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Apr 27 2013, 16:06
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Wega993
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Can't figure out what I should be going for... Even though I use wind mostly, and have upgraded it a lot, my elec spell still seems to do more damage, I guess it's simply because of the resistances being lowered with the status effect. I guess I went the wrong way about it, and should get cold to compliment my wind spell? I'm doing fine with my current build and still somehow manage random encounter IWBTH. Maybe I should wait till tier 3 for the switch, where status effects happen 75% of the time. It's recommended in the advice page on wiki that I get holy/dark from level 150 on. Would that be both of them? And should I still keep my elemental spells? My guess would be yes to the first, no to the second, but still want to make sure. Also why is it first recommended to get soul until 250, when it seems fewest monsters have resistances against it? Is it because items that give soul damage are rarer? Any ideas on what would be effective without taking an exorbitant amount of time? Here are my stats etc. [ media.share.pho.to] http://media.share.pho.to/1zsSf/d264fe83_o.png[ media.share.pho.to] http://media.share.pho.to/1zsUG/4ba64a42_o.png[ media.share.pho.to] http://media.share.pho.to/1zsWc/4dd94a81_o.png
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Apr 27 2013, 16:10
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letmegitdat
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Apr 27 2013, 15:01)  well, i'm not an english native speaker but it seemed clear enough to me. you said that it was better to open with the T1 aoe before your main element instead of opening with your main element and then going for the next one. If your main element is elec (like I was); then you want wind + elec.i think that save for particular situations, like when your main concern is saving mana and you can shrug off the incoming damage, this is the wrong way to go since leaving all the enemies alive and attacking you back in order to have a more powerful nuke on your second cast doesn't seem a smart idea. X% increase to your most damaging spell vs X% increase of your low damage spellalso, if you open with a T1 the chance of getting the elemental status effect is really low (25%) so you won't actually get any damage increase against most of the monsters. maybe it was you that couldn't explain yourself well enough. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ok that is possible. but it was a direct response to "wind+elec vs fire+elec" QUOTE besides if you use fire, you have to open elec, then cast fire...because opening fire doesn't benefit elec... its better to use cheapest aoe wind, then go to town with best elec on mob with Coalesced Mana. what I meant was: wind THEN elec > elec THEN fire > fire THEN elec wind THEN elec (proc from secondary boost primary spell elec) elec THEN fire (proc from primary boosts secondary spell fire) fire THEN elec (no benefit) the question was NOT "should I cast primary or secondary first" does that make more sense? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) unless you are saying its better to cast fire before elec...then I give up This post has been edited by letmegitdat: Apr 27 2013, 16:13
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Apr 27 2013, 16:40
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Malenk
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anyone using the monster lab additions script?
i started using it about a week ago and it's great, but i don't quite get why a few of my monsters don't get the pale blue bar. is it a bug or there is a reason? they have all given me gifts since i installed the script.
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Apr 27 2013, 17:47
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ennamyce
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Is there a point to keeping both SoL and SS up at the same time?
@Malek: happens to me as well, must be a bug
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Apr 27 2013, 17:48
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ennamyce
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oh god what hell is wrong with this board's software
>click on edit >edit gets submitted as a reply instead >can't even delete posts
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Apr 27 2013, 17:48
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Apr 27 2013, 17:48
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Apr 27 2013, 17:49
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ennamyce
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Apr 27 2013, 17:56
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Wega993
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Quintuple post?....
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Apr 27 2013, 22:18
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Nightwishman
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Im going to guess...that even with really good stats, an exquisite ethereal dagger is useless?
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Apr 27 2013, 22:34
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blue penguin
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Apr 27 2013, 21:18)  Im going to guess...that even with really good stats, an exquisite ethereal dagger is useless?
Sometimes I use two ethereal daggers of the nimble with parry >25 (one exq dagger and one superior) together with some shade. But only sometimes, to grind DW prof. Yet, I would dump them if good wakizashis dropped. This post has been edited by blue penguin: Apr 27 2013, 22:37
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Apr 27 2013, 22:42
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eramosat
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Apr 27 2013, 16:18)  Im going to guess...that even with really good stats, an exquisite ethereal dagger is useless?
Probably. The better your gear is, the less useful a dagger is. But they can be useful, even in higher-level player's gears. Myself, if I get one, I check: is it balance? parry is the only other thing suffix worth considering. what's the proc chance and duration? what's the accuracy and crit? and what PABS does it have? If it competes with good rapiers, then I make sure other players get a chance to use it themselves for DW OH. And maybe someday I'll get one I can equip myself. But the chances are it's probably not good...daggers just don't get much respect, even though they're 100% concealable, and which makes no difference in this world. Even 1 turn of speed bonus/surprise would be nice. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Apr 28 2013, 01:21
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ihenz
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I'm playing my character as magician. My current Lv. is 66, and I don't know how to upgrade my character's stat and ability after. here is my stat. and here is my ability. How do I upgrade my stat and ability after? thank you.
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Apr 28 2013, 02:06
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HNTI
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QUOTE Is there a point to keeping both SoL and SS up at the same time? SS can't save your ass from death whereas SoL does. It's a bit risky to use both at the same time, because every time SS eats up a massive amount of dmg dealt to player. Sooo...I would say SS & SoL suck during normal girding, but work fine when you fight in RoB ( FSM), mainly because even if FSM uses its special attack, SS doesn't let you HP bar to fall too low (25 % at worst and the rest is absorbed in spirit).
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Apr 28 2013, 02:58
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Apr 28 2013, 07:06)  SS can't save your ass from death whereas SoL does. It's a bit risky to use both at the same time, because every time SS eats up a massive amount of dmg dealt to player. Sooo...I would say SS & SoL suck during normal girding, but work fine when you fight in RoB ( FSM), mainly because even if FSM uses its special attack, SS doesn't let you HP bar to fall too low (25 % at worst and the rest is absorbed in spirit).
I need to keep those two ( SS & SOL ) in IWBTH high arenas run (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) SS is not enough to become lifesaver (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Apr 28 2013, 04:42
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xmagus
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QUOTE(ahenayau @ Apr 28 2013, 10:58)  I need to keep those two ( SS & SOL ) in IWBTH high arenas run (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) SS is not enough to become lifesaver (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) The issue between SS and SoL is always the issue between chunked and chipped. If you have ridiculously high mitigations compared to your avoidance, you'll get chipped. That's when SS is useless, because every hit will hit you for less than 25% of your MAX HP. If you have ridiculously low mitigations compared to your avoidance, you'll get chunked. That's when SoL is somewhat useless, because every time you get hit, you get hit for a LOT, and SoL eats 50% of your base SP every time it procs. And yes, even with Cloak of the Fallen, it is entirely possible for SoL to proc twice in successive rounds (because Cloak only confers 100% mitigation on the round it procs). I have had 4 mobs crit me with specials right after SoL - and I sparked AGAIN. Well, it may have been on the 2nd round after cloak - but it made no difference to me, because my next action had already been queued up. If you have ridiculously high PMI and avoidance, you fear NOTHING - and you just go in. But for most of us, avoidance and mitigation are closer to each other - and not ridiculously high - so we face both chipping and chunking. I certainly run both SS and SoL. A bit of drain on the mana, but mana's easier to come by than SP.
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Apr 28 2013, 04:57
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nobody_xxx
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i have alot of 503 error now (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) it just me or anyone else have same problem ?? my chrome is the problem , cannpt connect to HV with chrome while it is normal with firefox This post has been edited by ahenayau: Apr 28 2013, 05:15
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