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post Jun 13 2013, 13:35
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QUOTE(weioh @ Jun 13 2013, 07:13) *

Hello, I was wondering about intelligence on melee characters. The advice page on the wiki says to keep it .8*level but I don't see the reason to put points into intelligence at all. Can anyone give me an explanation?

It still raises spirit a bit, like any other stat.

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Also another thing, I have a 89.4% hit chance with a club of slaughter and rapier of balance and 60 dex. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks.

I don't know, there have been several patches since I was your level. It should be okay I guess.
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post Jun 13 2013, 13:38
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QUOTE(Arxdewn @ Jun 13 2013, 11:18) *

Now mages are only slightly faster than melee instead of many times faster.

with all the drawbacks they used to have before and then some.
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post Jun 13 2013, 13:52
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QUOTE(weioh @ Jun 13 2013, 08:13) *

Hello, I was wondering about intelligence on melee characters. The advice page on the wiki says to keep it .8*level but I don't see the reason to put points into intelligence at all. Can anyone give me an explanation? Also another thing, I have a 89.4% hit chance with a club of slaughter and rapier of balance and 60 dex. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks.

You're looking at outdated wiki page. INT used to give third the mana of WIS.

Now it gives some spirit...Not very useful, given that everything but spirit stance drains a % of base spirit, but not entirely useless either.

For the time being, you might want to look at armors that give accuracy, like shade or power.

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post Jun 13 2013, 14:17
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Jun 13 2013, 11:33) *

Sure you can do DW regardless of your weapons' quality (as long as it's not under Fine). That's really up to you. With some luck, you'll probably find something way better - sooner or later.


These are my weapons:

MH: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2c64af4034
OH: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e818ff33a3

Sometimes I used these two (when I entered in the IW of one of the upper two)

MH: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1d6b73be0b
OH: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=7c2cfc0429

Since IW is useless at this level, which is the best couple?
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post Jun 13 2013, 14:21
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if the Character Stats wiki page is up to date, pure melee users can more or less ignore INT.

for melee INT raises base SP but since SS and SoL trigger cost are calculated based on base SP, increasing your base SP does not give you more SS and SoL at all.

INT does still raise your SP regen though so it might not be wise to make INT 0.

INT for melee is straight forward but STR for mage is more troubling.

that Arcane Blow damage is computed based on physical and magical damage. and since mage no longer have MM, that Arcane Blow is important.

can't decide on whether to lower my STR by a lot or not.

any advise from experts?
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post Jun 13 2013, 14:44
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http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=5dfe6feb0d
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a3400b3e12

for estocs, which one is better? (i got the mag on a lucky buy off the bazaar a few days ago. still can't believe my luck)
The mag has a Dark strike, but the Slaughter estoc has quite a lot more damage, so which should i use?
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post Jun 13 2013, 15:05
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QUOTE(pigowallace @ Jun 13 2013, 20:17) *

Since IW is useless at this level, which is the best couple?

I'm pretty sure you don't need that dagger. It's either Sup Illithid Club + rapier or Fn Slaughter Club + rapier.
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post Jun 13 2013, 15:41
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Jun 13 2013, 15:05) *

I'm pretty sure you don't need that dagger. It's either Sup Illithid Club + rapier or Fn Slaughter Club + rapier.


Ok thanks!

If u find something better that those weapons, PM me and I'll try to buy it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (try because my funds are ridicolous XD)

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post Jun 13 2013, 17:41
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Should I be able to do random encounters on IWBTH? I used to ele mage and tried recreating that but I just get destroyed before I even really get off my buffs. And this is with the weakened monster stuff, can't imagine if I faced those strong monsters I used to back in the day that could take one mob and 1 shot me with it.
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post Jun 13 2013, 17:56
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you need SoL on IA.
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post Jun 13 2013, 19:44
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I think I will question some.

Does the potency value include Prefixes?
For example, if there are
1. Superior Plate armor of balance
2. Superior Cobalt Plate armor of balance
and their potency levels are same.

Does that mean the second one has relatively lower stats, because of resistance stat?


How good are ethereal and at what cost should I seek it?

I saw Wolf free equip shop has some ethereal, but with quite low potency values. I heard its high level stuff, and it ignores armor and has no burden.
It sounds very cool, though I have no idea how good those effects are yet. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Is there any need for it? The void shard that lasts 1 hour is sure expensive though.

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post Jun 13 2013, 20:06
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@walkleft: 1. No, it does not - nor does it mean that shade armor with same potency as phase armor has relatively lower rolls. The quality in general is calculated as between 0 and 1, plus and minus some factors after PABs are rolled - then prefix, if possible, is rolled. If prefix decreased quality you'd see average ethereals.

However, keep in mind that roll is more likely to be 'bad' than not, especially so among multiple rolls, so most prefixed stuff you see won't be very good.

2. Ethereal gives your weapon a damage type much like fire or crushing is, that all monsters have 0 mitigation against. The damage is still affected by their physical mitigation. Furthermore, ethereal and hollowforged weapons get void strike, which does half the damage of your hit on the monster you target. Last but not least, ethereals have zero burden and interference. It is the very likely going to be the best prefix for your melee weapons - it is must on maces and clubs, since crushing damage has awful mitigation profile, while not as needed on bleeding and penetrating weapons.

In general, 2h weapon can get by with a voidseeker though that does not give the extra void strike - and voidseeker's are probably going to be cheaper than IWing an elemental weapon or buying an ethereal one for several months. One-handed weapons however benefit from being hollowforged or ethereal much more due them being for single-target styles, and generally hollowforged weapon is more troublesome to obtain than ethereal one.
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post Jun 13 2013, 21:30
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QUOTE(ttjj @ Jun 13 2013, 05:44) *

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=5dfe6feb0d
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a3400b3e12

for estocs, which one is better? (i got the mag on a lucky buy off the bazaar a few days ago. still can't believe my luck)
The mag has a Dark strike, but the Slaughter estoc has quite a lot more damage, so which should i use?

mag balance will kill the one you target faster. slaughter will kill aoe faster. if you have any accuracy issues, balance, if not, slaughter. however, see if you can find a better slaughter estoc; the damage on that one is too low.
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post Jun 13 2013, 21:34
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I'm not sure that the prefix not effecting the quality is accurate anymore, at least on armor. Post armor prefix patch, we started seeing legendaries with much higher quality, even beyond 1. How else do you explain this /pxp?
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post Jun 13 2013, 21:52
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Not new, though pre-prefix I had seen highest 366 power armor.

It's because PAB quality rebalancing is additive. If you look at unprefixed stuff, you still see at times averages with higher PXP that fines.

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post Jun 13 2013, 22:05
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when do i get another Title i have Lord which gives me a bonus power up but are their high title classes or is Lord the last
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post Jun 13 2013, 22:09
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any strategy for a holy mage to clear Triple Trio and the Tree on IWBTH?

who to kill first, second, third, etc...

what spells to cast on who...

etc...
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post Jun 13 2013, 22:20
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QUOTE(konata5 @ Jun 13 2013, 12:05) *

when do i get another Title i have Lord which gives me a bonus power up but are their high title classes or is Lord the last

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Ranks

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any strategy for a holy mage to clear Triple Trio and the Tree on IWBTH?

Crowd control everything and target the tree first and the goddesses last.
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post Jun 14 2013, 00:10
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so guys i have a question, ive built up 50k credits or so, should i buy something like this that is max iw level for 50k or buy maybe a real ethereal estoc like a fine one, which doesent seem as good now
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=52a51c664d

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post Jun 14 2013, 06:20
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I am here for moar questions.

When when my lv goes up, the enemy lv goes up, too.
Does that mean I have to rely on better equipment and items to win against higher battles? Do arena monsters become relatively weaker and can be beaten in IWBH without spending more effort on items?

I had one more question but I think I forgot.

OH, now I remember.

I am starting to wear power armors, but I think they are too fragile. Am I supposed to spend scrolls or upgrade before I use them?

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