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From all the salvaging i've done so far it seems like the range is around there:
pxp 000-265 = default failure
pxp 266-288 Low-grade
pxp 289-313 Mid-grade
pxp 314-340+ High-grade

Superiors do give HG but pretty much only the very high end one's with 314-316 pxp,
and even then the chances are only like 10% at best or less
usually 330+ gets me an HG, although only like 40% of the time, the other 60% being either MG or LG

you will have alot of HG since you have alot of your random MAG , xtecth (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

last time i salvage my pxp 319 exq axe , i got MG metal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)



@HNTI

i'm pure DW user , my 2H prof just around 30 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
for 2H equipment comparison , you maybe want to ask xtecth coz he have legendary estoc of slaugther (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
if you are using mace , try to ask aurabolt (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

This post has been edited by ahenayau: May 1 2013, 07:02

pxp 000-265 = default failure
pxp 266-288 Low-grade
pxp 289-313 Mid-grade
pxp 314-340+ High-grade

How about we build an expectation table based on the list? i.e. allow overlapping. The salvaging table seems to work like the monster gift table i.e. at a certain PXP, there's a certain chance to drop LG/MG/HG respectively.

pxp 000-265 = default failure
pxp 266-288 = Low-grade
pxp 289-330 = Mid-grade
pxp 314-340+ High-grade

330 -> mid is from kakashi524.

Maybe a giant data-collection thread would be good for this?

How about we build an expectation table based on the list? i.e. allow overlapping. The salvaging table seems to work like the monster gift table i.e. at a certain PXP, there's a certain chance to drop LG/MG/HG respectively.
330 -> mid is from kakashi524.

An expectation table would be really helpful for one to decide whether they should just gamble for a mat or bazaar it off.

Maybe this would seem more correct
pxp 000-265 = Default failure
pxp 266-340+ Low-grade (anything above pxp 289 is most likely a guaranteed LG)
pxp 289-340+ Mid-grade (and anything above pxp 313 is almost a guaranteed MG)
pxp 314-340+ High-grade (i'm not too certain what's the guaranteed point for HG but it seems to be in the 350+ range)

From my experiences, salvaging all sorts of equip pieces ranging from pxp 265-360.
I haven't ever gotten an HG from an equip with a pxp of 313 or lower, so i'd probably assume the bare minimum to receive an HG, starts at pxp 314,
although i could be wrong, maybe it is possible to get an HG from something
with a pxp of 313? if it does give an HG then the chance is probably around 1% or less.

I've only ever salvaged 2 legendaries with pxp above 360+, 1 gave me an HG the other gave me an MG.
I don't know if LG's still exist in that range, since i don't have enough equips with pxp that high to test with.

This post has been edited by xtech22: May 1 2013, 08:56

What is the current trend for DW? Club+Rapier?

What is the current trend for DW? Club+Rapier?

light with club/rapier
heavy with axe/rapier

How about we build an expectation table based on the list? i.e. allow overlapping. The salvaging table seems to work like the monster gift table i.e. at a certain PXP, there's a certain chance to drop LG/MG/HG respectively.
330 -> mid is from kakashi524.

That seems to be the case, we know 314 equipment can net HG and I do remember 317 PXP Exquisites giving me LG only, so there is overlap in that range.

Could it be that there's factors other than PXP/quality (I'm saying this but I've no clue how that relates to rolls)?

I've only ever salvaged 2 legendaries with pxp above 360+, 1 gave me an HG the other gave me an MG.
I don't know if LG's still exist in that range, since i don't have enough equips with pxp that high to test with.

That is brutal, you'd expect legendaries (360 ones on top of that) to always give HG... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

even by common roll alone such as
(random 1 to 300) + pxp
where 1<=none<300<=low<450<=mid<550<=high
overlapping is possible

only ten knows if there's other factor involved such as item tier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

@ahenayau: I use emmmmmm everything ? For shit & lolz I raise my low proficiency (DW & 2h) just in case I may switch to one of these game styles, but so far I can't compare them to maging as my proficiencies are about 50 % of my level.

light with club/rapier
heavy with axe/rapier

I guess I do something very wrong playing DW with axe & rapier.

This post has been edited by HNTI: May 1 2013, 15:36

I read it recently as well, on PK678353's user talk page if I recall correctly. But being >300 doesn't "guarantee" a HG mat, unless forge exp changes salvage rates. I've salvaged a few since I read that and gotten lots of MG, no HG.

>300 really doesn't guarantee much of anything, but it will get you a mat usually, and MG often enough to be worth more than just dumping it on the Bazaar. T1 Superiors Bazaar for more than a LG but much less than a MG, so that was about the balance point where the gamble paid off on average.

Since when I wrote that, equipment sell value has doubled and MG mat prices have fallen by about half. However, I think about 300 still works as a basic rule of thumb for T1 equipment. T2/3 you just Bazaar because of the credit multipliers on those.

Any value in these three items:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e0d2b5a086

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0ebb62cd54

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=5ba58dbb63

hmmm,
Anything at all?

to help with the data collection
331 pxp Exq. Cotton Pants
Yeilded Mid-Grade Cloth (and I'm out 5,000cr from the bazaar.)

So, ya. Mid-Grade still possible from a pxp that high... >_<

Can I haz my Cr back no Snowflake, for my generosity in attempting to provide information>

to help with the data collection
331 pxp Exq. Cotton Pants
Yeilded Mid-Grade Cloth (and I'm out 5,000cr from the bazaar.)

So, ya. Mid-Grade still possible from a pxp that high... >_<

Can I haz my Cr back no Snowflake, for my generosity in attempting to provide information>

lol
not even legendaries are guaranteed HG mats, you had decent chances with this gamble but it didn't pay off. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

to help with the data collection
331 pxp Exq. Cotton Pants
Yeilded Mid-Grade Cloth (and I'm out 5,000cr from the bazaar.)

So, ya. Mid-Grade still possible from a pxp that high... >_<

Can I haz my Cr back no Snowflake, for my generosity in attempting to provide information>

5k for exquisite cotton? No way. Even exquisite second tier will rarely reach over 4k (only the highest pxp exquisite 2nd tiers will). Plus the mg is worth about 1k so you are out less than you think. One HG cotton will net you about 25-30k so you will always come out on top eventually from salvaging exquisite first tiers like cotton. Anyway, as for legendary giving mg, I know it has happened before TenB made getting higher quality tiers easier, but has anybody salvaged a legendary recently and gotten a mg (like in the last month)?

5k for exquisite cotton? No way. Even exquisite second tier will rarely reach over 4k (only the highest pxp exquisite 2nd tiers will). Plus the mg is worth about 1k so you are out less than you think. One HG cotton will net you about 25-30k so you will always come out on top eventually from salvaging exquisite first tiers like cotton. Anyway, as for legendary giving mg, I know it has happened before TenB made getting higher quality tiers easier, but has anybody salvaged a legendary recently and gotten a mg (like in the last month)?

I salvaged a really high level mag shortsword, and got an MG about two months ago.

Hello

Can a high level mage player tell me how much its worth ? Thanks

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a7c8e16248

Hello

Can a high level mage player tell me how much its worth ? Thanks

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a7c8e16248

A lot of money. Mag max EDB Fenrir, with pretty good (though not great) Evade, Int and Wis rolls. But umm yeah, MAG MAX EDB. That alone makes it worth a good chunk of cash.

@ahenayau: I use emmmmmm everything ? For shit & lolz I raise my low proficiency (DW & 2h) just in case I may switch to one of these game styles, but so far I can't compare them to maging as my proficiencies are about 50 % of my level.
I guess I do something very wrong playing DW with axe & rapier.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) ?

what is the use of forge exp?

what is the use of forge exp?

With higher forge level, you can further upgrade your equips and get a higher return rate upon salvaging equips.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/The_Forge#Forge_Level