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May 16 2013, 16:39
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ May 16 2013, 20:49)  If people didn't switch to melee after the last patch, they for sure will after this next one. Thankfully I'm on my way with 2H heavy, but I still can't do IWTBH, which was the whole reason for the switch.... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) only two problem i think what you lacking , either PMI or Damage dealing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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May 16 2013, 17:57
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hhvvhhkkk
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want to point equipment to play the hentaiverse feel difficult so I hope some people can be free to give me some I am Chinese English is not good hope that our foreign friends can help me thank you
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May 16 2013, 18:25
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treesloth
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QUOTE(ahenayau @ May 16 2013, 23:39)  only two problem i think what you lacking , either PMI or Damage dealing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) My PMI is 72.7%, 60.5% MMI My damage is 3647 base, 129% hit chance, 38%crit, 31%parry, 13.8% resist, 84 interference, 77 burden Specific Mits: 32.4% crushing, 45.2% slashing, 43% piercing. My 2H and heavy armor profs are only at 225, 211, respectively. I am thinking I need >=80% PMI to play comfortably in IWTBH, and my damage dealing isn't that strong. What do you think? If you want to see my gear, let me know. Thanks in advance
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May 16 2013, 18:39
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pervdiz
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ May 16 2013, 18:25)  My PMI is 72.7%, 60.5% MMI My damage is 3647 base, 129% hit chance, 38%crit, 31%parry, 13.8% resist, 84 interference, 77 burden Specific Mits: 32.4% crushing, 45.2% slashing, 43% piercing.
My 2H and heavy armor profs are only at 225, 211, respectively.
I am thinking I need >=80% PMI to play comfortably in IWTBH, and my damage dealing isn't that strong.
What do you think? If you want to see my gear, let me know. Thanks in advance
My 2H base dmg is 2673.9 with kevlar and my unforged lv0 Estoc. And you are 80 lvls over me, so I'd say you're maybe a little low on damage. What weapon are you using?
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May 16 2013, 19:01
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PK678353
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ May 16 2013, 08:49)  If people didn't switch to melee after the last patch, they for sure will after this next one. Thankfully I'm on my way with 2H heavy, but I still can't do IWTBH, which was the whole reason for the switch.... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) Yeah, lets just say I'm glad this madness is happening now that I'm L250 and have sufficient resources to diversify my play style a bit and branch out into having Cold, Dark, Estoc/Heavy and FSM-killin' sets. If Tenboro keeps putting the patch off I might even be able to snag a real Estoc before the world goes to hell.
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May 16 2013, 19:11
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ May 16 2013, 23:25)  My PMI is 72.7%, 60.5% MMI My damage is 3647 base, 129% hit chance, 38%crit, 31%parry, 13.8% resist, 84 interference, 77 burden Specific Mits: 32.4% crushing, 45.2% slashing, 43% piercing.
My 2H and heavy armor profs are only at 225, 211, respectively.
I am thinking I need >=80% PMI to play comfortably in IWTBH, and my damage dealing isn't that strong.
What do you think? If you want to see my gear, let me know. Thanks in advance
my PMI is 2% below your PMI , but I'm very comfortable grinding arenas in IWBTH up to eternal darkness in daily play (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ( IWBTH DwD too boring so i skip this , maybe somedays when i have much free time ) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) i using full setup mag power protection & DW style (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) maybe your weapon is the problem (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) btw , what armor set that you use ? full plate or plate + slaughter ? This post has been edited by ahenayau: May 16 2013, 19:12
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May 16 2013, 20:42
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T_Starrk
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ May 16 2013, 08:25)  My PMI is 72.7%, 60.5% MMI My damage is 3647 base, 129% hit chance, 38%crit, 31%parry, 13.8% resist, 84 interference, 77 burden Specific Mits: 32.4% crushing, 45.2% slashing, 43% piercing.
My 2H and heavy armor profs are only at 225, 211, respectively.
I am thinking I need >=80% PMI to play comfortably in IWTBH, and my damage dealing isn't that strong.
What do you think? If you want to see my gear, let me know. Thanks in advance
Your stats aren't quite there yet for estoc/heavy IWBTH at your level. Basically you need this: over 5000 base damage over 40% crit over 35% parry specific mits should be higher too, crushing should be closer to 40% and slashing/piercing closer to 50% (for plate, power armor can be lower) I'd say you are good on PMI already, always try to push it higher though. Biggest issue is the damage I think, keep getting your prof higher and either find a better weapon, get some butchers on it, or get some slaughter bindings. This post has been edited by T_Starrk: May 16 2013, 22:03
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May 16 2013, 21:34
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Arxdewn
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ May 16 2013, 11:42)  Your stats aren't quite there yet for estoc/heavy IWBTH at your level. Basically you need this:
over 5000 base damage over 40% crit over 35% parry specific mits should be higher too, crushing should be closer to 40% and slashing/piercing closer to 50% I'd say you are good on PMI already, always try to push it higher though.
Biggest issue is the damage I think, keep getting your prof higher and either find a better weapon, get some butchers on it, or get some slaughter bindings.
Weapon damage is now so prohibitively expensive to upgrade. To double it's damage, that's 35,000,000c on today's market. That much money is affordable to maybe 2 dozen people.
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May 16 2013, 21:39
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Falbala456
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He can still work on it. More points in STR/DEX, better weapon, better str bonus on weapon/armor etc.
Even with only 150 DW prof (which is used for Niten) I have over 4200 base damage currently ~~.
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May 16 2013, 22:01
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T_Starrk
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QUOTE(Arxdewn @ May 16 2013, 11:34)  Weapon damage is now so prohibitively expensive to upgrade. To double it's damage, that's 35,000,000c on today's market. That much money is affordable to maybe 2 dozen people.
I try not to think of the total cost, lol. Just a little at a time, I've only gotten 20 slaughter bindings on my estoc and it's enough for IWBTH arenas.
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May 16 2013, 22:58
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treesloth
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QUOTE(pervdiz @ May 17 2013, 01:39)  My 2H base dmg is 2673.9 with kevlar and my unforged lv0 Estoc. And you are 80 lvls over me, so I'd say you're maybe a little low on damage.
What weapon are you using?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=52de94b4e2QUOTE(PK678353 @ May 17 2013, 02:01)  I might even be able to snag a real Estoc before the world goes to hell.
You should get one now. There are 3 ExqEthEstocs at auction at the moment. There might be a MagEthEstoc on auction also? QUOTE(ahenayau @ May 17 2013, 02:11)  my PMI is 2% below your PMI , but I'm very comfortable grinding arenas in IWBTH up to eternal darkness in daily play (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) full plate or plate + slaughter ? The fact that your PMI is lower than mine, and you can coast in IWTBH, means something is wrong with my setup; maybe DW gives you more defense then 2H? They aren't anything special, just bread and butter plates: HelmetCuirassGauntletsGreavesSabatonsSo my idea that I could play IWTBH with high PMI, but low damage is flawed? In essence, I need to have good PMI (70%), but massive damage output. So that is probably why high level players go with 4 plates and one high damage power of slaughter? QUOTE(T_Starrk @ May 17 2013, 03:42)  Your stats aren't quite there yet for estoc/heavy IWBTH at your level. Basically you need this: over 5000 base damage specific mits should be higher too, crushing should be closer to 40% and slashing/piercing closer to 50% (for plate, power armor can be lower) I'd say you are good on PMI already, always try to push it higher though.
Biggest issue is the damage I think, keep getting your prof higher and either find a better weapon, get some butchers on it, or get some slaughter bindings.
Also, I doubt I can get any Binding of slaughters at the moment. 200k each is too much for me. Thanks again for all the suggestions/help. This post has been edited by treesloth16: May 17 2013, 01:15
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May 17 2013, 00:34
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PK678353
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ May 16 2013, 15:58)  You should get one now. There are 3 ExqEthEstocs at auction at the moment. There might be a MagEthEstoc on auction also?
Four actually. Got all those auctions ready in tabs (though they end Saturday morning, it's going to be really damn annoying to be awake then).
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May 17 2013, 00:35
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treesloth
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ May 17 2013, 07:34)  Four actually. Got all those auctions ready in tabs (though they end Saturday morning, it's going to be really damn annoying to be awake then).
Good Luck!!! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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May 17 2013, 01:35
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s0rr0wful
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Hey people, need some advice D: IWBTH is pretty hard for me to play, even though i have been trying to get good stuff... Also im kinda slow.. I'm lvl 110.. Anyway those are my stats: 1849.4 Base Damage, 125.2% Hit Chance, 20.3% Crit Chance 49.1% PMI, 33,2% MMI 18,6% Crushing, 22,7 Slashing, 24% Piercing 0% Evade, 0% Block, 9,2% Parry, 2,9% Resist 109.9 Interference 86.6 Burden Here's my stuff.. WeaponHelmetArmorGauntletsLeggingsBootsI usually play in Nintendo This post has been edited by s0rr0wful: May 17 2013, 01:38
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May 17 2013, 03:13
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ May 17 2013, 03:58)  http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=52de94b4e2You should get one now. There are 3 ExqEthEstocs at auction at the moment. There might be a MagEthEstoc on auction also? The fact that your PMI is lower than mine, and you can coast in IWTBH, means something is wrong with my setup; maybe DW gives you more defense then 2H? They aren't anything special, just bread and butter plates: HelmetCuirassGauntletsGreavesSabatonsSo my idea that I could play IWTBH with high PMI, but low damage is flawed? In essence, I need to have good PMI (70%), but massive damage output. So that is probably why high level players go with 4 plates and one high damage power of slaughter? Also, I doubt I can get any Binding of slaughters at the moment. 200k each is too much for me. Thanks again for all the suggestions/help. i think most high lvl use 3 power slaughter + 2 plate (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) HTTP maybe use full slaughter set , he can finish 1 legendary IWBTH IW run less than 10 minutes (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) very amazing speed (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) QUOTE(s0rr0wful @ May 17 2013, 06:35)  Hey people, need some advice D: IWBTH is pretty hard for me to play, even though i have been trying to get good stuff... Also im kinda slow.. I'm lvl 110.. Anyway those are my stats: 1849.4 Base Damage, 125.2% Hit Chance, 20.3% Crit Chance 49.1% PMI, 33,2% MMI 18,6% Crushing, 22,7 Slashing, 24% Piercing 0% Evade, 0% Block, 9,2% Parry, 2,9% Resist 109.9 Interference 86.6 Burden Here's my stuff.. WeaponHelmetArmorGauntletsLeggingsBootsI usually play in Nintendo wait till your lvl near 300 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) scythe is a bad weapon choice in high difficulty like BT & IWBTH (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) mace is better than scythe in term of safety (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) estoc surpass scythe in term of damage (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) your equipment is not good enough to play at IWBTH & your lack of SS ability (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) This post has been edited by ahenayau: May 17 2013, 03:25
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May 17 2013, 05:06
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treesloth
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QUOTE(ahenayau @ May 17 2013, 10:13)  i think most high lvl use 3 power slaughter + 2 plate (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) HTTP maybe use full slaughter set , he can finish 1 legendary IWBTH IW run less than 10 minutes (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) 10min for 200levels at IWTBH is just mind-boggling. Thanks for the tips!
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May 17 2013, 05:39
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s0rr0wful
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QUOTE wait till your lvl near 300
scythe is a bad weapon choice in high difficulty like BT & IWBTH mace is better than scythe in term of safety estoc surpass scythe in term of damage
your equipment is not good enough to play at IWBTH & your lack of SS ability Thanks for the advices c:
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May 17 2013, 05:56
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Lement
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@kira: Melee, such a feat is utterly impossible for mage and melees are more suited for high difficulties anyway. What matters most is where you life, after that what browser you use, what are your settings how the computer connects to the net and what-if any- scripts you run.
I'd guess that he can still go faster though.
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