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Jun 11 2013, 06:58
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Sky Arc
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(unknownxz. @ Jun 10 2013, 21:32)  Can some high-level melee tell me how fast you clear Trio(and schoolgirls) on IWBTH ? What your Fighting Style and turns per second ? please. Thank you! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I can finish TT&T at around 800 turn w/ dw light (using 2-3 heroic mana potion). This post has been edited by Sky Arc: Jun 11 2013, 07:00
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Jun 11 2013, 07:07
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unknownxz.
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QUOTE(Sky Arc @ Jun 11 2013, 11:58)  I can finish TT&T at around 800 turn w/ dw light (using 2-3 heroic mana potion).
Well.. actually, I meant Trio arena not the new RoB. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Anyway, thank you!
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Jun 11 2013, 07:08
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Sky Arc
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(unknownxz. @ Jun 10 2013, 22:07)  Well.. actually, I meant Trio arena not the new RoB. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Anyway, thank you! I am actually quite interested in that also since I will reach there next week (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) This post has been edited by Sky Arc: Jun 11 2013, 07:08
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Jun 11 2013, 07:18
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xtech22
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QUOTE(unknownxz. @ Jun 10 2013, 21:32)  Can some high-level melee tell me how fast you clear Trio(and schoolgirls) on IWBTH ? What your Fighting Style and turns per second ? please. Thank you! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) As of this patch 0.76i 9min The Trio and The Tree 11,925c | 12,392c | 11,627c 21min End of Days 14,075c | 13,428c | 12,879c 35min Eternal Darkness 14,484c | 13,019c | 15,364c 83min A Dance with Dragons 26,480c | 25,394c | 25,972c I also noted the amount of credits i usually earn from completing those arena's, with the RNG tied to the credits, sometimes you get less and other times more. it's a bit of an improvement over 0.76 but still not equal to 0.75, but still decent though (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Fighting style: Melee 2H Estoc + 5x Heavy Power armor and 4 turns/secs
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Jun 11 2013, 07:59
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nobody_xxx
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(xtech22 @ Jun 11 2013, 13:36)  you have a ton of random mag & exq , salvage it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by ahenayau: Jun 11 2013, 08:00
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Jun 11 2013, 08:07
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unknownxz.
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@xtech WOW~ That's really fast, hope I will get there... someday. @ahenayau I'm heavy DW too! Here mine (around 1.5-2turns/sec) : Trio around 35min End around 55min Eternal too long... i forgot it. DwD still one more lv. And any advice to clear DwD on IWBTH or BT for dw ? it's really slow when fighting with 2+ schoolgirls. Thanks! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by unknownxz.: Jun 11 2013, 08:08
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Jun 11 2013, 10:16
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treesloth
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(ahenayau @ Jun 11 2013, 15:30)  well , since offhand strike get buff by our pony overlords , so it easier to get multi PA on 2 / 3 girls (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I don't DW much, so I don't understand this.. If you are attacking one girl at a time, how can you get PA to stack on multiple girls?
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Jun 11 2013, 10:48
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Factofu
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Sky Arc @ Jun 11 2013, 06:58)  I can finish TT&T at around 800 turn w/ dw light (using 2-3 heroic mana potion).
800 turns with 2-3 heroic mana potion? D: My mana is drained at first turn due Heartseeker, Haste and Regen. I'm doing something wrong or I'm just a low level?
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Jun 11 2013, 11:13
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T_Starrk
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QUOTE(unknownxz. @ Jun 10 2013, 20:32)  Can some high-level melee tell me how fast you clear Trio(and schoolgirls) on IWBTH ? What your Fighting Style and turns per second ? please. Thank you! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) IWBTH Trio and the Tree took 15 minutes 45 seconds last time I timed myself. This is with shade/estoc. I still haven't timed my schoolgirl marathons but I know I can do the first one in 30 minutes approximately with dual-wield (it goes really fast with DW because it never gets beyond one schoolgirl at a time besides the last round). Turns per second I get? Idk, I think like 3. Sometimes I get slowdown though. This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Jun 11 2013, 11:57
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Jun 11 2013, 11:25
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T_Starrk
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QUOTE(ahenayau @ Jun 10 2013, 22:30)  use weaken for 2 & 3 girls (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Use konata for focus (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Weaken and focus? I use neither (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) . No deprecating spells and usually on IWBTH DwD I finish with 1 or 2 mana pots left. Light is awesome (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) . But yeah, it depends how close the girls are together if there are multiple ones. If they are on opposite ends you just set up PAx3 and frenzy one at a time. But with 2 or 3 close together try to get 3x or 2x on all of them, don't spend too much time setting it up though, it takes awhile to get into a groove where you can do this quickly with the num-pad. It's a lot easier now that we have pretty much 100% off-hand strike, lol. Turn on spirit and run through the skills one-by-one, saving up OC for frenzy doesn't matter anymore. Put the 3 skills together on the quickbar and just click on each one before you hit the number of the monster you want to attack, you can run through all 3 skills very quickly like this. QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Jun 11 2013, 00:16)  I don't DW much, so I don't understand this.. If you are attacking one girl at a time, how can you get PA to stack on multiple girls?
Obviously you have to attack all of them separately. This is why 7 turn rapiers are very important. With a high crit rate and high off-hand strike it stacks very quicky, pretty much in a couple seconds, then you move to the next and stack, sometimes if it takes too many turns you move back to the first one to refresh PA back to 7 turns. When it gets up to 3 girls you alternate your attacks between them a bunch always making sure PA refreshes before it gets too low, you have to have them at all 3 turns left at least before you start the skills. Seriously, dual-wield is more micro-managing than mage. Depending on the situation though sometimes it's more time efficient just to hack away (depending on how many mobs are left and where your OC is and such), especially with infusions on each weapon, and sometimes I just get lazy and don't feel like setting it up, lol. But scoring 3x PA frenzied on a couple schoolgirls if done right is faster time wise and far faster turn wise. Like I said though, it takes practice to get the hang of doing it with any kind of efficient speed. This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Jun 11 2013, 11:47
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Jun 11 2013, 12:48
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Factofu
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Guys, is there any good shop where I can some good equip for my level?
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Jun 11 2013, 12:54
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Factofu
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Better to say... any guidelines for a good piece of equip?
I'm DW with shade armor...
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Jun 11 2013, 13:28
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treesloth
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 6-January 13

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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Jun 11 2013, 18:25)  sometimes if it takes too many turns you move back to the first one to refresh PA back to 7 turns. When it gets up to 3 girls you alternate your attacks between them a bunch always making sure PA refreshes before it gets too low, you have to have them at all 3 turns left at least before you start the skills. Seriously, dual-wield is more micro-managing than mage.
ZOMG... sounds like so much work.... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) Thanks for the info though, (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jun 11 2013, 14:08
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Factofu
Group: Gold Star Club
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301 20 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 17152 void damage. 301 19 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 14651 void damage. 301 18 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 20546 void damage. 301 17 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 19117 void damage. 301 16 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 14651 void damage. 301 15 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 16259 void damage. 301 14 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 18581 void damage. 301 13 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 15723 void damage. 301 12 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 15365 void damage. 301 11 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 15901 void damage. 301 10 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 15365 void damage. 301 9 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 14472 void damage. 301 8 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 14472 void damage. 301 7 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 19117 void damage. 301 6 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 17509 void damage. 301 5 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 16080 void damage. 301 4 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 14293 void damage. 301 3 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 21082 void damage. 301 2 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 18760 void damage. 301 1 You use Frenzied Blows.
Is this normal? o.O
This post has been edited by pigowallace: Jun 11 2013, 14:10
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Jun 11 2013, 14:35
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Dan31
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QUOTE(pigowallace @ Jun 11 2013, 10:48)  My mana is drained at first turn due Heartseeker, Haste and Regen. I'm doing something wrong or I'm just a low level?
I always cast Heartseeker when Channelling only. I cast Regen when Channelling too if I can. QUOTE(pigowallace @ Jun 11 2013, 12:48)  Guys, is there any good shop where I can some good equip for my level?
Try the free shops. QUOTE(pigowallace @ Jun 11 2013, 12:54)  Better to say... any guidelines for a good piece of equip?
I'm DW with shade armor...
I advise you to play both Two-Handed and DW and switch depending on the situation. DW for the first few arenas, RoB and schoolgirl marathons, Two-Handed for everything else. I recommend a Club and Rapier combination for DW. Shade Prefixes should be of the Fleet/Shadowdancer. You can mix some Leather of Protection/Deflection if you lack good Shade. QUOTE(pigowallace @ Jun 11 2013, 14:08)  301 20 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 17152 void damage. ... 301 2 Frenzied Blows crits Invisible Pink Unicorn for 18760 void damage. 301 1 You use Frenzied Blows. Is this normal? o.O
Skills can crit now, yeah. QUOTE(pigowallace @ Jun 11 2013, 14:22)  Less than average Mana Conservation. So, I would say crappy. This post has been edited by Dan31: Jun 11 2013, 14:37
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Jun 11 2013, 15:02
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crute
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Jun 11 2013, 20:35)  Less than average Mana Conservation. So, I would say crappy.
Holy and Dark mages have been taken over by elemental mages. Moreover, you need to be at least lv250 to even consider maging with holy or dark, so no one who would like to holy/dark mage would even glance at that staff, as they'd be high level enough to afford much better katalox. Level and wealth aren't directly correlated (looks at self), but I reckon you have to be very rich to even consider holy/dark mage now, especially with the much lower prices of elemental gear. This post has been edited by cirrux: Jun 11 2013, 15:03
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