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post Apr 18 2013, 03:32
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Apr 17 2013, 15:00) *

monster with higher PL give better loot.

And those with chaos upgrades give more loot.
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post Apr 18 2013, 03:45
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Apr 18 2013, 11:32) *

And those with chaos upgrades give more loot.

???

What, like they give 2 pieces of loot instead of 1? Oh, no, wait, that doesn't work...

The day 501st consistently gives me Mana Elixirs or Magni Estocs (like, 65% of the time, she will give me something), I might admit there's some validity to the claims. Until then, I submit that the RNG's variability (and Scavenger's level) has a helluva lot more to do with your drop level than monster PL- ah, you mean chaos upgrades give more loot to the owner. But wait, that's not true either, not if Affection hasn't been chaosed.

And certainly the player facing the monster doesn't benefit one bit.
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post Apr 18 2013, 04:32
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Hello there, I just did my first clear of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and I'm not sure if I should offer the Noodly Appendage to the Shrine or sell it to another player. Could someone please give me an opinion?
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post Apr 18 2013, 04:45
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When shrining anything is a risk. It could yield great items or crappy ones. I would personally shrine it.
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post Apr 18 2013, 04:55
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QUOTE(e_hentai_1 @ Apr 17 2013, 18:32) *

Hello there, I just did my first clear of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and I'm not sure if I should offer the Noodly Appendage to the Shrine or sell it to another player. Could someone please give me an opinion?


Depends on what you want. Guaranteed 45k or a chance at something worth much more. Then again rng can screw you over and it happens more often than not you get crap.

I would shrine it but then again I don't know since I never shrined one yet. Looking at T Staarks record though, I'm hesitant.

Still won't stop me from shrining the 10 I farmed up.
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post Apr 18 2013, 05:11
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Apr 17 2013, 17:45) *

What, like they give 2 pieces of loot instead of 1? Oh, no, wait, that doesn't work...

Sorry, I thought we were talking about for the owner.
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post Apr 18 2013, 07:35
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can anyone explain to me the details about the crude staffs and how they are the best way to rank up un the forge? PM me please.

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post Apr 18 2013, 07:38
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QUOTE(piyin @ Apr 18 2013, 13:35) *

can anyone explain to me the details about the crude staffs and how they are the best way to rank up un the forge? PM me please.


They require the least-worthy low-grade materials to forge most of the time. With that sheer amount of low-grades, why not?

QUOTE(Malenk @ Apr 18 2013, 07:00) *

monster with higher PL give better loot.


Well theoretically they don't give better, they just give more. Though most of time more = better in HV (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Apr 18 2013, 08:03
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QUOTE(piyin @ Apr 17 2013, 21:35) *

can anyone explain to me the details about the crude staffs and how they are the best way to rank up un the forge? PM me please.

LG Wood + Elemental EDB Bindings (Surtr, Freya, etc.) are the cheapest mats. Whilst the Forge XP received is low the ROI is superior.
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post Apr 18 2013, 08:26
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Apr 17 2013, 08:49) *

Haste, Regen II, Protection, SoL

Then get quintuple shotted after getting evaded and parried several times.

One of my hourlys on just Hell got me ONE shoted from ~9,000 health, from a single monster and I had everything but SoL active, since it was just Hell and only 3 monsters to start. I used to be able to IWBTH up to the 25 round arena and about 30-35 rounds in Grindfest. Now I can't make it past 5-6 rounds in Arena; and I tried to IW only to get blasted on round 5 of a fine item world.

You're a terrible player.
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post Apr 18 2013, 10:17
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Shields can get capacitor or juggernaut from completing item worlds right? I've done like 15 and not gotten anything but elemental mitigations, so I want to make sure I'm not just wasting my time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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post Apr 18 2013, 10:19
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QUOTE(amped @ Apr 18 2013, 16:17) *

Shields can get capacitor or juggernaut from completing item worlds right? I've done like 15 and not gotten anything but elemental mitigations, so I want to make sure I'm not just wasting my time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)


According to those who've more experience on shield-IWing, you won't get capacitor/huggernaut for shields.
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post Apr 18 2013, 11:37
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Apr 14 2013, 11:03) *
QUOTE(aurabolt @ Apr 14 2013, 09:49) *
Never use Spirit Stance if you're not wielding an Estoc/Rapier. Skills all the way.

Never? That, if you'll forgive my lack of tact, is a load of horseshit.

IWBTH Item World on this. (Ran out of potions, and died on both runs.)

Spirit Stance (9 Godly Mana Potions and 4 Godly Spirit Potions)
[s8.postimg.org] http://s8.postimg.org/5t7f36zol/Stance_1.png
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Rending Blow (11 Godly Mana Potions and 1 Godly Spirit Potion)
[Didn't use 1 Godly Spirit Potion—should've brought 1 Godly Mana Potion.]

[s24.postimg.org] http://s24.postimg.org/ensm3htlx/Rending_1.png
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[s24.postimg.org] http://s24.postimg.org/eqchqbx9h/Rending_3.png

Now, shut up. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Apr 18 2013, 12:59
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QUOTE(aurabolt @ Apr 18 2013, 19:37) *

Never? That, if you'll forgive my lack of tact, is a load of horseshit.
IWBTH Item World on this. (Ran out of potions, and died on both runs.)

Spirit Stance (9 Godly Mana Potions and 4 Godly Spirit Potions)
[s8.postimg.org] http://s8.postimg.org/5t7f36zol/Stance_1.png
[s8.postimg.org] http://s8.postimg.org/epi774qat/Stance_2.png
[s8.postimg.org] http://s8.postimg.org/tzi2eblt1/Stance_3.png

Rending Blow (11 Godly Mana Potions and 1 Godly Spirit Potion)
[Didn't use 1 Godly Spirit Potion—should've brought 1 Godly Mana Potion.]

[s24.postimg.org] http://s24.postimg.org/ensm3htlx/Rending_1.png
[s24.postimg.org] http://s24.postimg.org/qe6jkvmed/Rending_2.png
[s24.postimg.org] http://s24.postimg.org/eqchqbx9h/Rending_3.png

Now, shut up. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Dude, are you shitting me? I mean, if you are, I can roll with it...but...

How fucking awesome do you think my eyesight is? 20/0.5?

How can I rely on the word of someone whose "proof" can't be read without an electron microscope?

Nope, sorry, my mistake, it was Chrome misbehaving itself for some reason.

Will attempt to repro your results when I have time, and until then, the field is yours, sir.

And I don't ever recall telling you to shut your trap.

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post Apr 18 2013, 13:08
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How does spirit stance work for mages? Do they even use it when casting spells?


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When toggled, physical damage is boosted by +100% and mana cost is reduced by 25%.
The reduced mana cost count towards Innate Arcana's upkeep.

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post Apr 18 2013, 13:22
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QUOTE(Apocalypse Horsemen @ Apr 18 2013, 21:08) *

How does spirit stance work for mages? Do they even use it when casting spells?

Every turn you're in stance, you burn 1 SP and 10% OC.

You can only replenish OC by physical attacks (5%-10% each turn you successfully whack anything) and 1H counter-attacks (3%-5%, I think, per successful counter).

Given that mages don't often use physical attacks (for ET and as a finishing move, usually).

Given that most mages don't have super-deep OC tanks (the higher-levels ones do, sure).

Given that SoL sparks a whole helluva lot more for mages than for melee.

I imagine SS is an opportunistic thing for mages, maybe to renew buffs, rather than the SOP it is for (in deference to aurabolt's rather tender sensitivities) rapier- and estoc-wielding melees.
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post Apr 18 2013, 13:38
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xmagus: click on images to zoom in.
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post Apr 18 2013, 13:38
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Thanks.

Here's another query.

Why is it so difficult to get Exq while playing IWTBH RE? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
(for me at least, & I can't imagine getting a Mag, let alone a Legendary...)

Which do I need to further train up to better my chances?

My current training stats
Scavenger - 25/50
Luck of the Draw - 10/25
Quartermaster - 8/20
Archaeologist - 5/10
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post Apr 18 2013, 13:44
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Simply because RE has only max 10 monsters. You get drops by killing thousands, millions, even.
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post Apr 18 2013, 13:45
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QUOTE(Apocalypse Horsemen @ Apr 18 2013, 18:38) *

Thanks.

Here's another query.

Why is it so difficult to get Exq while playing IWTBH RE? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
(for me at least, & I can't imagine getting a Mag, let alone a Legendary...)

Which do I need to further train up to better my chances?

My current training stats
Scavenger - 25/50
Luck of the Draw - 10/25
Quartermaster - 8/20
Archaeologist - 5/10



increase your LoTD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

i think it's to low for your lvl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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