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Jun 26 2013, 14:16
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Lement
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Non-void crushing is very bad option due all the giants and dragons.
But axe can work. Most important after having PA and void instead of crushing is the strikes.
This post has been edited by Lement: Jun 26 2013, 14:24
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Jun 26 2013, 17:40
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CoochNoodle
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God the search system is so horrible. My last account is purged so i can start anew and it has been about a year or 2 since i last played hentaiverse. I see lots of things have changed and in many ways illogical but anyway, last time when i played it i went physical close combat.
I want, now that i'm starting anew, to go as a full fledged mage.
Now i have read some of the wiki content and reading through that isn't a problem and i have managed to see a few posts backwards, unlocking spells after mandatory close combat and such crap is one of the illogical things as far as i can read.
Can any of the experts give me a short breakdown of how to become a mage now and when i can start using offensive spells as abilities because i don't see them anywhere in the abilities menu? Do i need to do it through magical weapons? I guess i have to start as close combat, but how the hell do i progress or rather how does the progression go? That's the only problem i have, no capability to plan ahead on what is going on with the system, the rest of the basic things you can ignore because i pretty much know them already and can look up in the wiki.
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Jun 26 2013, 17:44
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m118w11
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Also on ethereal weapons, the increase in burden can make a sizable difference in your effective damage output (and survivability if you are using light armor). QUOTE(Honk @ Jun 26 2013, 12:30)  Is it really that bad? Right now I'm doing hourly encounters on Nightmare. On Normal most monsters fall after one attack. And even without it's enough for low END classes. Is any semi decent Superior club/rapier combo better then my two void weapons? I might not have the credits to buy two exqs or even mags
Realistically don't worry too much about trying to get exquisite/mag ethereal weapons as the price of them gets out of hand. For offhand, if you use a rapier, you will begin to see a bigger and bigger difference as you level: eg. if the mobs have 50% reduction, 3 stacks of penetrating armor increases your damage by 75% (your damage goes from 50% to 87.5%), try to get one with higher proc duration. But for main hand, it is more flexible, you don't necessarily need a club, but i would recommend sticking to ethereal so you don't have to worry about burden reducing your evasion.
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Jun 26 2013, 18:54
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Fadeway
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I'm using a 2-hander and light armor. Here's how my stats look: [ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/zxhbtTP.pngI finally covered all my soft bits with armor and reached 100% hit. I've been trying to level my weapon, but I have trouble lasting the long amount of rounds on anything above the lowest two difficulties. Is there any way to make my character last more rounds? Will I ever reach full sustainability, perpetually generatic violence to the halls of valhalla and beyond, without the need for potion input or rest? Also, I've been getting some utility spells. I normally use cure, with protection whenever there's a lot of damage involved or the free spell thing procs, but now I've got absorb and slow too. How do utility spells look, from the perspective of a melee character? This post has been edited by Fadeway: Jun 26 2013, 19:01
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Jun 26 2013, 19:00
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watisthis
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QUOTE(Fadeway @ Jun 26 2013, 12:54)  I'm using a 2-hander and light armor. Here's how my stats look: [ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/zxhbtTP.pngI finally covered all my soft bits with armor and reached 100% hit. I've been trying to level my weapon, but I have trouble lasting the long amount of rounds on anything above the lowest two difficulties. Is there any way to make my character last more rounds? Will I ever reach full sustainability, perpetually generatic violence to the halls of valhalla and beyond, without the need for potion input or rest? Also, I've been getting some utility spells. I normally use cure, with protection whenever a big pile of monsters is coming or the free spell thing procs, but now I've got absorb and slow too. How do utility spells look, from the perspective of a melee character? I-i-i-is that like 50 tabs. Also posting your wep, armor might help
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Jun 26 2013, 19:12
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Fadeway
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Jun 26 2013, 19:39
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Lement
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Fadeway: Slow is fairly useless compared to weaken.
As for lasting, at the moment you don't have the mana pool or perks, but nobody can last forever - however, winning the 1k rounds of grindfest @IWBTH is doable for sufficiently strong melee.
This post has been edited by Lement: Jun 26 2013, 19:39
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Jun 26 2013, 20:02
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Fadeway
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QUOTE(Lement @ Jun 26 2013, 20:39)  As for lasting, at the moment you don't have the mana pool or perks, but nobody can last forever - however, winning the 1k rounds of grindfest @IWBTH is doable for sufficiently strong melee.
That sounds like a character whose health/mana can last through more battles than my own patience/willpower (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) What should I focus on to move in the direction of more sustainability? Is the 2-hander+light armor style even a suitable starting point?
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Jun 26 2013, 20:07
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hentai_fusion
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try mace with high stun and plate of protection with high mitigation...
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Jun 26 2013, 20:15
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Malenk
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Jun 26 2013, 20:31
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Honk
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Thanks to everyone who answered my questions so far. But I have still one more. How do I best grind proficiency? Specifically, should I get a Mage set and spam weaken/protection or rather high cost spells for a guaranteed proficiency gain? Use potions to stay in the battle or flee and restore out of battle instantly?
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Jun 26 2013, 22:20
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Honk
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QUOTE(SirHarry87 @ Jun 26 2013, 21:09)  Exquisite Zircon Plate Sabatons of Dampening
Also, how do you put the link inside the name of the equipment?
[*url=http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php?eid=26178965&key=0df9af3008]Exquisite Zircon Plate Sabatons of Dampening[/url] Remove the asterisk and you're good to go. Alternatively, if you add an url via the 'Insert Link'-Button, first paste the url, hit OK and enter the text you wish to display This post has been edited by Honk: Jun 26 2013, 22:20
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Jun 26 2013, 23:20
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etothex
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QUOTE(Honk @ Jun 26 2013, 11:31)  Thanks to everyone who answered my questions so far. But I have still one more. How do I best grind proficiency? Specifically, should I get a Mage set and spam weaken/protection or rather high cost spells for a guaranteed proficiency gain? Use potions to stay in the battle or flee and restore out of battle instantly?
owl suffix if you can find any, else highest wisdom clothes you got. use focus staff for deprecating; use 1h/shield battlecaster for supportive. you won't want to bother with deprecating til 250 unfortunately, since you won't get cooldown=0 for weaken til then. cast a higher mp cost spell. Not regen or heartseeker, those are too high. I use SoL. QUOTE(SirHarry87 @ Jun 26 2013, 12:09)  Hi, I've been playing for a long time but never "knew" how to play good, i was reading the wiki and other stuff here but I don't understand too much, specially with the terms you use like proc, PA, etc. I am a two handed heavy, never bought anything on the forums, don't know how it works. I want to know what do you recommend me to do about equipment and leveling. This are my stats [ i39.tinypic.com] http://i39.tinypic.com/2n9l5s3.png Character & Stats http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=342f9e1ae4Exquisite Mace of Balance http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f21484e055Fine Power Helmet of Protection http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=eb9ed5447dExquisite Plate Cuirass of Warding http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1090e80c50Exquisite Plate Gauntlets of Warding http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a5bbb67c22Exquisite Plate Greaves of Protection http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0df9af3008Exquisite Zircon Plate Sabatons of Dampening stats are fine, add some to wis if your mana pool is insufficient. get rid of that mace. crushing damage is horrible. you need an ethereal if you want to go stun, else try estoc or scythe. try to get your hands on the "protection" armor suffix; warding is pretty useless. go to WTS section of hverse forums. browse the shops. find something you like. post in that topic, mooglemail credits to the shop owner; they send you the item. exquisite plate of protection can be found for 5-20k per piece. cheap. proc is the weapon proc--bleeding wounds / stun / penetrated armor (PA). On higher difficulties PA is highly recommended cuz it lowers the mob's mitigation (defense) = kill a lot faster. Also makes using non-ethereal estocs much more viable than non ethereal maces and scythes.
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Jun 27 2013, 01:59
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m118w11
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QUOTE(Fadeway @ Jun 26 2013, 18:54)  I'm using a 2-hander and light armor. Here's how my stats look: [ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/zxhbtTP.pngI finally covered all my soft bits with armor and reached 100% hit. I've been trying to level my weapon, but I have trouble lasting the long amount of rounds on anything above the lowest two difficulties. Is there any way to make my character last more rounds? Will I ever reach full sustainability, perpetually generatic violence to the halls of valhalla and beyond, without the need for potion input or rest? Also, I've been getting some utility spells. I normally use cure, with protection whenever there's a lot of damage involved or the free spell thing procs, but now I've got absorb and slow too. How do utility spells look, from the perspective of a melee character? Yes, at higher gear values you can be really efficient, once you are level 50 and have regen, see if you can get away with using focus when there is one (or few) mobs left it the round, you can use this to keep potion usage to a minimum, but you will end up having more potions than you can use either way. If you want, you can head to the free shops to get a massive gear upgrade, but that may or may not ruin your fun. Soon you will get regen which is a game changer, you will want to keep it up 90-100% of the time (for every single build), then look to keep up protection. For the vast majority of spells you tend to not use them until you are much higher level, at my level, I use weaken and silence for random encounters and bosses, imperil for bosses. QUOTE(Honk @ Jun 26 2013, 20:31)  Thanks to everyone who answered my questions so far. But I have still one more. How do I best grind proficiency? Specifically, should I get a Mage set and spam weaken/protection or rather high cost spells for a guaranteed proficiency gain? Use potions to stay in the battle or flee and restore out of battle instantly?
Get a set of + supportive/depreciating proficiency gear, a mana conservation weapon, go to a crude item world on normal, kill every mob except one, then use your cheapest spell and hold r. Top up mana and heal as appropriate. For depreciating, if you can, try to hold off till you have 0 cooldown weaken, otherwise it takes too much effort.
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Jun 27 2013, 02:39
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Yuuki17
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Jun 27 2013, 02:49
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treesloth
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Anyone know what the magic score for holy or dark should be, in order to one-shot mobs (on IWTBH)? With and without imperil?
And what the hell, Kodou Yuki is on steroids or something.
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Jun 27 2013, 03:20
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n125
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Kodou Yuki will survive a nuclear holocaust.
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Jun 27 2013, 03:22
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Slobber
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QUOTE(n125 @ Jun 26 2013, 19:20)  Kodou Yuki will survive a nuclear holocaust.
And then get sent to Mars along with moss so that it could eat the moss and cultivate into Terra Formars!
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