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post Jun 29 2013, 13:03
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Usually, what do you do with "poor" equipments/weapons? (Crude, Fair, Average, Fine)

Sell them to System Shop? Salvage? Sell to other Players?

It seems that people don't want to buy this type of equipment... or am I wrong?


Also, how to evaluate my equipments to sell them at a fair price?

Thanks in advance...
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post Jun 29 2013, 14:20
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Mostly, sell to bazaar, although some average-fine phases&estocs and rarely power of slaughter can be sellable to players.

For values, see my post here.
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post Jun 29 2013, 15:09
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How often do you get something decent from Snowflake for noodles?
They are quite costly so I was always thinking that I could get some decent gear by shrining them, but I never got even one mag, and my LotD is 12/25.
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post Jun 29 2013, 15:35
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QUOTE(m118w11 @ Jun 29 2013, 12:50) *

Nope, all resists/parry/block/evades are added multiplicative. So if you have 2 pieces with 20%, you get 36% [1-(1-20%)*(1-20%)], not 40%. You can however get really high values of these stats so most of the spells/attacks don't hit you.

QUOTE(Lement @ Jun 29 2013, 18:32) *

No.

Not possible. Parry/resist require 2500 DEX/WIS for 100%. Same for evade and AGI.

However, resist....with 1000 WIS and max forged legmax negation pieces @500, you can get 92,169932572969% resist. Using a maxed absorb on top of that gives you 99.216993257297% resist, but hey, maxed absorb is 90% by itself.

Although 2h prof gives parry no other equipment other than weapons give it, so the result is lower.

Still, with 500 2h prof, 1000 DEX and Niten with nimble rapier you could reach 71,83329535% parry.

Of course, monsters still have anti-avoidance....

OK, I stand corrected. Sorry.

My questions:
1. It looks to me the max. level of potency gained is 5. Correct? I have yet to see to a Lvl6 Swift Strike/Butcher.
2. "MagNet - A net of pure energy ensnares the target, (slowing it by 25%) and making it unable to evade attacks or spells". That's useful, right? Is this a spell that you guys regular use?
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post Jun 29 2013, 16:23
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QUOTE(Tenrag @ Jun 29 2013, 13:09) *

How often do you get something decent from Snowflake for noodles?
They are quite costly so I was always thinking that I could get some decent gear by shrining them, but I never got even one mag, and my LotD is 12/25.

LotD does not affect shrining trophies.
i get exq from noodles quite often, but mag+ are quite rare.
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post Jun 29 2013, 16:24
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QUOTE(Tenrag @ Jun 29 2013, 05:09) *

How often do you get something decent from Snowflake for noodles?
They are quite costly so I was always thinking that I could get some decent gear by shrining them, but I never got even one mag, and my LotD is 12/25.


LotD doesn't matter.

How many noodles have you offered? Its not like they always gives you leg/mag. Just sometimes (or never if you have terrible luck). I've gotten only 2 leg and some mag out of the 70ish I offered. You might be better off selling them if you don't want to take the risk.
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post Jun 29 2013, 16:28
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hujan: For mages, it is useful against dragons, but otherwise it has too short of a duration.

As for level 5, at the moment yes. But there are some staves floating around with level 6 archmage /economizer due bugs.
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post Jun 29 2013, 16:59
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QUOTE(Lement @ Jun 29 2013, 22:28) *

hujan: For mages, it is useful against dragons, but otherwise it has too short of a duration.

What about melee?
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post Jun 29 2013, 17:15
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Jun 29 2013, 21:59) *

What about melee?

no need to use magnet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


those dragon have very high resist (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Jun 29 2013, 17:40
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QUOTE(ahenayau @ Jun 29 2013, 23:15) *

no need to use magnet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
those dragon have very high resist (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Ah, ok. I'll ask about the dragons when I do DwD.
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post Jun 29 2013, 18:39
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QUOTE(Tenrag @ Jun 29 2013, 06:09) *

How often do you get something decent from Snowflake for noodles?
They are quite costly so I was always thinking that I could get some decent gear by shrining them, but I never got even one mag, and my LotD is 12/25.

not often enough to suit, but I vastly prefer noodles over IWBTH. Miss the old 3 blood tokens cost for FSM. Most of the really good stuff I'm carrying came from noodles, and there's no way in hell i would have been able to afford it otherwise. I have 17/25 LotD now, and still get only shit. get like 1 exq from Hourlies every 4 days or so. I've never gotten anything even remotely decent from the other trophies though.

It seems like throwing away a lot of potential credits when shrining a stack of noodles, but all you need is 1 good roll to make it up and more. I think it's a good gamble.
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post Jun 29 2013, 21:26
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Thinking about trying TTatT for the first time. I wonder if I should try it on IWBTH though... Any possible problems for DW LA? Who should I kill first? Any particular tips maybe?
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post Jun 29 2013, 21:47
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IWBTH should be quite doable for you, especially as DW. Kill Yggdrassil first, it heals the others. Fates last. Better set your deprecating abilities though, if you're worried then you can sleep everything but what you're targeting+dragons.
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post Jun 29 2013, 22:09
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QUOTE(calibur @ Jun 29 2013, 16:24) *

LotD doesn't matter.

How many noodles have you offered? Its not like they always gives you leg/mag. Just sometimes (or never if you have terrible luck). I've gotten only 2 leg and some mag out of the 70ish I offered. You might be better off selling them if you don't want to take the risk.


Hmm, To be honest I don't remember, I'm lvl 285 and when I wrote that I never got a mag for noodles then it must have been quite a lot since I never sold any, all shrined.
It seems that I have some bad luck.

Snowflake doesn't like me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

QUOTE(kserox @ Jun 29 2013, 21:26) *

Thinking about trying TTatT for the first time. I wonder if I should try it on IWBTH though... Any possible problems for DW LA? Who should I kill first? Any particular tips maybe?

I did my first TT&T on IWBTH today and it wasn't that hard even though my DW eq isn't that great (mostly exq/sup). I took elixirs instead of heroic potions (9 mana, 3 spirit) and used infusions: frost and holy for weapons and flame and darkness for armor, also voidseeker and aether shards (I finally got an opportunity to use some since they are piling up slowly). I finished with 1 spirit and 4 mana elixirs left. just be sure to use weaken on FSM and imperil on monster you are about hit with skill.
Don't expect any fireworks for reward, I got this usless thing, and it seems that people are getting some even crappier sups.

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post Jun 30 2013, 08:23
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How much would this worth?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=604378adad

Also I'd like to ask since I'm not a mage. What factor that mages usually look in buying staffs / armor equipments?
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post Jun 30 2013, 09:46
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Not enough to warrant a shop.
Mages usually just check their respective scores to see if an item gives a + to their (insert element) score

Factors for buying staves:

Holy/dark(usually exq or higher):
priority 1: katalox (or oak/willow of the quality is high enough) with either of heimdall/fenrir or destruction
priority 2: magical dmg/edb/pabs and prefix (hallowed/demonic)

Elementals (Must be exq or higher):
priority 1: respective prefix + redwood(new only)/ebony(retired) of destruction/respective suffix
priority 2: magical dmg/edb/pabs and respective prefix

Cloths:
Holy/dark and elemental mages:
ONLY phase (overall quality does not mean much for phases because rolls are dumb [e.g. a fine phase giving better score than an exq/mag )

priority 1: Good EDB
priority 2: pabs (int is slightly more important than wis)

Rules of thumb: keep all phase

Scores apply to all of the aforementioned items.

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post Jun 30 2013, 09:56
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QUOTE(indiexanna @ Jun 30 2013, 01:23) *

How much would this worth?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=604378adad

Also I'd like to ask since I'm not a mage. What factor that mages usually look in buying staffs / armor equipments?


Right now, not much. Proficiency's bonuses are not good enough to make it worth using Gossamer over Phase or Elementalist over more aggressive suffixes such as an EDB suffix or Destruction. I do kind of expect to see some tweaks to proficiency gear relatively soon, given that partially forged Legendary Max Gossamer is worse than Superior Max Phase right now.

Even if proficiency gear wasn't currently in a bad place, it wouldn't be worth too much as it's a Superior Redwood. Staff and 2H are some of the most popular things to shrine Noodles for, so there are large numbers of random Exquisite Redwood staves on the market, which makes Superior and lower equipment less desireable.

What you'll be looking for in Staves is EDB prefix aligned with an EDB or Destruction suffix (for Redwood, Willow and Katalox), or for Oak primarily Hallowed Oak of Heimdall. For Katalox, the prefix doesn't necessarily need to align, but it increases the value significantly.
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post Jun 30 2013, 10:51
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QUOTE(Yuuki17 @ Jun 29 2013, 11:20) *

QUOTE(ljyvtn @ Jun 29 2013, 11:38) *

Yes, read this before asking, it doesn't directly answer the question though.

Okay, i'm sorry, got it now. Thank you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jun 30 2013, 10:56
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Thanks for the answers

So.. based on the answers, this http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4dbb613140 seems to worth more than the ethereal one I showed earlier then?
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post Jun 30 2013, 11:03
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generally speaking... yes.
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