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Apr 25 2013, 06:47
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LeFlame-Befoe
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HV slows down whenever my older sister goes down in the basement near the router and uses the internet using her phone. Sorry everyone. This post has been edited by LeFlame-Befoe: Apr 25 2013, 06:53
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Apr 25 2013, 07:16
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Nightwishman
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How in the hell do you Estoc Heavy users survive? I went into the 50-round arena on Nintendo with my Estoc...and wasted so many potions and didn't even clear it. The surviveability of an Estoc is god awful. Or is it something I should try again in 200 levels?
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Apr 25 2013, 07:26
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Apr 25 2013, 12:16)  How in the hell do you Estoc Heavy users survive? I went into the 50-round arena on Nintendo with my Estoc...and wasted so many potions and didn't even clear it. The surviveability of an Estoc is god awful. Or is it something I should try again in 200 levels?
Use plate. Get more IA. Get better plates. Spend about 20 mil in heavy gear + estoc and you'll never struggle on any difficulty with heavy + estoc (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (maybe IWBTH)
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Apr 25 2013, 07:35
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xmagus
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Apr 25 2013, 15:16)  How in the hell do you Estoc Heavy users survive? I went into the 50-round arena on Nintendo with my Estoc...and wasted so many potions and didn't even clear it. The surviveability of an Estoc is god awful. Or is it something I should try again in 200 levels?
Hmm. Interesting. How good is your estoc? The basic checklist (I'm sure you know it, but just to see if we're on the same page): 1. Hollowforged Elemental/MAX Ethereal (Void is a beautiful thing, so is an infusion-free Elemental Strike) 2. 2.05+ base duration for PA, ~20% chance 3. Slaughter suffix 4. Hella huge STR/END PABs 5. Low Burden & Interference I use a mixture of Shield, Plate and Power. PMI: 64.5% MMI: 57.5% (it goes without saying Heavy users have ZERO evade) Block: 14% Parry: 31.1% Resist: 13.5% Crushing: 35.6% Slashing: 43.2% Piercing: 45.1% It goes without saying that when the patch that nerfed PMI and Protection happened, I went from 67% PMI to 60%. It was annoying as heck, but I could still (almost) mindlessly clear T&T on BT, so I can't see why you're having so much trouble. 1. Invest in at least 1 IA slot and put SoL in it. 2. 13 Item slots - 10 Godly Mana, 3 Godly Spirit. 3. Buff everything and renew whenever due on Stance mode. And if you're still having problems; 4. Infuse the heck out of that estoc. 5. Burn scrolls, especially Swiftness. 6. Feather everything. But really, it shouldn't be necessary. @Uno: I still haven't started using the estoc I bought from you. Hell, I haven't even IWed the Exq Arctic I was using prior to it. I got no issues - and still the same skinflint as ever (i.e. still wearing my own drops). In fact, I was doing fine with these Fine Hallowed and Astral Estocs. Pardon the pun.
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Apr 25 2013, 07:49
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Nightwishman
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I have 66.7% PMI and 52%MMI My estoc isn't the best, but its only 200 less damage (2300 vs 2500) then using my decent mace, which isn't that much of a difference at my level and above, http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e24c06d169and I only have 72.1 burden and ~88 interference. mana isn't the problem, constantly needing to Cure or Cure II is the problem, even with all the buffs active, SoL and SS.
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Apr 25 2013, 07:55
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xmagus
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Apr 25 2013, 15:49)  I have 66.7% PMI and 52%MMI My estoc isn't the best, but its only 200 less damage (2300 vs 2500) then using my decent mace, which isn't that much of a difference at my level and above, http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e24c06d169and I only have 72.1 burden and ~88 interference. mana isn't the problem, constantly needing to Cure or Cure II is the problem, even with all the buffs active, SoL and SS. Yeah, see, that's your problem. You need a slaughter estoc. And one with an Elemental Strike. Although, I don't know how much effect the elemental mits might have, especially if you're constantly facing Elementals / Daimons / Celestials / Sprites. I'm working on building those up, but you never know. Are you in Stance most of the time? You should be.
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Apr 25 2013, 07:58
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Sky Arc
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Apr 24 2013, 22:49)  I have 66.7% PMI and 52%MMI My estoc isn't the best, but its only 200 less damage (2300 vs 2500) then using my decent mace, which isn't that much of a difference at my level and above, http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e24c06d169and I only have 72.1 burden and ~88 interference. mana isn't the problem, constantly needing to Cure or Cure II is the problem, even with all the buffs active, SoL and SS. that is quite weak, so I will give you this one since I do have one that is better than it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Apr 25 2013, 09:43
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nobody_xxx
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Apr 25 2013, 12:49)  I have 66.7% PMI and 52%MMI My estoc isn't the best, but its only 200 less damage (2300 vs 2500) then using my decent mace, which isn't that much of a difference at my level and above, http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e24c06d169and I only have 72.1 burden and ~88 interference. mana isn't the problem, constantly needing to Cure or Cure II is the problem, even with all the buffs active, SoL and SS. for balance , it just worthy using in rapier or waki (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) get slaughter (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) (it hard to find good ethereal estoc of slaughter without spend at least a million Credits )
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Apr 25 2013, 10:04
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LeFlame-Befoe
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Can repurposed actuators be dropped by monsters or is it obtainable only through monster lab?
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Apr 25 2013, 10:09
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pervdiz
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QUOTE(LeFlame-Befoe @ Apr 25 2013, 10:04)  obtainable only through monster lab
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Apr 25 2013, 10:10
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PK678353
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QUOTE(LeFlame-Befoe @ Apr 25 2013, 03:04)  Can repurposed actuators be dropped by monsters or is it obtainable only through monster lab?
Monster Lab only. Or just buy em, they aren't exactly Phazons.
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Apr 25 2013, 10:14
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LeFlame-Befoe
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Oh, I'll work on my monster more then. And the only one selling them right now is doing so at 90k each.
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Apr 25 2013, 10:21
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PK678353
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QUOTE(LeFlame-Befoe @ Apr 25 2013, 03:14)  Oh, I'll work on my monster more then. And the only one selling them right now is doing so at 90k each.
Oh. Lovely. I remember when those were cheap. Your best shot is still to buy them (you may be able to nab some cheaper in the WTB forum), as monsters only rarely bring them back. You'll do better with a PL 25 horde than a single power mob as far as getting special mats goes. That said, if the RNG hates you, the RNG hates you. This post has been edited by PK678353: Apr 25 2013, 10:21
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Apr 25 2013, 10:46
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FAhentai
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Apr 25 2013, 15:26)  Use plate. Get more IA. Get better plates. Spend about 20 mil in heavy gear + estoc and you'll never struggle on any difficulty with heavy + estoc (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (maybe IWBTH) Not now. With 20 million, you can only buy something that works only in X25 arenas but not IW. If you want to fight in X25 IW, I will say that though it depends on how you manage your investment you have to at least spend 30 million on your gears since the price of materials increased so sharply recently.: A binding of slaughter, 150K, A binding of protection, 25K, and if you have some good power gears that worth to be upgrade, then I will say that though a actuator's bot price is around 65K you can not get them with the price, if you want get them as quick as possible, I will say that 100K each is a reasonable price. And what's more, I personally do not recommend players to use something that over "what a normal player in this level should have". For the melee players, if his or her level is lower than 300 (if that players have some good forged plate armor, then the requirement to use a estoc will be around 280), a mace that with high stun chance will do the job well and cost less credits. When that player met this requirement, then, better start with 4 plates+1 power of balance ( it should has a good roll of accuracy and crit chance and str/dex/end PAB, the damage and PMI of this gear are not so important since no matter how well they rolls, they both sucks). After that, that player is on his/her own.
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Apr 25 2013, 11:10
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Lement
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@fa怪叔叔:I can only conclude that heavy has become significantly stronger than mage with recent patches, given the simultaneous dropping of mage upgrade prices.
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Apr 25 2013, 12:02
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FAhentai
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QUOTE(Lement @ Apr 25 2013, 19:10)  @fa怪叔叔:I can only conclude that heavy has become significantly stronger than mage with recent patches, given the simultaneous dropping of mage upgrade prices.
No, not like that. Oppositely, it is too weak. You have to either throw millions into your gears to make you back to you once were or lower down the difficulty that you fight. Before, a melee player who hits 280 with a 70WD IWed estoc+a full set of power of protection gears without upgrade can easily finish all the non-high school girls arenas. However, it is now very difficult for those melee players who hits 300+ with the same gear. Now that they do not want to down to X10, then the only way is to upgrade their weapons and armors, which made the material price become unacceptable. I am one of those example, you see my gears? I can not even rember how many millions I have thrown into them since 0.73 but it is definitely more than 20 million. Even so, I'm now still weaker than I once was though the gap is not so significantly. And also, there still something that need to concern. You may say that fight in both Mega and Melee is an option. I personally agree that. However, there are still barrier of entry in this case: 1. the ability points problem. To support fight in both mega and melee, I guess for normal players you have to at least hits LV330. If you are rich enough, you can try to shrine some artifacts to get some extra ability points. However, based on what I have done, you have to at least spend 150 Hath so that you can full the ability that fight both mega and melee requires in LV310. 2. proficiency problem: if you just start fight as Mega, then it means you get 0 efficiency. Therefore, it means that you have to fight for weeks in lower difficulty to get this thing done, which may stop many players from doing so. 3. get use to play as mega: I should say that this is the key problem. I do not remember how many times I want to give up fight in Mega because it is too different from fighting in Melee. 4. Gears problem: though overall to buy a set of Mega gears may not cost you as much as upgrade your melee gears, you need to pay for a gear at one time! 200K every day seems okay but how about 2M at one time? Not talk about sometimes, there are multiple gears that you need in auction and you do not have enough credits on your hand. And, at the end, there is one more thing I want to say. The ping time. A player who has a ping 350ms just like me is playing completely different game compare with those players that has a ping lower than 100. For those low ping players, Mega is even has lower credit/time ratio than one-handed coz I do see there are some one-hand players fight in X25 trio and tree and it only cost him 4 seconds to clear one round meanwhile I guess now I'm a skilled mage and 350MS ping is not the bottle neck for me to play (yes, that means I can not fight faster than that even if I have a better connection) but I could not reach his efficiency. This post has been edited by fa怪叔叔: Apr 25 2013, 12:38
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Apr 25 2013, 13:15
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PK678353
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QUOTE(fa怪叔叔 @ Apr 25 2013, 05:02)  <snip> Complaining to mages that you have to run as hard as you can just to stay in one place isn't going to get you very far. We're, ahm, familiar with the issue. Lement in particular. I'm trying to empathize with your complaint that you can't faceroll IWBTH anymore without forging that Power, but I just can't. Not when I couldn't do IWBTH T&T with Elixirs, and oh hey, my gear costs about as much as a decent unforged Estoc before they became T2 and a set of unforged Power of Protection. Also, are you intentionally swapping the e and the a in mage every time? This post has been edited by PK678353: Apr 25 2013, 13:17
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Apr 25 2013, 13:41
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n125
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QUOTE(fa怪叔叔 @ Apr 25 2013, 03:02)  No, not like that. Oppositely, it is too weak. You have to either throw millions into your gears to make you back to you once were or lower down the difficulty that you fight. Before, a melee player who hits 280 with a 70WD IWed estoc+a full set of power of protection gears without upgrade can easily finish all the non-high school girls arenas. However, it is now very difficult for those melee players who hits 300+ with the same gear. Now that they do not want to down to X10, then the only way is to upgrade their weapons and armors, which made the material price become unacceptable
So you're basically saying that a heavy melee should be able to easily do IWBTH arenas without touching the forge? And that doesn't seem unbalanced to you?
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Apr 25 2013, 13:56
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FAhentai
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Apr 25 2013, 21:15)  Complaining to mages that you have to run as hard as you can just to stay in one place isn't going to get you very far. We're, ahm, familiar with the issue. Lement in particular. I'm trying to empathize with your complaint that you can't faceroll IWBTH anymore without forging that Power, but I just can't. Not when I couldn't do IWBTH T&T with Elixirs, and oh hey, my gear costs about as much as a decent unforged Estoc before they became T2 and a set of unforged Power of Protection.
Also, are you intentionally swapping the e and the a in mage every time?
Oh my Karl Max, you really expecting a Mega player who's level is not even 250 to fight in X25? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Basically, fight in Mega means less real life time consuming but lower challenge difficulty while melee can fight in higher difficulty but it cost more real life time even you attempt the same difficulty as Mega.That is how this game balance Mega and Melee. But, hey body, even in the earlier patch, you have to at least hit LV280+ to fight in X25 even if you play melee. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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