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post Nov 19 2010, 00:04
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I meant to say that i can easily keep more rounds on item world cake than a cakefest (usually atleast twice as long). The credits that I earn on a cakefest is not that much compared to the items that i can earn from selling items in the item world (even though scrolls, infusions and elixers are worth credits less now). Also if you level up faster, you can have acces to more arena challenges (potentially some minor credits every day)and you can challenge legendaries faster.

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post Nov 19 2010, 07:52
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Nov 18 2010, 10:30) *

hp tank, mp tank, spirit tank and oc... poison, cure, shield, regen...

as for the rest of the ap allocation advise, you will have to wait for those pros that does melee...

for stats, focus on str, dex, agi, end, wis...

str is more for melee damage, dex is more for melee accuracy, agi is more for action speed, end is more for hp and hp regen, wis is more for mp and mp regen...

thus if i were doing melee, my priority will be on str and then followed by the rest.
you still need the tier 1 spells because of the rating and also because tier 1 spells is more mp friendly.

i am still using tier 1 spells during the item worlds, grindfest and arena.

the only time i will switch to tier 2 spells is when i encounter the boss level or higher monsters.


Can i see your ability chart? I'm thinking of converting to a magic build and i'm wondering if its not too late to try switching...

Just like some other users, I started off as a melee user and realized that i got ass raped without lube when i used all heavy armor, please tell me which stats I should put my attributes into, or whether I should stick to melee?

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Edit: Oh, and which one is a better overall stat? Damage Absorbtion or Damage Mitigation?

Edit 2: I think someone said that it would be ok to switch back to heavy armor at a much higher level, but why? Also which monsters should i proritize in killing when theres a special monster out on the field?

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post Nov 19 2010, 08:58
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I'm sure this must be a natural question but does anything at all affect the number of times items drop? Does anything change the quality of the item being dropped? For example is there some bonus to this in going into Itemworld with a better quality of item? Or does going to a higher difficulty change the nature and number of items being dropped in IW or the arena? Is item drop and quality equal in all difficulty setting in all three of the hubs?

I do of course know of the training stuff which is starting to get rather expensive now ^ ^;
And on that note, I personally think its best to increase the base "loot" drop rate but how much have other players done in terms of the ratio of Scavenger to LoD and of course, quartermaster and archaeologist? I assume for most people, its simply a matter of which is the least expensive since they do get really expensive.

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post Nov 19 2010, 10:52
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On what level do people usually start playing on battletoads difficulty?
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post Nov 19 2010, 12:24
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@ hyl

You'll never understand why people do cakefest, you have goldstar, which give you money...
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post Nov 19 2010, 13:26
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i only have had a goldstar till 1 week ago.
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post Nov 19 2010, 13:28
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The Lightning Storm spell helps me out nicely in my battles sofar. 2MP for hitting all monsters at once? yes please (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Poison is what I use on the Mindraper, Sonic, Canuch, Mith and whatever is stronger then them. The common stuff gets zapped, with the occasional magic missile.

Been considering picking up the fire ones as well, since the lightning storm occasionally triggers a bonus to fire damage. But at 6 AP, I'm not sure I want to do that just yet.
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post Nov 20 2010, 05:16
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How much harder does FSM hit than IPU? And how much more HP does he have?
I fought IPU with silence and 80% holy mit, but I'll only have about 70% dark mit for FSM due to not having dark ratings.

IPU hit me for about 200 damage unshielded, 150 shielded with 80% mit.

Can I get by with Silence/Regen/Haste/scrolled shield like with IPU or do I need to use weaken?
I didn't need spark scrolls vs IPU so I've got a bunch saved up for FSM (24 life, 18 god scrolls) if I need to go with weaken rather than silence.

And what is the exact formula for how often a spell will fail due to interference?
Is it 1% for every point of interference over 25?
My spirit ward setup has 25.2 interference, So I want to know how often my spells would fail.
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post Nov 20 2010, 07:12
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any advice for whether i should switch to magic or not? i'm still gettin ass raped as we speak
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post Nov 20 2010, 13:08
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[quote name='PsychoticSoul' date='Nov 20 2010, 03:16' post='875638']
How much harder does FSM hit than IPU? And how much more HP does he have?
I fought IPU with silence and 80% holy mit, but I'll only have about 70% dark mit for FSM due to not having dark ratings.
[/quote]They hit about the same, but FSM have 40% more HP.

IPU hit me for about 200 damage unshielded, 150 shielded with 80% mit.

Can I get by with Silence/Regen/Haste/scrolled shield like with IPU or do I need to use weaken?
I didn't need spark scrolls vs IPU so I've got a bunch saved up for FSM (24 life, 18 god scrolls) if I need to go with weaken rather than silence.[/quote]Try, it's the best way.
[quote name='PsychoticSoul' date='Nov 20 2010, 03:16' post='875638']
And what is the exact formula for how often a spell will fail due to interference?
Is it 1% for every point of interference over 25?
My spirit ward setup has 25.2 interference, So I want to know how often my spells would fail.
[/quote]You don't know the formula, but with a similar interference I got only 1 spell that failed when I engaged one of the legends.

jon189t:stats, equipment without them how can someone give advices?
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post Nov 20 2010, 19:22
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QUOTE(jon189t @ Nov 20 2010, 08:12) *

any advice for whether i should switch to magic or not? i'm still gettin ass raped as we speak



you will have to suffer till level 50
btw
try to switch to light/cloth equipments balancing protection and evade... use a shield or high parry weapons
keep your interference below 35 and spam supportive and deprecating magic (shield and weaken, poision if you have rapier and enough mp) on high level monsters and bosses

just melee attacks are not enough at this level but switching to only magic is not the answer

i'm on your same situation and sometimes i lose in arena just for bad luck
everyone say that levels around 40 are very critic so keep it on
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post Nov 20 2010, 20:14
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QUOTE(jon189t @ Nov 20 2010, 13:12) *

any advice for whether i should switch to magic or not? i'm still gettin ass raped as we speak


show us your stats, equipment and ap allocation... chances are you are doing something wrong...

and maging is not as awesome as you think it is...
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post Nov 20 2010, 21:16
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Nov 20 2010, 13:14) *

show us your stats, equipment and ap allocation... chances are you are doing something wrong...

and maging is not as awesome as you think it is...


I posted my stats in post # 3422

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post Nov 20 2010, 21:57
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for a balanced build capable of doing both physical dmg and magical you need to increase dexterity and agility (without dexterity you hit less, without agility you evade less) the same as your level
keep a bit behind wisdom and let it be INT

you need to throw away that equip (no good even for cakefest because it protects only form dark dmg or soul) and buy some cloth and leather with the max evade possible.
Choose equip with suffixes which enhances general protection, attributes, damage... is also good avoidance or stats enhance
(check here for suffixes)

you need to keep down your interference for being efficient at spellcasting... (not more than 35-40)
burden is acceptable at no more than 50 or you will be double-hitted too much

start investing in deprecating magic (poison is useful if you have a piercing weapon, weaken cost less and i s good for all fighting style) and use it for make some proficiency
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post Nov 20 2010, 21:58
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you are getting raped because your burden and interference is way too high.

try switching some of them out for light or cloth armor.

as for weapons, i don't think anyone uses a katana on its own. it is usually paired with a waki for niten style.

as for ap, go for the spirit tanks and oc.
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post Nov 21 2010, 01:08
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Is using dual-wielding with 2 rapiers a good idea? I am using it now and I am getting PA like 70% of the time and the proc of the rapiers are only average...
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post Nov 21 2010, 01:25
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QUOTE(LastLuck @ Nov 20 2010, 17:08) *

Is using dual-wielding with 2 rapiers a good idea? I am using it now and I am getting PA like 70% of the time and the proc of the rapiers are only average...

I only use that to kill the Mikuru, Ryouko and Yuki faster..
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post Nov 21 2010, 01:25
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get atleast something with a high poc and bleed. Also i think that you don't need a rapier now, unless you are fighting bosses or stronger.
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post Nov 21 2010, 01:32
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QUOTE(Death Grunty @ Nov 20 2010, 23:25) *

I only use that to kill the Mikuru, Ryouko and Yuki faster..
Depends of what weapons you have but Rapier+ Axe can be faster...
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