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post Jul 26 2013, 14:56
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hello, Its the owl again. *woot*

I am here to ask some questions about equipment and multi elemental weapon.

I was lucky to get some mag plate armors, but I was wondering if I should focus on increasing atk dmg. For reference, I am thinking of which one will help me in higher level and difficulty. So, can somebody compare them?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=dc00a9dac7
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3d55122d2e

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=996f59cd34
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6e1d4c9c7b

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6751a3e6f5
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=eb9ac9b30d

Also, I saw ppl lvling weapons that have similar quality to mine. Only difference between mine and their is elemental strikes. They have some sort of elemental dmg(dark, elec, holy, etc), but I don't.

I want to know if having two elemental is about hitting enemy their weak point, or it will hit enemy twice with each elemental.
Oh, and are elemental physical or magical dmg?

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post Jul 26 2013, 16:21
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QUOTE(walkleft @ Jul 26 2013, 21:56) *

hello, Its the owl again. *woot*

I am here to ask some questions about equipment and multi elemental weapon.

I was lucky to get some mag plate armors, but I was wondering if I should focus on increasing atk dmg. For reference, I am thinking of which one will help me in higher level and difficulty. So, can somebody compare them?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=dc00a9dac7
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3d55122d2e

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=996f59cd34
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6e1d4c9c7b

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6751a3e6f5
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=eb9ac9b30d

Also, I saw ppl lvling weapons that have similar quality to mine. Only difference between mine and their is elemental strikes. They have some sort of elemental dmg(dark, elec, holy, etc), but I don't.

I want to know if having two elemental is about hitting enemy their weak point, or it will hit enemy twice with each elemental.
Oh, and are elemental physical or magical dmg?


Hmmm, what difficulty are you playing at? If you are playing lower difficulties, then the power gears might be okay to use. If you are playing higher difficulties, you should try to get Exq or Mag plate of Protection, not warding. Since you will be using plates, you have to increase your attack damage via weapons. Alternatively, you can mix and match power/plate. Do you 2H or DW?
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post Jul 26 2013, 16:49
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jul 26 2013, 07:21) *

Hmmm, what difficulty are you playing at? If you are playing lower difficulties, then the power gears might be okay to use. If you are playing higher difficulties, you should try to get Exq or Mag plate of Protection, not warding. Since you will be using plates, you have to increase your attack damage via weapons. Alternatively, you can mix and match power/plate. Do you 2H or DW?


Using 2H and trying to challenge high difficulty. My other equip are all power. I know I should go for protection, but I am trying to use whatever I have right now.
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post Jul 26 2013, 17:13
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For now i'm playing quite fine with battlecaster rapier/buckler and cloth armor and using spells extensively. On higher lvls/difficulties is 1h+shield and cloth armor viable, or should I change either weapon or or armor?

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post Jul 26 2013, 17:25
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QUOTE(walkleft @ Jul 26 2013, 23:49) *

Using 2H and trying to challenge high difficulty. My other equip are all power. I know I should go for protection, but I am trying to use whatever I have right now.


With 2H you need more defense, so I guess plate is okay. Well, even power is okay. Whatever floats your boat. Check your PMI. What weapon you got?

QUOTE(Sorokaput @ Jul 27 2013, 00:13) *

For now i'm playing quite fine with battlecaster rapier/buckler and cloth armor and using spells extensively. On higher lvls/difficulties is 1h+shield and cloth armor viable, or should I change either weapon or or armor?


If you want to be casting spells you should be using staff and cloth armor. If you are 1H'ing, you should use melee armor: light or heavy.

edit: the battlecaster suffix does not mean you should cast spells... rather it is to decrease your mana cost, which is higher than 100% due to interference of your equipment/gear.

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post Jul 26 2013, 18:08
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And for future planning - assuming light armor and shield - what is the best ethereal 1h weapon? Rapier should be quite bad, taking in account that it's proc is meaningless with void damage.
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post Jul 26 2013, 18:12
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QUOTE(Sorokaput @ Jul 26 2013, 16:08) *

And for future planning - assuming light armor and shield - what is the best ethereal 1h weapon? Rapier should be quite bad, taking in account that it's proc is meaningless with void damage.

actually void doesn't ignore physical mitigation, it's just another type of damage that doesn't have a specific mitigation against (unlike piercing/crushing/slashing).

i'd suggest a good axe or a good rapier anyway (definitely rapier if you play high difficulties, but at your level better use an axe).

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post Jul 26 2013, 18:17
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Jul 26 2013, 20:12) *

actually void doesn't ignore physical mitigation, it's just another type of damage that doesn't have a specific mitigation against (unlike piercing/crushing/slashing).


oh, looks like i have misinterpreted wiki information. Well, I will be aiming for rapier then.
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post Jul 26 2013, 18:28
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QUOTE(Sorokaput @ Jul 26 2013, 16:17) *

oh, looks like i have misinterpreted wiki information. Well, I will be aiming for rapier then.

actually at your level an axe would be better since it's the weapon with the highest damage and bleed and monsters don't have much mitigation at your level to make PA worthwhile.
(also i don't hink that one handed is the wisest choice for your fighting style, i suggest you go for 2h or 2w or both)

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post Jul 26 2013, 19:10
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QUOTE(Marvin666 @ Jul 26 2013, 05:54) *

This is the one I'd be selling, but not for sure if I'm gonna keep it or not. Getting rid of it will cut my bleed- 35% 4 turns effective to 23% 3 turns :T


That's a very nice axe but this is the first time seeing a Mag equipment with a lower level value than an Exq equipment. Short of growing another arm you won't be able to keep everything (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) but then hopefully the replacement equipment for it will compensate or even surpass this axe's capabilities.
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post Jul 26 2013, 19:50
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Jul 26 2013, 20:28) *

actually at your level an axe would be better since it's the weapon with the highest damage and bleed and monsters don't have much mitigation at your level to make PA worthwhile.
(also i don't hink that one handed is the wisest choice for your fighting style, i suggest you go for 2h or 2w or both)

Should i try to train with 2h and dw and then switch to niten if i want to use light armor and do not have a ton of interference?
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post Jul 26 2013, 20:11
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DW with light armor and main hand axe is what I've used forever. One of these days I may buy a decent scythe and give it a try.
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post Jul 26 2013, 20:35
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QUOTE(Sorokaput @ Jul 26 2013, 23:08) *

And for future planning - assuming light armor and shield - what is the best ethereal 1h weapon? Rapier should be quite bad, taking in account that it's proc is meaningless with void damage.

that depend on difficulty you playing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

if just hell below , use axe for 1H but if you aiming for BT/IWBTH than use rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Jul 26 2013, 23:10
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post Jul 27 2013, 01:30
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QUOTE(walkleft @ Jul 26 2013, 15:56) *

Also, I saw ppl lvling weapons that have similar quality to mine. Only difference between mine and their is elemental strikes. They have some sort of elemental dmg(dark, elec, holy, etc), but I don't.

Wiki seems insufficient in this regard. Anyway, elemental strikes(of any of the 6 elements) provide 50% bonus physical damage on the main target of your attack, modified by resistance. Holy+Dark averages out to about 30% resistance, so main target gets 1.7* damage. Void weapons(hollowforged and ethereal) also get the void strike, which is, as you might guess, unmitigated, so another 0.5 damage for total of 2.2* main target damage. Significant for 2h- but other targets getting void to the face is more significant, but huge for DW/1H. Infusions are cheap though, so if you don't mind using them you can do fine with vanilla weapon.

QUOTE(Sorokaput @ Jul 26 2013, 18:13) *

For now i'm playing quite fine with battlecaster rapier/buckler and cloth armor and using spells extensively. On higher lvls/difficulties is 1h+shield and cloth armor viable, or should I change either weapon or or armor?



QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jul 26 2013, 18:25) *

If you want to be casting spells you should be using staff and cloth armor. If you are 1H'ing, you should use melee armor: light or heavy.

Only heavy armor works for 1H: the evade is checked before parry and block, and thus majorly rains on the parade of counters. Plus, Shielding Plate has block, providing both offense and defense.


QUOTE(Sorokaput @ Jul 26 2013, 20:50) *

Should i try to train with 2h and dw and then switch to niten if i want to use light armor and do not have a ton of interference?

If you want to only do arenas, niten is quite good, but you indeed need 2h and DW prof to make it work. As for interferences, unless your weapons are ethereal niten isn't the best - the katana is on-par with scythe for worst 2h in terms of burden and interference, and Wakis, though they weight little, still add a bit.
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post Jul 27 2013, 01:46
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I accidentaly'd the wrong thread.

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post Jul 27 2013, 02:20
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I've been trying to clear the >lvl50 Arena challenges on Nintendo or higher, not having much luck. When there are 7-10 monsters on the field, they just seem to do too much burst/spell damage for me to keep healing. Any advice regarding that?

I'm using a mace with a mix of heavy plate and power armor.

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increase your damage & PMI (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 27 2013, 03:51
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Jul 27 2013, 08:20) *

I've been trying to clear the >lvl50 Arena challenges on Nintendo or higher, not having much luck. When there are 7-10 monsters on the field, they just seem to do too much burst/spell damage for me to keep healing. Any advice regarding that?

I'm using a mace with a mix of heavy plate and power armor.

You could:
1. Spam silence
2. Use Absorb or Spirit Shield
3. Use Spirit Stance frequently to kill them as quick as possible before their could max their MP/SP. (Prioritize the high-level mobs listed in Monster Lab Bestiary)
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post Jul 27 2013, 08:01
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perhaps the stun on your mace is too low...
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