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post Apr 29 2013, 17:50
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Apr 29 2013, 07:41) *

I could live with that.


It's too bad nerfing estocs means rapiers get hit with the same nerf bat as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) .

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post Apr 29 2013, 18:01
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Apr 29 2013, 17:50) *

It's too bad nerfing estocs means rapiers get hit with the same nerf bat as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) .


I'm a hardcore mace user. I've already been nerfed to hell and back.

OACUN: just followed a bit of the live chat for the very first time, it's... mindboggling. To say the least.
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post Apr 29 2013, 19:39
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Estocs and plates aren't actually being nerfed are they? Because that would suck. All my money has been invested in those two things. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Apr 29 2013, 20:16
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Apr 29 2013, 18:01) *

I'm a hardcore mace user. I've already been nerfed to hell and back.

OACUN: just followed a bit of the live chat for the very first time, it's... mindboggling. To say the least.

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Mace to the monster's face forever!
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post Apr 29 2013, 20:49
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Will the era of the OP Mace return?

(IMG:[images2.wikia.nocookie.net] http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120512012603/darksiders/images/5/57/Enchanted_Mace.jpg)
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post Apr 29 2013, 21:24
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QUOTE(Apocalypse Horsemen @ Apr 29 2013, 18:49) *

Will the era of the OP Mace return?

(IMG:[images2.wikia.nocookie.net] http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120512012603/darksiders/images/5/57/Enchanted_Mace.jpg)


no way an arctic mace is OP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Apr 29 2013, 21:26
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Apr 30 2013, 03:24) *

no way an arctic mace is OP (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


How about this one? Better?

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post Apr 29 2013, 21:46
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QUOTE(Apocalypse Horsemen @ Apr 29 2013, 21:26) *

new prefix for melee weapons!

Darksteel!

+burden, but massive + critical and damage!
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post Apr 29 2013, 22:14
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[11:10:10] <tenboro> I'm only massively nerfing estocs and heavy armor to the point where no one will ever want to use them again in fear that it will bring shame upon their family
[11:10:12] <fahentai> you just feel that?
[11:10:17] <tenboro> .. not really, but hey


Mages are already nerferd, heavy users will be nerfed. We can just wait till he nerfs light armor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif). Does he want us to stop playing or what ? I guess I'm going be sitting on m money till the situation will be clearer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif).
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post Apr 29 2013, 22:39
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Apr 29 2013, 22:14) *

Mages are already nerferd, heavy users will be nerfed. We can just wait till he nerfs light armor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif). Does he want us to stop playing or what ? I guess I'm going be sitting on m money till the situation will be clearer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif).

Maybe the servers are getting tired of hosting us in their digital innards and are pressuring Tenb to slowly destroy the HVerse so we go somewhere else?
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post Apr 29 2013, 22:57
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[11:10:10] <tenboro> I'm only massively nerfing estocs and heavy armor to the point where no one will ever want to use them again in fear that it will bring shame upon their family
[11:10:12] <fahentai> you just feel that?
[11:10:17] <tenboro> .. not really, but hey


But, but, but. . . Frith Holy Mages now damn it! I thought it was finally safe to train up 2H/Heavy Prof. . .


QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Apr 29 2013, 10:50) *

It's too bad nerfing estocs means rapiers get hit with the same nerf bat as well (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) .

I feel you on that one. Every Holy/Dark nerf is an Elemental nerf too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Apr 30 2013, 00:17
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How is Holy/Dark nerf, elemental nerf?

For that matter,

why is it called Forbidden proffiicency, when its dealing "Dark" damage, make em both the same (same think with Holy/Divine)
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post Apr 30 2013, 00:33
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why is it called Forbidden proffiicency, when its dealing "Dark" damage, make em both the same (same think with Holy/Divine)


Probably just for its cool name. Simple as that.

Question : What more likely to happen
a) IWBTH with 2h & heavy gear
or
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) IWBTH 2*1 ?

Some numbers which may help :

2*1 h:

Physical attack
3372.3 base damage
144.4 % hit chance
37.5 % crit chance

Damage mitigation
52.6 % physical
49.9 % magical
Avoidance
39.5 % evade
0 % block
37.3 % parry
52.6 % resist

2h+ heavy :

Physical attack
2750 base damage
108.7 % hit chance
14.2 % crit chance

Damage mitigation
69.7 % physical
58.3 % magical
Avoidance
0 % evade
3.3 % block
18.6 % parry
13.3 % resist

By clearing IWBTH I mean more than 50 rounds. 2*1 is quite promising, but when I have to face more than 5 monsters...I have a problem with survivability.
Heavy armour * 2h mace stunning is also promising, at least to grind proficiencies (Two-handed 141.03 Dual wielding 131.14y- working on them).
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post Apr 30 2013, 00:43
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Apr 29 2013, 17:17) *

How is Holy/Dark nerf, elemental nerf?

For that matter,

why is it called Forbidden proffiicency, when its dealing "Dark" damage, make em both the same (same think with Holy/Divine)



Simple enough. Mage nerfs certainly aren't done to keep my ass in check, they're aimed at more powerful players, who are heavily Holy/Dark. Elemental mages get hit with the same nerfbat, just like an PA nerf to smack Estoc will hit Rapiers as well. Shit's connected, see?
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post Apr 30 2013, 03:37
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i am meele fighter with 2H weapon lvl123
my equip are like this
[http] Superior Ethereal Mace of slaughter
[http] Fine Shade Helmet of the Fleet
supperior shade breastplate of the fleet
average shade gauntlet of negation
Fine Shade legging of the fleet
Fine boots shade of the shadowdancer
do you think i should just go for the IW or buy new equipment with better quality?
cause it becomes harder to clear the arena even in the normal difficult mode. above lvl 100+ arena
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post Apr 30 2013, 03:53
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So I took the advice from yesterday. I have new equipment, I've reallocated my abilities and made my attributes more even. [imgur.com] Stats

I know have:
Fine ebony staff of destruction
Superior Phase Cap Of Mjolnir
Superior Phase Robe Of Mjolnir
Exquisite Phase Gloves Of Mjolnir
Exquisite Phase Pants Of Mjolnir
Superior Phase Shoes Of Mjolnir

Two new questions:
1. At what point should I worry about my proficiencies? I have assimilator 1 but the next rank costs 100k which feels like a lot at this point.
2. It was mentioned that I may eventually want to invest in spirit tanks. Why is that? All I'm using it for right now is spark of life.

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post Apr 30 2013, 04:13
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QUOTE(James Tyler @ Apr 29 2013, 20:53) *

So I took the advice from yesterday. I have new equipment, I've reallocated my abilities and made my attributes more even. [imgur.com] Stats

I know have:
Fine ebony staff of destruction
Superior Phase Cap Of Mjolnir
Superior Phase Robe Of Mjolnir
Exquisite Phase Gloves Of Mjolnir
Exquisite Phase Pants Of Mjolnir
Superior Phase Shoes Of Mjolnir

Two new questions:
1. At what point should I worry about my proficiencies? I have assimilator 1 but the next rank costs 100k which feels like a lot at this point.
2. It was mentioned that I may eventually want to invest in spirit tanks. Why is that? All I'm using it for right now is spark of life.



Don't worry about your profs too much. They catch up, and your attack prof wil end up at 90%+ of your level once you're into the 200s. Spirit Tanks are obviously useful for more Sparks before needing a pot (longer arenas mean more times to get RNG screwed and die because 5 mobs hit you at once). Spirit Shield can also put SP to good use (if you get skill critted with SS up, there's a pretty good chance you just saved 30% base SP).
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post Apr 30 2013, 04:19
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QUOTE(k1r4y4m4t0 @ Apr 29 2013, 17:37) *

do you think i should just go for the IW or buy new equipment with better quality?
cause it becomes harder to clear the arena even in the normal difficult mode. above lvl 100+ arena


IW is way too much of a hassle and not worth it for your equips anyways. You should be able to do normal modes at the very least and if you can't IW won't help you because the increases in stats are negligible at your level. Get better items. It should be cheap considering your items aren't all that great tbh. A few ten thousand creds should be more than enough to upgrade your items and then some. Even free item shops could have some upgrades for you.

Personally I just spent around 300k at your level bought a bunch of exquisite plates and it lasted me till right now.

QUOTE(James Tyler @ Apr 29 2013, 17:53) *

Two new questions:
1. At what point should I worry about my proficiencies? I have assimilator 1 but the next rank costs 100k which feels like a lot at this point.
2. It was mentioned that I may eventually want to invest in spirit tanks. Why is that? All I'm using it for right now is spark of life.


1. Proficiency don't matter that much at all. They all catch up with you sooner or later when leveling slows down. Although you should keep your depreciating up to speck but even then it isn't that important. Half your level is the minimum.
2. I would think its because Spark takes half of your spirit per use so more spirit would mean more activation? Don't quote me on that. I don't know shit about mages and rarely use spark anyways.

PK678353 too fast for me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Apr 30 2013, 06:14
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what is the difference among
evade
block
parry
resist
i already read the EHwiki. but i dont get it.
thanks
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post Apr 30 2013, 06:19
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QUOTE(k1r4y4m4t0 @ Apr 30 2013, 06:14) *

what is the difference among
evade
block
parry
resist
i already read the EHwiki. but i dont get it.
thanks


Evade has a chance to evade any form of damage against you,

block is for physical attacks

parry is like block, but reflects damage back to the monster you parried

resist is like block; but for magical attacks.
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