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Hi guys! Just a quick question regarding equipment prices: how do I know what something is worth? What factors of the equipment would I mainly look at?

For example, this weapon: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=aefd6128ca

It has 0/309 EXP. Does the requirement of 309xp to level up (from level 0) mean that it's worth more than a weapon with that needs 200xp to level up?

And does "Ethereal" or "Estoc" make a big difference in its value? Or are there more important variables?

Hi guys! Just a quick question regarding equipment prices: how do I know what something is worth? What factors of the equipment would I mainly look at?

For example, this weapon: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=aefd6128ca

It has 0/309 EXP. Does the requirement of 309xp to level up (from level 0) mean that it's worth more than a weapon with that needs 200xp to level up?

And does "Ethereal" or "Estoc" make a big difference in its value? Or are there more important variables?

If you mean to stores, then pretty much it is related to that exp, further modified if the piece is T2 (gossamer, estoc) or T3 (scythe, shade, power).

If you mean to players, it depends on what its prefixes/suffixes and type are. For example, weapons with "of slaughter" tend to be worth much more, as do high quality. Ethereal makes a big difference on most pieces, and estoc of slaughter does too (for 2 hand weapons, estocs/scythes are worth a lot, the rest not so much).

Here's an old PM from needaname:

Oh well... people have started to bombard me with pms and moogles since that post of mine... Sure hope I'll get repaid for my favors some time ;P Incoming text dump...

With the exception of Phase, all crudes and fairs are rarely in demand unless you're selling to a noob.
All cloths and leathers are pretty much unsellable to other players, superior+ can be salvaged or sold depending on your preferences

Gossammer needs a high prof roll and at least wis+int PAB, else its also bazaar or salvagable.
Phase needs a decent EDB roll, at least wis PAB to be sellable. The dex/agi/no PAB high EDB roll ones are marginally sellable. Note that its possible to get a high EDB roll+good INT+WIS pabs even on a crude, so its the most 'odd' of all items.
For Kevlar, you want at least high PMI roll + high evade roll + at least 3 PABs, of which END is a priority and INT doesn't count as a PAB.
For Shade, you want high ADB, evade, at least 3+ PAB w/o INT and low interference if possible
For Plate, look for high PMI and 3+ PAB , again focusing on END.
Shield needs decent block and at least STR+END pab, maybe END and non-str PAB might be okay.
Power needs a good ADB roll and good PABs to accompany it.

Its all very relative and few people want to pore over itemlists unless there's a good deal or a freebie involved for them. Its pretty hard to explain the selection criteria

Things that have changed since then: gossamer is nearly useless now(much worse than before), leather was merged with kevlar, Shield is obsolete, AGI PAB now grants PMI instead of attack speed, int no longer gives MP, STR no longer gives PMI....

Doesn't also describe weapons, which are:

2h: Mace of Slaughter(less so), Scythe of Slaughter(less so), Estoc of Slaughter(the king). Niten has a small following. As you might guess, the values are determined by Ethereal>Hallowed/Demonic>Elemental>Proc≃ADB>PABs>crit, mainly. Burden plays a small role, especially in the value of elemental rapiers. Very good Illthid pieces have a small following.

1h: Rapier, Club, Axe are the main ones, where Axes and Clubs are of Slaughter and Rapiers of Balance/Nimble. Rapier of Slaughter for 1h+Shield are somewhat popular. - as they're single-target styles that cannot inflict it with skills, Penetrated armor is much more powerful than bleed here. Elemental Clubs and Axes don't have their value boosted by it nowhere near as much as with relatively light Rapiers or even 2hs, because their burden cannot be nulled with featherweight and the best place to use shade is also the best place to use DW. Stat importance for mainhand of slaughter is rather similar as with 2h - crit is more important - but for offhand, ADB has very little value and offhand's parry/accuracy can in odd situations be as valuable as whether it is elemental or vanilla.

Staves: Katalox>Oak>redwood in value. Willow is quite random but worse than oak usually. Of destruction is best suffix in value by a tier even with similar scores, then EDB ones. Elemental prefix that matches the suffix(destruction matches all) boosts value by a tier. Of <prof> is pretty bad. Of <Focus> is sellable to newbies. Otherwise, Economizer 5 boosts staff value by a lot.

For ballpark prices, look at recent auctions.

As for PXP, it correlates very closely to quality, while prefix of Crude to Legendary gives the general range.

The price of bazaar is exponential of that PXP, with minimum of 100.

The price of players is ~exponential of the power of equip(correlates loosely to the quality but is also some fast-increasing function), with multipliers for certain words such as Ethereal or Heimdall.

As far as 2hs go, ethereal can multiply the value by dozens of times over vanilla, and is generally a fair bit more valued than elemental prefixes, especially for mace and katana. Estoc is similarly few times more valuable to players than mace and scythe, and dozens more than longswords.

This post has been edited by Lement: Jun 24 2013, 21:04

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/trophies#Trophies

Should I keep the trophies I get from Ring of Blood?
Wiki said they gave loot quality bonus--I don't know if that means when offered to the shrine or during battle.

Only when offered to shrine. Furthermore, LOTD doesn't affect them so they'll always be as good.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/trophies#Trophies

Should I keep the trophies I get from Ring of Blood?
Wiki said they gave loot quality bonus--I don't know if that means when offered to the shrine or during battle.

because of level scaling, there is not much reason to keep them.

and loot quality bonus is for when it is offered to the shrine.

watch the price sky rocket as the snipers come out on the last day. 4pab solid rolls, leveled, forgings... i can't imagine it going for less than 3-4m credits...

overall it a good eth rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
good luck bid for it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Well, I'm out of the bidding race. Highest bidder - Eromosat 2.75m.

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This post has been edited by hujan86: Jun 25 2013, 02:25

Well, I'm out of the bidding race. Highest bidder - Eromosat 2.75m.

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well, I think Chazer will start another auction soon, and it includes a Mag Eth Rapier of Balance...... You have another chance! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

why would i ever spend points to upgrade shadow veil / haste abilities? scrolls give a longer buff and twice as good effect... while protection as a spell lasts 10 or so rounds longer, the buff is twice better on scroll. absorb as a spell has "a chance" to absorb next spell, while the scroll states "will absorb" next spell.

why should i bother leveling any of those spells when i have three slots for scrolls that automatically restore during battle?

why would i ever spend points to upgrade shadow veil / haste abilities? scrolls give a longer buff and twice as good effect... while protection as a spell lasts 10 or so rounds longer, the buff is twice better on scroll. absorb as a spell has "a chance" to absorb next spell, while the scroll states "will absorb" next spell.

why should i bother leveling any of those spells when i have three slots for scrolls that automatically restore during battle?

Haste scroll is always 30? turns. As you level up proficiency you will gain turns that way as well. Currently my haste lasts 74 turns, 111 with channeling. This is at 202 proficiency + fully upgraded haste.
Absorb scroll is quite useful. However absorbing every spell, you will use a lot of them.

This post has been edited by Yuuki17: Jun 25 2013, 03:40

...how much does a fully upgraded haste give you speed? it says 50% in the ability screen, but when i cast it in battle (yes, i've chosen haste as an active ability) it still shows 25% when i hover above it

...how much does a fully upgraded haste give you speed? it says 50% in the ability screen, but when i cast it in battle (yes, i've chosen haste as an active ability) it still shows 25% when i hover above it

I think this is just a visual thing, like how arcane focus and heartseeker still say accuracy on them, despite providing no bonus to it. It probably would have been fixed by now, had it been working improperly, I think.

...how much does a fully upgraded haste give you speed?

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Exq Ethereal Mace of Balance Gonna need a price check on this, dat stun chance, dat str

well, I think Chazer will start another auction soon, and it includes a Mag Eth Rapier of Balance...... You have another chance! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

if the overall stats is great than he need more than 4M to do bid war (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
( i still don't see it yet )

I'm working my way up to get IA2 and I'm wondering what skill should I put in the autocast? I'm 2 handed mace using kevlar of protection.

I'm working my way up to get IA2 and I'm wondering what skill should I put in the autocast? I'm 2 handed mace using kevlar of protection.

haste on 1st slot
SV/SoL on 2nd slot

Haste scroll is always 30? turns. As you level up proficiency you will gain turns that way as well. Currently my haste lasts 74 turns, 111 with channeling. This is at 202 proficiency + fully upgraded haste.
Absorb scroll is quite useful. However absorbing every spell, you will use a lot of them.

currently my haste last 105 turns... 320 prof with max haste and no channelling.

I have a question about monster gifts: When are the rolls for gift made?
Wiki says:

Player-created monsters have a chance of bringing items to their owner after at least one hour.
...
The chance to receive a gift is based on how many battles a monster has won since they last delivered a gift

I suppose it is something like:
if monster gave gift just a moment ago -> wait 1 hour
if after 1 hour monster won some battle -> roll
roll failed-> wait ????some???? time -> if in the meantime monster won more battles chances go up
after this ????some???? time -> next roll
and repeat until you get a gift

I don't have any idea if it makes any sense but if it does then what is this "some time"?

And there comes this thing about happy pills:
in about 1/4 instances of giving the monster happy pills it instantly gives me the gift, so I guess there is an additional roll there. There is nothing about it in the wiki so I started to have doubts about my logic.

Can someone clarify it?

How exactly do you get bindings in this? I'm nearly lvl.100 and haven't seen a single one drop. Are there any other methods used to receive them?