.

529 15 You gain 150000 Credits!
529 14 You gain 1181478 EXP!
529 13 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
529 12 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Blood]
529 11 Arena Clear Bonus! [Fine Phase Pants of Heimdall]
529 10 Ryouko Asakura dropped [Hinamatsuri Doll]
529 9 Mikuru Asahina dropped [Bunny-Girl Costume]
529 8 Yuki Nagato dropped [Broken Glasses]
529 7 Flying Spaghetti Monster dropped [Noodly Appendage]
529 6 You are Victorious!
529 5 Cooldown expired for Weaken
529 4 Flying Spaghetti Monster has been defeated.
529 3 Void Strike hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 1355 void damage.
529 2 Holy Strike hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 1286 holy damage.
529 1 You hit Flying Spaghetti Monster for 2382 void damage.

FIVE HUNDRED TWENTY NINE omg.

Oh, and I used 2x Infusion of Divinity on each weapon for 30 minutes. Barely enough... but I made it. So, thanks for you grandmasters and your advice on how to tackle this guy. He certainly made me work for my tasty noodle.

Superior Leather Gauntlets of Protection Gee, thanks Snowflake. I got better stuff from the sapling I gave you 30 seconds before that.

Oh well, mission accomplished, I definitely know what to do differently next time! (Not much, but stuff like remembering spirit shield much earlier in the fight would be smart)
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post Aug 12 2013, 08:57
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FSM used to take thousands of rounds back when you did shit damage and had to kill it with PA & Poison.
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post Aug 12 2013, 08:58
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QUOTE(Solarhawk @ Aug 12 2013, 08:38) *

Gee, thanks Snowflake. I got better stuff from the sapling I gave you 30 seconds before that.

Oh well, mission accomplished, I definitely know what to do differently next time! (Not much, but stuff like remembering spirit shield much earlier in the fight would be smart)


That's why you sell it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 12 2013, 09:22
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godly holy mages like uno or HTTP can kill IWBTH FSM less than 60 turns , i think (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 12 2013, 09:27
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QUOTE(Solarhawk @ Aug 11 2013, 20:38) *


FIVE HUNDRED TWENTY NINE omg.



Took me 620 as a mage.
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post Aug 12 2013, 09:40
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>Be careful of ban streak of some people using IW-ing bugs

What's this about?

Congrats Solarhawk, I did it the safe way; normal to get the first clearance bonus, patiently waiting for the Blood tokens to drop (1/5) to try in IWBTH.

If I don't count the trophies, will I be able to break even doing it in IWBTH?
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post Aug 12 2013, 09:46
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Aug 12 2013, 09:40) *

>Be careful of ban streak of some people using IW-ing bugs

What's this about?

Congrats Solarhawk, I did it the safe way; normal to get the first clearance bonus, patiently waiting for the Blood tokens to drop (1/5) to try in IWBTH.

If I don't count the trophies, will I be able to break even doing it in IWBTH?


I can't see how you wouldn't break even, unless you use tons of god scrolls and infusions..
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post Aug 12 2013, 09:48
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Aug 12 2013, 00:40) *

>Be careful of ban streak of some people using IW-ing bugs

What's this about?

Congrats Solarhawk, I did it the safe way; normal to get the first clearance bonus, patiently waiting for the Blood tokens to drop (1/5) to try in IWBTH.

If I don't count the trophies, will I be able to break even doing it in IWBTH?


Some people discovered an exploit that allowed them to obtain specific armor potencies. They had their affected shit confiscated, but I haven't heard of any trips to the Moon being handed out. Maybe there was another issue.
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post Aug 12 2013, 12:16
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noob question.. just started a day ago, elemental mage build atm.. should I use a shield? if so what kind so I go after first. As for cloth armor using *of elementalist*
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post Aug 12 2013, 12:28
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Questions:

1 What's the differencce between Counter-Resist and Anti-resist?

2 And how does the counter-resist bonus gained from prof work with the counter-resist bonus from equipment?

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post Aug 12 2013, 12:44
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QUOTE(gc00018 @ Aug 12 2013, 18:28) *

Questions:

1 What's the differencce between Counter-Resist and Anti-resist?

2 And how does the counter-resist bonus gained from prof work with the counter-resist bonus from equipment?

THX~ (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


i believe one is for monsters and the other is for players... i.e. essentially they are the same thing.

either that or it is simply counter-anti-resist / anti-counter-resist... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Aug 12 2013, 13:12
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QUOTE(narbie @ Aug 12 2013, 03:16) *

noob question.. just started a day ago, elemental mage build atm.. should I use a shield? if so what kind so I go after first. As for cloth armor using *of elementalist*


Staves are two-handed, so you can't wear a shield.

As for armor, try assembling a suit of phase, all ideally with the same suffix. It shouldn't really matter which element you pick at your level. Aim for Fair~Superior quality pieces that have both Intelligence and Wisdom primary attribute bonuses. Sift through the free shops in the WTS section.
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post Aug 12 2013, 13:38
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QUOTE(n125 @ Aug 12 2013, 21:12) *

Staves are two-handed, so you can't wear a shield.

As for armor, try assembling a suit of phase, all ideally with the same suffix. It shouldn't really matter which element you pick at your level. Aim for Fair~Superior quality pieces that have both Intelligence and Wisdom primary attribute bonuses. Sift through the free shops in the WTS section.

Eh, shouldn't he be wearing gossamer first and switch to phase when his base proficiency's are respectable around lvl 100-150?
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post Aug 12 2013, 13:44
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Thanks n125, also what's a good difficulty?
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post Aug 12 2013, 14:17
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Aug 12 2013, 04:38) *

Eh, shouldn't he be wearing gossamer first and switch to phase when his base proficiency's are respectable around lvl 100-150?


That would have been my go-to advice prior to 0.76, but now proficiency doesn't contribute directly to damage like it did in the past. Proficiency bonuses like Counter-Resist and Mana cost reduction can be handled by using the appropriate staff. The main question is whether he'd get enough specific mitigation reduction to outweigh or match the damage from stacking EDB through phase. I'll admit I could be completely off on this.

QUOTE(narbie @ Aug 12 2013, 04:44) *

Thanks n125, also what's a good difficulty?


Start out with Normal or Hard and then move up when you think you can handle it.
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post Aug 12 2013, 16:04
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n125: He'd need legendary gossamer to match average phase IF he has his prof = level.

In other words, the first 1 to 3 pieces of gossamer will not even give him any improvement at all over cotton, nor unlock any spells.
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post Aug 12 2013, 16:10
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so gossamer only good for very high lvl mages now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Aug 12 2013, 17:28
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In a monster that is weak against holy (i.e. Schoolgirls, FSM), the ability Holy Imperil increase this weakness even more? (...this could help a Hallowed melee weapon?)
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post Aug 12 2013, 18:46
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Aug 12 2013, 22:10) *

so gossamer only good for very high lvl mages now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


i doubt so... cos i don't seem to recall any high level mages using any gossamer.
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