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Jul 2 2013, 07:20
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Nightwishman
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Noodles are like crack, I got a pair of the best non-protection heavy plate greaves possibly ever...and then nothing good other then that out of like 20 noodles. *but dont listen to me, I dont even play anymore.
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Jul 2 2013, 09:45
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hentai_fusion
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QUOTE(Drawde @ Jul 2 2013, 10:59)  How viable would using a battlecaster one-hander and shield be for a mage, versus a staff?
all BC gear lack EDB. the current generation of BC gear lack MDB so it is not really viable. the previous generation of BC has MDB but is not as good as the range of staff MDB. they also come with interference. damage is still king for mages.
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Jul 2 2013, 20:30
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xmagus
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jul 2 2013, 17:45)  all BC gear lack EDB.
the current generation of BC gear lack MDB so it is not really viable.
the previous generation of BC has MDB but is not as good as the range of staff MDB. they also come with interference.
damage is still king for mages.
And yet... if you speak of viability in Arenas, it's still possible. It won't be pretty, though. @Slobber: Yeah... where's the 3rd hand come from? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Also, is there a term for when you get your first 2H Legendary Ethereal weapon drop... ... and it's a damned Longsword of Balance?
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Jul 2 2013, 23:41
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PK678353
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Drawde @ Jul 1 2013, 21:59)  How viable would using a battlecaster one-hander and shield be for a mage, versus a staff?
It's not a particularly good idea. BC 1H + Shield will give you better MC on paper, but you lose the Coalesced Mana Proc. The greatly reduced damage will also increase the number of spells needed to kill each mob, which greatly degrades your mana efficiency. You gain some survivability, but you will lose enormous amounts of damage, which will likely counteract that and more since you'll be facing the entire round for longer. Unequipping my staff drops my cold score by something like 45% (and that's before factoring in the loss of prof), and . . . well. . . <ChosenUno> half damage on mage is like normal -> IWBTH You could certainly do Arenas and such in it, but far, far from optimal. BC and Arcanist gear just isn't ever going to compete with real mage equips for actually being a mage. This post has been edited by PK678353: Jul 2 2013, 23:45
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Jul 3 2013, 00:43
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treesloth
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Joined: 6-January 13

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QUOTE(n125 @ Jul 2 2013, 14:16)  QUOTE(Slobber @ Jul 3 2013, 01:14)  Staff+Shield bearing mages c'mon! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Can you imagine if I had staff in one hand and ethereal dagger of battlecaster in OH? Mana cost would be like 50%! Tenboro should do it! And yes, I think mage is still king in the HV. Like ahenayau said, heavy needs to be seriously buffed. I think it might even be the worst, in terms of kill speed and mana cost when compared to mage and light. And mage has awesome survivability now. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.
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Jul 3 2013, 01:35
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Yuuki17
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jul 2 2013, 16:43)  And yes, I think mage is still king in the HV. Like ahenayau said, heavy needs to be seriously buffed. I think it might even be the worst, in terms of kill speed and mana cost when compared to mage and light.
The basic essence of heavy armors is to trade your speed for defense is it not? I don't know how play-styles compare to one another though.
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Jul 3 2013, 02:09
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e-Stark
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So... Can I Assume... Mage > Light > Heavy ? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Actually I'm playing with a DW Light-Armor... (I like to kill things fast)... But, ever wanted a Mage... It would be awesome if we could have more than one gear at a time... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Jul 3 2013, 02:32
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treesloth
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Well, don't take what I say to be fact. The point is, I have unforged Leg Power of Prot and somewhat forged Ethereal estoc. But I would rather play with my unforged mostly exquisite phase of fenrir (but well forged staff); as mage I spend less time for rounds, if I'm careful I can recoup a bunch of mana and can play for many rounds, and I can play IWTBH now (where I could not pre-0.76).
It might be different for players with forged Leg Power of Slaughter and Leg ethereal Estocs, so I don't speak for them. But it just seems odd to me that gameplay is better with exquisite mage stuff than Leg Prot Power. I don't think mage or light needs to be nerfed; I think heavy needs to be buffed considerably.
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Jul 3 2013, 02:57
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Slobber
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Shields. Bucklers only! It makes sense if they're the type of shields that get bound to the arm or whatever. Kinda like armlets or something? Fuck Gandalf wannabe-ing. Shields are where it's at! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Power of Slaughter is probably less protective than Shade of Fleet/SD right now because Shade AGI+END+pmi+evade are respectable while Power not so much. Power has way higher offensive power though (huge STR+DEX+ADB). So ironically, the Heavy Armor is the more aggressive of the two in this comparison.
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Jul 3 2013, 03:34
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Lunarika
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I just got a token of blood. How hard is the Konata fight at my current level and what difficulty could I get away with fighting her at, or should I just save the token for a different fight?
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Jul 3 2013, 03:47
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n125
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QUOTE(Lunarika @ Jul 2 2013, 18:34)  I just got a token of blood. How hard is the Konata fight at my current level and what difficulty could I get away with fighting her at, or should I just save the token for a different fight?
All of that depends on the equipment you use and the abilities you have, so no one can really answer that based on what you wrote. I recommend that you fight her on Normal for the clear bonus, and then never again. Cast Spark of Life, Shadow Veil, Haste, and possibly Protection; and Weaken, Imperil, and Silence on her. If you don't have all of those spells, then just cast what you can. If you can't cast Spark of Life, then you should take a few Scrolls of Life or Scrolls of the Gods with you. The schoolgirls aren't difficult, but their SP attacks can kill you in one hit at low levels, so you need to prepare for that. If you're a melee, then you'll want the ability to proc Penetrated Armor. An ethereal weapon will also help a lot, so use a Voidseeker shard if you don't have one.
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Jul 3 2013, 04:09
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Lunarika
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Just fought her. She kinda got smashed really hard. Thanks for the advice though. Her SP attack ended up missing though, possibly due to Iris Strike? What do people do with their tokens at endgame? Just save them for that last fight on the list?
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Jul 3 2013, 04:18
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xmagus
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Joined: 16-July 12

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QUOTE(Lunarika @ Jul 3 2013, 12:09)  Just fought her. She kinda got smashed really hard. Thanks for the advice though. Her SP attack ended up missing though, possibly due to Iris Strike? What do people do with their tokens at endgame? Just save them for that last fight on the list?
Generally, yes. Either FSM alone or 3T - it rather depends on whether you consider the rewards of 2 Noodles (and an additional guaranteed 1k credits) better than 1 Noodle, 1 Tee, 1 Horn + whatever assorted stuff drops from the rest.
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Jul 3 2013, 05:28
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etothex
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heavy's fine. its selling point is survivability, and the ability to not pay as much attention and not suffer for it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif). Honestly its the fighting styles that need tweaking, and procs. Any High level scythe users? Could use some tips. I finally IWed my legendary scythe, so was playing with it. Hell IW took me same amount of time as with my mag Estoc, but arenas are slightly faster (proc = dead on mob's turn, instead of having to hit it again w/ estoc). Doing REs though can kinda see that estoc is way superior in IWBTH. But then I realized now how much attack speed + bleed sucks. I thinks bleed's much worse for DW though. I use axe main hand, proc bleed on 1 guy, go to finish off other guy, and cuz of action speed, the 1st guy's not dead yet when i've finished off the 2nd. So end up wasting more turns / SP having to finish the stragglers off. Also bleed from 2hand is much higher, so i get thrown off cuz when i see a sliver of health left, the scythe's bleed will definitely finish off the mob, but OH/ DW bleed often doesn't. 5 stacks is just too unfriendly too, and pretty useless in DW / OH. If it was 3 stacks, it'd be better, or maybe something like crit automatically applying full stacks. At least bleed for one handed vs 2 handed needs to be changed for some balance.
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Jul 3 2013, 05:37
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ossim2371
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I haven't found any Ethereal Maces of Slaughter, so I'm stuck with an Exquisite Ethereal Scythe and a Superior Ethereal Estoc. Any Maces I find tend to have their prices shot through the roof, and it doesn't help that credits are hard to come by, considering I've beaten every RoB challenge besides Triple Trio and the Tree (so I get no extra credits from the Invisible Pink Unicorn).
This post has been edited by ossim2371: Jul 3 2013, 05:38
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Jul 3 2013, 05:46
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Lunarika
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What equipment suffixes do mages usually look for? Focus/Destruction on weapon, and stacking the same type of element on the armor, or "of the elementalist" for armors?
At the moment, still undecided on whether I want to continue dualweilding or become a mage. Worst case scenario, I still have all of my dualweilding gear anyways.
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