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post Apr 20 2013, 18:22
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Do you even keep int level? I'm literally 70 points behind following the 0.8*lvl rec. That said I'm only using one style/equip with no plan on varying it anytime soon, so level stats for interchangeability of equips seema redundant.

I faintly recall you saying something about INT being kept at 1/4 of the cosf of all stats. If I remembered that correctly, it seems more sensical to adust it to this.
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post Apr 20 2013, 18:27
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TBH, any kind of 'unbalancing' stats from EXP seems rather pointless at higher level...especially when you get something like 200+ in any particular stat from your mage/melee build.
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post Apr 20 2013, 18:29
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QUOTE(cfg123 @ Apr 20 2013, 08:22) *

@T_Starrk
Do you even keep int level? I'm literally 70 points behind following the 0.8*lvl rec. That said I'm only using one style/equip with no plan on varying it anytime soon, so level stats for interchangeability of equips seema redundant.

I faintly recall you saying something about INT being kept at 1/4 of the cosf of all stats. If I remembered that correctly, it seems more sensical to adust it to this.


Yes I keep intelligence level. That is because I play mage too. The advice I gave you was based on playing melee only which I thought you did. letmegitdat was asking how to balance your stats to play both.
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post Apr 20 2013, 18:45
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As you can see, by my level, all the unbalancing is done by the equips. Sure you can unbalance them if you only play one style, but with multiple styles this is the way to go. No fucking around, lol. I can just switch to mage for an hourly then to dw for FSM just by switching sets.

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post Apr 20 2013, 20:05
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I do play melee only. I guess I'll bump it to 1/4th.
Everything else is relatively even. Thank you both.

Also, I am aware of how additional stats from equips apply in that situation, and damn son; that's a lot of XP.

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post Apr 20 2013, 20:10
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I do play melee only. I guess I'll bump it to 1/4th.
Everything else is relatively even. Thank you both.


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post Apr 20 2013, 20:14
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I want to ask about my gear/build

Stat : [puu.sh] http://puu.sh/2DKfw
Equip : [puu.sh] http://puu.sh/2DKgs
Abilities : [puu.sh] http://puu.sh/2DKip and [puu.sh] http://puu.sh/2DKku

and even with 4/5 pack rat it's damn hard to do FSM IWBTH with mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

last try FSM has 10M hp, I bring him down to 800k, ran out of pots (bring 9 godly mana+ 3 spirits, only 2 spirits left) and he somewhat rape my mage with spamming his MP attack (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

anyone had any suggestion on how to beat him in IWBTH?
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post Apr 20 2013, 20:53
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What type of monsters is recommended for the lowest level, PL25?
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post Apr 20 2013, 21:01
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What type of monsters is recommended for the lowest level, PL25?

Giant.
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post Apr 20 2013, 21:11
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I'm melee so I have no idea how to beat IWBTH as a mage. I would think you just silence and ether tap it but then again you're probably already doing that.
The fine equips make me go eh... I see nice exquisite stuff for sale all the time that that are definitely within your budget. You could try to upgrade your stuff. You also have more credits than me so it shouldn't be too hard.

QUOTE(Apocalypse Horsemen @ Apr 20 2013, 10:53) *

What type of monsters is recommended for the lowest level, PL25?

I don't think it really matters too much. I made one of every type for level 25 and they never get any wins (only my elemental got 1 win). I check once every day and 1/3 of the time I get something and there's never really a pattern to what grants more mats.

Also can anyone tell me what Physical Migration is recommended for IWBTH level 100+ Arenas? 65% doesn't cut it. That or I need a better weapon to kill them faster.

My weapons are Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of the Nimble and Exquisite Ethereal Club of Slaughter. Probably going to find an Axe soon enough to replace the club. The rapier is new and nearly caused me to go broke.

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post Apr 20 2013, 21:17
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Apr 21 2013, 03:01) *

Giant.



QUOTE(calibur @ Apr 21 2013, 03:11) *

I don't think it really matters too much. I made one of every type for level 25 and they never get any wins (only my elemental got 1 win). I check once every day and 1/3 of the time I get something and there's never really a pattern to what grants more mats.



Thanks guys. Hopefully they will bring in some surprise gifts. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Apr 20 2013, 21:23
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QUOTE(Eclair de Larmes @ Apr 20 2013, 11:14) *

and even with 4/5 pack rat it's damn hard to do FSM IWBTH with mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

last try FSM has 10M hp, I bring him down to 800k, ran out of pots (bring 9 godly mana+ 3 spirits, only 2 spirits left) and he somewhat rape my mage with spamming his MP attack (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

anyone had any suggestion on how to beat him in IWBTH?


It doesn't sound like you are using Silence and Weaken. Mages actually kill him the fastest, I think high level mages take around 80 turns (iirc). After hes been debuffed, the damage you take is very minimal and predictable. Just use holy spells since he has a weakness.
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post Apr 20 2013, 21:30
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QUOTE(Eclair de Larmes @ Apr 20 2013, 20:14) *

I want to ask about my gear/build

Stat : [puu.sh] http://puu.sh/2DKfw
Equip : [puu.sh] http://puu.sh/2DKgs
Abilities : [puu.sh] http://puu.sh/2DKip and [puu.sh] http://puu.sh/2DKku

and even with 4/5 pack rat it's damn hard to do FSM IWBTH with mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

last try FSM has 10M hp, I bring him down to 800k, ran out of pots (bring 9 godly mana+ 3 spirits, only 2 spirits left) and he somewhat rape my mage with spamming his MP attack (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

anyone had any suggestion on how to beat him in IWBTH?


kinda hard to gauge without seeing gear stats, total spell damage bonus+effective divine prof etc... how much damage per turn did you do with your kit?

I do around 85k+ per turn with great stam no infusions and the bargain basement gear in sig. @14M HP it takes me around 2-3 mins / 200ish turns / 3-4 greater mana pots. you need good gear to play holy mage, not to beat FSM.

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post Apr 20 2013, 22:20
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QUOTE(calibur @ Apr 21 2013, 00:41) *

I'm melee so I have no idea how to beat IWBTH as a mage. I would think you just silence and ether tap it but then again you're probably already doing that.
The fine equips make me go eh... I see nice exquisite stuff for sale all the time that that are definitely within your budget. You could try to upgrade your stuff. You also have more credits than me so it shouldn't be too hard.
I don't think it really matters too much. I made one of every type for level 25 and they never get any wins (only my elemental got 1 win). I check once every day and 1/3 of the time I get something and there's never really a pattern to what grants more mats.

Also can anyone tell me what Physical Migration is recommended for IWBTH level 100+ Arenas? 65% doesn't cut it. That or I need a better weapon to kill them faster.

My weapons are Magnificent Ethereal Rapier of the Nimble and Exquisite Ethereal Club of Slaughter. Probably going to find an Axe soon enough to replace the club. The rapier is new and nearly caused me to go broke.


Last time I asked someone here said 70 PM is a good number to play in IWBTH so can't say much since I am yet to reach that level myself. As for your DW I can't say much since I am a 2H so other DW expert will give you better reply
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post Apr 20 2013, 22:38
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My mage kills FSM without using any potion. It takes me 4 hours tho (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

In case you are wondering: I do it to train staff proficiency. I use Magnet, Silence and either slow or weaken on it. Not many debuffs needed. I buff myself with SoL, SS, Protection, Absorb, Regen II, Haste and Shadow Veil. No, I do not use Arcane focus. The point is a long fight for more proficiency gain D:

If you plan to use potions then you can use Holy spells to reduce those 4 hours to 1/30 of the time IF you use the same equipment as me (Fenrir Phase set). If you go with holy equipment, it will go faster.

Just use the staff skill to stun it every 10-14 turns and use FOCUS to gain mana or SPIRIT STANCE to BOOST your spell dmg.

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post Apr 20 2013, 22:41
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post Apr 20 2013, 22:59
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I created a monster a few days ago and yesterday I managed to get it to PL25. In the last 48 hours I managed to bring it up to PL64 but he didn't bring me any items and is still at 0 - 0 Won/KB. Is that normal?

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post Apr 20 2013, 23:10
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I created a monster a few days ago and yesterday I managed to get it to PL25. In the last 48 hours I managed to bring it up to PL64 but he didn't bring me any items and is still at 0 - 0 Won/KB. Is that normal?


Don't check the monster too much or you won't get any gifts. Also sometimes it take time to get anything so be patient. Make sure you correctly named it, save a skill and upgrade it with few tokens and check 1 or 2 times per day

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QUOTE(Malenk @ Apr 20 2013, 15:41) *

I wouldn't.

QUOTE(Hiwashi @ Apr 20 2013, 15:59) *

I created a monster a few days ago and yesterday I managed to get it to PL25. In the last 48 hours I managed to bring it up to PL64 but he didn't bring me any items and is still at 0 - 0 Won/KB. Is that normal?

In my experience, it is normal.
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QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Apr 20 2013, 21:10) *

Don't check the monster too much or you won't get any gifts. Also sometimes it take time to get anything so be patient. Make sure you correctly named it, save a skill and upgrade it with few tokens and check 1 or 2 times per day


actually it isn't a good idea.
there are a fuckton of level 25 monsters out there, and there aren't many player of that level, so your monsters won't be into many battles, and the chances of pickung up wins are abysmal.

therefore i think the best thing to do is just check on them once every other day.

according to the gift formula you reach 100% chance in 50 hours, so checking them once every two days will give you almost a guaranteed gift. ok, only 96% sure but i like to live dangerously. XD
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