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when you playing IWBTH , proc chance is more important ( PA ) than duration (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

duration only important for me in FSM & eternal darkness or DwD coz more than one schoolgirls (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

No idea. Even the Shielding Runes & Infusion of Gaia have all been cleared.
Highly suspect the "when you least expect it" & "shortly coming" patch may be released soon in preparation.

Meaning they were purchased on patch speculation? Or just put out to pasture by Tenboro, for whatever reasons he wants in advance of the patch? Either approach blames the patch I guess.

Which is more important for a weapon, proc chance or proc duration?

From what I've experienced, and seen posted by others in this thread, it all depends...surprise, surprise. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Fore example, in my DWing, I want my OH rapier to "durate"...the proc is gonna happen since I'm focusing on one monster at a time, but good duration allows the PA proc to pile up 2x and 3x and accelerate the killing. I'd prefer a 18% 7 turn rapier than a 25% 4 turn one.

In my 2Hing...with a mace, sad but true...I think I prefer chance...more important to get that stun in place than it's actual duration, which can be managed. Although it's pretty easy to obtain maces with both high chance and max duration. Rapier is a much more tricky balance.

I got my hands on Superior arctic estoc of the illithid, thanks to Wolfgirl, and tried it on several random encounters in nintendo difficulty. Encounter that I could easily do with my previous shortsword + waki build. And the result is terribad. Without the 44% parry from DW, I take a lot of damage. Not unmanageable, but I also hit like my weapon is made of wet toilet paper, 6-8 hits to kill each mob. And 2H are supposed to have at least 40% chance of triggering domino, but it barely happened a few times, and for a negligible result.
It feels like the difficulty level is cranked up a rank or two.

So, back in DW for now. Possibly forever.

I got my hands on Superior arctic estoc of the illithid, thanks to Wolfgirl, and tried it on several random encounters in nintendo difficulty. Encounter that I could easily do with my previous shortsword + waki build. And the result is terribad. Without the 44% parry from DW, I take a lot of damage. Not unmanageable, but I also hit like my weapon is made of wet toilet paper, 6-8 hits to kill each mob. And 2H are supposed to have at least 40% chance of triggering domino, but it barely happened a few times, and for a negligible result.
It feels like the difficulty level is cranked up a rank or two.

So, back in DW for now. Possibly forever.

you need to grind your 2H prof first (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
2H weapon need to combine with high PMI armor ( plate ) or kevlar if you are light user (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I got my hands on Superior arctic estoc of the illithid, thanks to Wolfgirl, and tried it on several random encounters in nintendo difficulty. Encounter that I could easily do with my previous shortsword + waki build. And the result is terribad. Without the 44% parry from DW, I take a lot of damage. Not unmanageable, but I also hit like my weapon is made of wet toilet paper, 6-8 hits to kill each mob. And 2H are supposed to have at least 40% chance of triggering domino, but it barely happened a few times, and for a negligible result.
It feels like the difficulty level is cranked up a rank or two.

So, back in DW for now. Possibly forever.

If you're doing that you should go for the optimal build. Rapier in offhand and axe/club mainhand. PA gives more damage and rapiers have very good parry and accuracy. Club gives survivability while axe gives more damage.

I still have my old set I used to use at your level. I'll send that over so u can try it out.

This one is the highest I've ever seen...

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=715283aad6

Yah, I saw that and was amazed; by far the highest I'd seen yet.

Anyone know how to access the HV game without getting to the e-hentai.org frontpage? I'm in another country, and I'm blocked....

Anyone know how to access the HV game without getting to the e-hentai.org frontpage? I'm in another country, and I'm blocked....

hentaiverse.org

hentaiverse.org

Still blocked.... Thank you though

honestly, from my point of view i believe duration is more important. You can get the proc on a crit, which is quite a bit more likely than the proc percentage.

Pretty much this. The higher and higher your crit gets, the less important proc percentage becomes. Duration is mainly important for RoB and schoolgirl arenas though, running out of PA on FSM is very fucking annoying, high proc turns are a must for rapiers (I don't think I've ever loss the 3x PA with a 7 turn rapier). Of course it is best to have both high percentage and high turns though if you can.

Yah, I saw that and was amazed; by far the highest I'd seen yet.

I wonder what the base PXP is for Hito's Owl staff. I know the last level was like 8000 PXP almost (even a 358 legendary is only like 5500 at the last level). But that staff is a pre-nerf relic...

This post has been edited by T_Starrk: May 6 2013, 01:26

I got my hands on Superior arctic estoc of the illithid, thanks to Wolfgirl, and tried it on several random encounters in nintendo difficulty. Encounter that I could easily do with my previous shortsword + waki build. And the result is terribad. Without the 44% parry from DW, I take a lot of damage. Not unmanageable, but I also hit like my weapon is made of wet toilet paper, 6-8 hits to kill each mob. And 2H are supposed to have at least 40% chance of triggering domino, but it barely happened a few times, and for a negligible result.
It feels like the difficulty level is cranked up a rank or two.

So, back in DW for now. Possibly forever.

I don't think you're getting good advice for your level/prof. The thing is, if you haven't trained 2h already, then you need to train that shit and doing it with a weak weapon is not the way to do it. You need something with high damage and at your level you shouldn't worry about PA.

i've just shrined a 348 mag and i thought of this post.
mid grade metal, ffs...

Damn. I have been recording the results of whatever I have salvaged the last few days. Tier included I've gotten:
1 Low from a PXP316 Cotton item.
1 High from a PXP320 Gossamer item.
1 High from a PXP326 OH Tier 1 item.

Mids drop from PXP305-325

I have only salvaged items PXP305 to PXP325 so far.

This one is the highest I've ever seen...

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=715283aad6

And here I thought the limit was at 364.

Too late for patch being applied today, so the closest possible time is next weekend.

So, what makes you think the patch will have to happen until next weekend since the day is almost over?

This post has been edited by kakashi524: May 6 2013, 01:57

I don't think you're getting good advice for your level/prof. The thing is, if you haven't trained 2h already, then you need to train that shit and doing it with a weak weapon is not the way to do it. You need something with high damage and at your level you shouldn't worry about PA.

I never liked 2H when I was at lower levels and I switched to DW until now because of the higher survivability and cheaper items. A good DW set is much cheaper than a good 2H weapon, and you're still getting the same plate armor that you'll use when you switch to 2H so I think a transition from DW to 2H is a pretty good choice if he's planning on doing that. Although I do admit, my estoc clears much faster than my DW set but finding a good Estoc for cheap isn't easy.

If he wants to DW he should do it.

And I still stand by my rapier recommendation. It gives parry and offhand chance, which means survivability and even more damage because of PA which doesn't fall off as you level up. Shortswords are just a worse version of rapiers, daggers don't give enough damage, and whoever uses clubs and axes in offhand?

Still blocked.... Thank you though

Change your DNS settings to Google's DNS, or search for other DNS servers outside the country you're in (but not OpenDNS because they suck).

Failing that, install Tor Browser Bundle and hope TenB doesn't think you're trying to bot or something.

So..I've been messing around on this for some time. Currently going 2-h club w/ light armor..doing pretty well, but I'd like a second opinion.



Trying to go by the advice on the wiki, but is there anything I can improve?



Also, is there anything I could do w/ my equipment? Currently working towards a full kevlar.


Thanks for your time!

@treesloth

if google DNS still fail , then try to install hotspot shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)




@front

reset your ability , you don't need that poison (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
invest to haste and put some ability into MP tank (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
( you maybe need to train some ability boost )


for equipment , if you want to use light armor with 2H than use full kevlar with protection suffix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

try to wolfgirl free shop in WTS to get some free kevlar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by ahenayau: May 6 2013, 06:14

@treesloth

if google DNS still fail , then try to install hotspot shield (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
@front

reset your ability , you don't need that poison (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
invest to haste and put some ability into MP tank (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
( you maybe need to train some ability boost )
for equipment , if you want to use light armor with 2H than use full kevlar with protection suffix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

try to wolfgirl free shop in WTS to get some free kevlar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Alright, thanks for the feedback! I'll go try that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

what lvl should i start using holy/dark spells? i'm using fire/ice atm with my ice having an 90% bonus dmg.

if i were to switch to holy/dark which spell type should i pump the bonus points into? holy or dark?

what lvl should i start using holy/dark spells? i'm using fire/ice atm with my ice having an 90% bonus dmg.

if i were to switch to holy/dark which spell type should i pump the bonus points into? holy or dark?

As soon as you've got the requisite gear and spells. Holy and Dark are pretty well balanced against each other. Holy is better for low difficulty grinding since you've got Purge and stronger Cures (even my hideously bad Heimdall set Cures for 70% of my total HP, and that's only running 3 pieces of Phase). Dark is better at high difficulties, because of the slightly better resist profile in both theory and practice and the proc reduces the amount of incoming rape, slightly.

You're fine with Elemental until you start to hit somewhere in the 220-240 range (depending on difficulty), when the mobs with 25 base resistance start to become serious PITA material.

This post has been edited by PK678353: May 6 2013, 09:58

So..I've been messing around on this for some time. Currently going 2-h club w/ light armor..doing pretty well, but I'd like a second opinion.



Trying to go by the advice on the wiki, but is there anything I can improve?
Also, is there anything I could do w/ my equipment? Currently working towards a full kevlar.


Thanks for your time!

I think if you are going to use mace with light armor then full shade is the way to go. With mace it is nice to have the extra offensive stats that shade provides plus the AOE stun goes very well with a high evade set-up. Also if you want to continue to use light you need an ethereal mace, right now your burden is way too high for light and crushing damage just gets worse and worse as you level.