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Apr 21 2013, 09:37
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Colman
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QUOTE(kserox @ Apr 21 2013, 14:26)  IA2. Yeah, you may be right. But I can't use estocs - rape all the way, and RegenII does nothing. Oh. So Protection spell now is just like some second invisible Cuirass with 25% PMI/MMI? But anyway, 75% PMI should be good. Why monsters killing me so much...
Even if you have 80% PMI before applying protection there is no guarantee you can finish IW on IWBTH.
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Apr 21 2013, 11:06
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Arxdewn
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QUOTE(Eclair de Larmes @ Apr 20 2013, 20:18)  I'm already using Silence, Weaken, and Imperil. I thought of using Slow earlier, but it's less effective than Weaken since crit is my biggest threat I only do about 30k per turn, 40k if using Arcane Focus, no infusions the main problem is the normal hit, even in Weakened state he still often land hits, although I already use all the buffs (IA haste, SoL, SS, Veil, Protection up all the time) Run out of mana mainly because of Cure II, as I used it when my hp drops below 30% and with 97% holy spell damage, ~180 divine prof, and ~1.4k magic damage, I wonder why my damage against FSM is really low (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Why do you need SoL and SS if he is silenced? In your last post you said you died to him spamming his MP attack, but how would he do that if he is silenced?
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Apr 21 2013, 11:40
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Pillowgirl
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Why would you fight FSM without a DW build when your mage gear is shit or your level too low...
This post has been edited by Pillowgirl: Apr 21 2013, 11:41
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Apr 21 2013, 11:43
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Malenk
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the point is, why fight FST at IWBTH at all? ok, the arena drop will benefit from that, but it's better do it at BT or Nintendo instead of risking the loss of 3 tokens/1 noodle/3 hath.
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Apr 21 2013, 11:46
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wypower2
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Is the one in EHWIKI the only script that show the base value of an EQ?
I tried it but it don't work on base value of EDB.
I am using chrome
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Apr 21 2013, 11:48
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Lement
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Malenk: Because IWBTH random should be bigger threat than iwbth fsm, and higher multiplier on best thing>timesavings in this case.
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Apr 21 2013, 12:10
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Malenk
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QUOTE(Lement @ Apr 21 2013, 09:48)  Malenk: Because IWBTH random should be bigger threat than iwbth fsm, and higher multiplier on best thing>timesavings in this case.
i know... i do FSM at IWBTH and i have no problems whatsoever. what i was saying is: if you are not sure you can handle it just do it at a lower difficulty, the better chance of a good drop isn't worth the loss of noodle/tokens. if you want to know if you can kill him at IWBTH you do it on BT taking in account how many potions you have left when you finish and the damage it deals to you. at IWBTH FSM has double the health and +20% damage of the BT counterpart. if regen2 isn't enough to keep you full at BT it will be even worse at IWBTH, and if you cannot kill him with less than half your potions on BT you won't be able to do it on IWBTH. also, use silence.
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Apr 21 2013, 12:53
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wr4st3r
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Apr 21 2013, 12:10)  i know... i do FSM at IWBTH and i have no problems whatsoever.
what i was saying is: if you are not sure you can handle it just do it at a lower difficulty, the better chance of a good drop isn't worth the loss of noodle/tokens.
if you want to know if you can kill him at IWBTH you do it on BT taking in account how many potions you have left when you finish and the damage it deals to you. at IWBTH FSM has double the health and +20% damage of the BT counterpart.
if regen2 isn't enough to keep you full at BT it will be even worse at IWBTH, and if you cannot kill him with less than half your potions on BT you won't be able to do it on IWBTH.
also, use silence.
This, very much. When you're low level a single Noodle is quite a decent chunk of money, there's no need to jump the gun and risk losing it - especially when the better loot quality from IWTBH hardly matters on a single fight with low LotD. As Malenk suggests, just see how you do on BT or lower in term of potions and go from there. The next FSM is just 24 hours away anyway (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Apr 21 2013, 13:27
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kserox
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QUOTE(wr4st3r @ Apr 21 2013, 12:53)  When you're low level a single Noodle is quite a decent chunk of money, there's no need to jump the gun and risk losing it - especially when the better loot quality from IWTBH hardly matters on a single fight with low LotD.
Oh? Where exactly can I sell my noodles (and saplings maybe)? Because I had dozens of them last time I checked.
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Apr 21 2013, 13:38
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inept
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A bunch of threads in the WTB section are always open for noodles @ 45k. Saplings, not so much.
This post has been edited by cfg123: Apr 21 2013, 13:39
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Apr 21 2013, 14:05
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Eclair de Larmes
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QUOTE(Arxdewn @ Apr 21 2013, 16:06)  Why do you need SoL and SS if he is silenced? In your last post you said you died to him spamming his MP attack, but how would he do that if he is silenced?
just in case, because my friend once do that, and when the silence goes down, he failed curse-weaving, and puff of logic blasted in front of his face well, tragical death, you know. QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Apr 21 2013, 16:40)  Why would you fight FSM without a DW build when your mage gear is shit or your level too low...
well, what's so wrong about trying? QUOTE(Lement @ Apr 21 2013, 16:48)  Malenk: Because IWBTH random should be bigger threat than iwbth fsm, and higher multiplier on best thing>timesavings in this case.
QUOTE(Malenk @ Apr 21 2013, 17:10)  i know... i do FSM at IWBTH and i have no problems whatsoever.
what i was saying is: if you are not sure you can handle it just do it at a lower difficulty, the better chance of a good drop isn't worth the loss of noodle/tokens.
if you want to know if you can kill him at IWBTH you do it on BT taking in account how many potions you have left when you finish and the damage it deals to you. at IWBTH FSM has double the health and +20% damage of the BT counterpart.
if regen2 isn't enough to keep you full at BT it will be even worse at IWBTH, and if you cannot kill him with less than half your potions on BT you won't be able to do it on IWBTH.
also, use silence.
this. Thanks Malenk-san (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I think I know what I should do. Thanks a lot ^^
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Apr 21 2013, 14:10
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Malenk
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if you don't want to risk failing at curse weaving you can do this:
cast silence first then cast imperil and weaken
silence has a higher duration than imperil and weaken, so when they expire you refresh silence then cast imperil and weaken again. if your deprecating prof is low you will fail a few times to cast the third debuff, but eventually it will stick in.
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Apr 21 2013, 16:06
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Arxdewn
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You can use an absorb scroll for 100% certainty you won't get hit while reapplying. Even so, its not a barrage of MP attacks. I have pretty low deprecating and it only takes me 2 silences to kill him. You can also just cast SS once right before silence wears off. I can't think of any reason to keep up SS AND SoL.
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Apr 21 2013, 17:13
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kakashi524
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Apr 21 2013, 18:12
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Apocalypse Horsemen
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QUOTE(kakashi524 @ Apr 21 2013, 23:13)  QUOTE(letmegitdat @ Apr 22 2013, 00:06)  thats actually pretty common for me... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Some guys have all the luck Some guys have all the pain (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) Some guys get all the breaks Some guys do nothing but complain
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Apr 21 2013, 19:19
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Malenk
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QUOTE(letmegitdat @ Apr 21 2013, 16:06)  thats actually pretty common for me... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) no PABs on a superior? not really common actually.
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Apr 21 2013, 19:40
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T_Starrk
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Yes, no PAB superiors are very common, now if anybody finds a no PAB exquisite that would be something rare (all I've seen are 1 PAB exquisites, usually two-hand weapons or staves).
This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Apr 21 2013, 19:41
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Apr 21 2013, 20:26
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Malenk
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Apr 21 2013, 17:40)  Yes, no PAB superiors are very common, now if anybody finds a no PAB exquisite that would be something rare (all I've seen are 1 PAB exquisites, usually two-hand weapons or staves).
i disagree, unless your meaning of "very common" is very different from mine. it's not like they are ultra rare but i think of the superiors i find myself less than 1 out of 100 has no PABs.
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