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Apr 18 2013, 18:20
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xmagus
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QUOTE(ahenayau @ Apr 19 2013, 01:00)  finding the last is the hardest (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) i still waiting snowflake give my first legendary drop (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Hah! I had mine drop from FSM at level 100. Legendary Demonic Estoc of Balance, no less. And then I promptly sold it for 12k.
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Apr 19 2013, 03:42
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elda88
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My SP is only 392. How much SP is needed so that it is sufficient enough for Spirit Shield?
This post has been edited by hujan86: Apr 19 2013, 03:59
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Apr 19 2013, 03:46
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Lement
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Spirit shield consumes a percentage of your Base SP. What matters is how much SP tanks you have for the usage. Even with no SP tanks it can still tank up to five hits when 5-APed, though.
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Apr 19 2013, 04:02
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elda88
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QUOTE(Lement @ Apr 19 2013, 09:46)  Spirit shield consumes a percentage of your Base SP. What matters is how much SP tanks you have for the usage. Even with no SP tanks it can still tank up to five hits when 5-APed, though.
Only 45% Spirit Tank.
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Apr 19 2013, 04:23
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xmagus
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Apr 19 2013, 12:02)  Only 45% Spirit Tank.
Does not matter - that gives you an extra 2 activations (minimum) of SS. As Lement said, it works off base SP, so if you started off with 145% base SP, 7x20% is 140%, leaving you 5% left over for whatever else. This is assuming that you got hit so hard that you would have sparked/died even with full HP from a OHKO many times over - SS uses less SP the less powerful the blow is, and does not activate whatsoever below 25% maximum HP loss. So the actual amount of times SS activates could be quite substantial indeed. The more SP Tanks you have, the better if you are a melee, because you can then go into Stance mode without worrying too much.
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Apr 19 2013, 05:56
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elda88
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Apr 19 2013, 10:23)  Does not matter - that gives you an extra 2 activations (minimum) of SS. As Lement said, it works off base SP, so if you started off with 145% base SP, 7x20% is 140%, leaving you 5% left over for whatever else. This is assuming that you got hit so hard that you would have sparked/died even with full HP from a OHKO many times over - SS uses less SP the less powerful the blow is, and does not activate whatsoever below 25% maximum HP loss. So the actual amount of times SS activates could be quite substantial indeed.
The more SP Tanks you have, the better if you are a melee, because you can then go into Stance mode without worrying too much.
That makes sense now. BTW, do mobs hit harder every time I level up one weapon? This post has been edited by hujan86: Apr 19 2013, 06:02
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Apr 19 2013, 06:28
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Apr 18 2013, 19:56)  do mobs hit harder every time I level up one weapon?
No.
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Apr 19 2013, 07:06
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LeFlame-Befoe
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What formula do you use to find the sum of the formulae for monster crystals? Doesn't seem like geometric series sum works since the common ratio isn't clear. I'm too dumb.
Stat type - Crystal cost to upgrade Primary -- round(50 * 1.9^N) Elemental round(10 * 1.25^N)
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Apr 19 2013, 07:19
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elda88
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Apr 19 2013, 12:28)  No.
I must be unlucky today then. ( Stop critting me at every turn, you stupid mobs!)
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Apr 19 2013, 07:34
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(LeFlame-Befoe @ Apr 18 2013, 21:06)  What formula do you use to find the sum of the formulae for monster crystals?
N = the number of times it was already upgraded.
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Apr 19 2013, 07:39
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LeFlame-Befoe
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QUOTE(LeFlame-Befoe @ Apr 19 2013, 01:06)  What formula do you use to find the sum of the formulae for monster crystals? Doesn't seem like geometric series sum works since the common ratio isn't clear. I'm too dumb.
Stat type - Crystal cost to upgrade Primary -- round(50 * 1.9^N) Elemental round(10 * 1.25^N)
A friend posted this, for excel, and for primary stats: Well I would probably use a VLOOKUP for the monster class values (just make a nice named table in another sheet with them all listed out and use smart vlookups with match functions and it should be no problem), but that's neither here nor there. A good method for figuring out discrete sum formulae like this is to write it out and see how it looks. In this example, say we're looking at a sum from 5 to 10. x = 50*1.9^5 + 50*1.9^6 + 50*1.9^7 + 50*1.9^8 + 50*1.9^9 + 50*1.9^10 x = (1 + 1.9 + 1.9^2 + 1.9^3 + 1.9^4 + 1.9^5)*50*1.9^5 And you'd try to simplify that however you'd want to. This one sort of looks like a geometric sum, so you can likely work it that way. However, in this case, all you really wanna do is use an array formula, since it's a WHOLE lot easier. Just use a clever combination of ROW and INDIRECT and it all works out really REALLY easy. Variables (all as cell references): N - starting level M - ending level L - initial value for the monster class ROUND(SUM(50*1.9^(ROW(INDIRECT("A"&N&":A"&M-1))-L)),0) And just be sure when you finish the formula you hold CTRL+SHIFT before hitting ENTER so it goes in as an Array Formula, rather than a normal one (which would return an error). And voila. Success. QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Apr 19 2013, 01:34)  N = the number of times it was already upgraded.
When I said "sum of the formulae" I meant the sum for a range of levels, the total amount of crystals needed given a starting and an ending level given a monster class. This post has been edited by LeFlame-Befoe: Apr 19 2013, 07:41
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Apr 19 2013, 07:44
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varst
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QUOTE(LeFlame-Befoe @ Apr 19 2013, 13:06)  What formula do you use to find the sum of the formulae for monster crystals?
I use SUM in excel XD Not because it's the best formula, but because it's the best in explain. Explaining the maths logic to those who don't care is quite painful sometimes (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by varst: Apr 19 2013, 07:44
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Apr 19 2013, 09:29
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inept
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I doubt more than 10 artifacts have dropped for me in my last 30-40 levels. Just got one on the third arena, though.
Question: What's the best potion ratio/amount for a DW/shade user like myself. I've 10 (battle) item slots and currently have 4HP-5MP-1SP potions. It works pretty well, but I'm curious as to the theoryverse behind any other combination, and if pure MP/SP would be better since HPs don't seem to do much.
And then there's elixirs...
This post has been edited by cfg123: Apr 19 2013, 09:30
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Apr 19 2013, 09:30
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Slobber
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stick with godly mana's+a few sp's
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Apr 19 2013, 09:46
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Malenk
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can i reforge a level 0 equipment with some potency exp in order to take it back to zero without using any amnesia shard?
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Apr 19 2013, 09:51
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v31
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Couple of questions guys. Firstly, is it better to just burn through the arenas at normal difficulty and easily clearing everything, or should I notch up the difficulty to something like heroic and struggle with the last few arenas (not in terms of difficulty, but more so in using a lot of items and the rounds being long)? I'm just trying to get the best credit reward for my stamina, as I spend quite a lot of credits on galleries. Secondly, would I be better off using a Shade set or Kevlar? I've been using Kevlar for nearly all of my time playing, but I have been trying to pick up the occasional Shade piece when it pops in the ingame shop. I have been using an Ethereal Mace that Nightwishman gifted to me as my main, but I am wondering if I would be better suited to go DW for clearing stuff more quickly? I don't want to play mage. Anyway, here is my gear. MainKevlar head or Shade headKevlar body or Shade bodyKevlar hands (don't have a Shade alternative yet) Kevlar legs or Shade legsKevlar feet or Shade feetI know my Kevlar stuff is slightly higher quality, but that is due to it being much more prevalent in the shop. I'm not sure which I am better off wearing. Appreciate all advice guys, thanks a lot.
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Apr 19 2013, 10:10
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PK678353
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QUOTE(v31 @ Apr 19 2013, 02:51)  Couple of questions guys. Firstly, is it better to just burn through the arenas at normal difficulty and easily clearing everything, or should I notch up the difficulty to something like heroic and struggle with the last few arenas (not in terms of difficulty, but more so in using a lot of items and the rounds being long)? I'm just trying to get the best credit reward for my stamina, as I spend quite a lot of credits on galleries. Secondly, would I be better off using a Shade set or Kevlar? I've been using Kevlar for nearly all of my time playing, but I have been trying to pick up the occasional Shade piece when it pops in the ingame shop. I have been using an Ethereal Mace that Nightwishman gifted to me as my main, but I am wondering if I would be better suited to go DW for clearing stuff more quickly? I don't want to play mage. Anyway, here is my gear. MainKevlar head or Shade headKevlar body or Shade bodyKevlar hands (don't have a Shade alternative yet) Kevlar legs or Shade legsKevlar feet or Shade feetI know my Kevlar stuff is slightly higher quality, but that is due to it being much more prevalent in the shop. I'm not sure which I am better off wearing. Appreciate all advice guys, thanks a lot. Don't buy shit off the Bazaar. If it's there, it's there because someone thought it was crap. You at least have mostly Fleet (unlike people we see in with piles of Negation/Arcanist crap and wonder why they keep getting hit). Go to the WTS forum, you can find better pieces there (and people who'll just give it away). Shade kills faster, Kevlar offers better protection (allowing you to use a more aggressive weapon or style). For example, a Shade build would run a Mace or a Club+Rapier, while Kevlar would run an Estoc or Axe+Rapier. Given the Stun % and time on it, I'd say run full Fleet/SD Shade for the ADB. At your level, the damage improvement of PA from an Estoc isn't particularly noticeable, so that Mace is a damn good weapon for now.
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