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what should i do with spare tokens of blood?
i find more than 3 per day so they are piling up.
should i go for IPU or just convert them in chaos tokens doing the 1 token bosses?

Must be nice.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I would keep them in case you hit a dry spell or play less often. Chaos tokens are easier to find then blood.

Chaos tokens are easier to find then blood.

True. I only had ONE blood token dropped against 5-6 Chaos over the past few days. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Must be nice.... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I would keep them in case you hit a dry spell or play less often. Chaos tokens are easier to find then blood.

well, i do all my arenas and usually i find more than 3 per day.
sometimes i find less, but on average i find more than 3, also FSM sometimes drops one as well (usually chaos though).

i won't convert all of them, i will keep a margin of 10-15 tokens to be safe, but there is no point in keeping more since you cannot sell them and you cannot do FSM more than once per day.

i was just undecided if spend the spare tokens on IPU or just convert them into chaos doing 1 token bosses.

my first priority will be to fight again all the battles in order to have a IWBTH clear on all of them (real life is going to be a looooooong battle though).

RL(fire) takes me between FSM(holy) and IPU(dark). If you had ethereal soulstriked/astral hollowforged weapons though, I'd imagine it'd take the least amount of time. I just weaken+imperil+poison(for anti-evade) with absorb to catch SP skills, otherwise regular buffs. Shockblast on RL for more resistance nerf since he starts out at 95 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I'm exploring the "possibility" of getting a elemental phase set.
Is it a good idea to outfit with a mix of the elements (Surtr/Niflheim/Mjolnir/Freyr) or just stick to one type when going into battle.

Stick to one type. You may be able to use one piece of elementalist gossamer that's tier above your phase if your staff isn't elementalist - but full-blown suit of it loses lot of damage due 3+3<3x3.

Is ~41% evade decent for my level?
That's kind of what I've been aiming to raise; after following T_Starrk's advice on playing only shade DW.

True. I only had ONE blood token dropped against 5-6 Chaos over the past few days. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

I'm just the opposite (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I get 5 or 6 Tokens of Blood and maybe 1 Chaos Token, most of the time I get zilch on Chaos Tokens a day

Is ~41% evade decent for my level?
That's kind of what I've been aiming to raise; after following T_Starrk's advice on playing only shade DW.

41% sounds about right. I forget what my evade was at that level though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . I think a very rough estimate would be:

Lv.200 - 40%
Lv.300 - 50%
Lv.400 - 60%

Assuming you continually improve and forge your gear along the way. I think I would need to see your gear to actually tell for sure if you are about where you should be.

Also, shade/dw is a very good style for arena, hourlies and RoB (at least it works very well for me). DW is a bit too tedious for IW and grindfest though (one enemy at a time doesn't translate well to 6-10 mobs over 150+ rounds, lol). I would use estoc/heavy or estoc/kevlar for those modes (I personally use estoc/heavy but I'm currently looking for some bad ass kevlar). But I'm glad another person wants to try dual-wield/shade, trust me, put effort into your gear and you will easily be able to do all arena on IWBTH.

No problem, it seems like I'm doing well. I'm yet to forge any of my gear, and here it is:

Main
Off Hand
Head
Body
Hands
Legs
Feet

I'm still holding out for a decent Exq rapier of balance/nimble for off hand before beginning to forge anything, or build a second set of equipment.
...I wish I was quicker to respond to your offer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Thanks for the kind words of encouragement, though. Seeing a pure shade + DW player such as yourself at a high level gives me the motivation to continue following this style. And you're definitely right, IW/GF is slow as fuck (I'm disgusted that I actually did a lot of rounds without the PA proc, jesus christ that was fucking slow).

So far I've managed all the way up to blazing field on IWBTH (15 RND), Battetoads up to 40 RNDS, Nintendo up to 65 RNDS and Hell for the rest, all the way up to The Trio and the Three. My drop rates are abysmal in all modes, though. Especially for anything but superior-tier gear. Granted, I haven't sunk a great deal of credits into training any of the drop % increasing stuff. (12 into scavenger, 2 into the others respectively).

This post has been edited by cfg123: Apr 12 2013, 15:56

okay , i want to ask your opinion (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

upgrade binding of slaughter or upgrade my LoTD ( 17 ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Yes, I think your gear is good for your level. I had somewhat similar stuff at 200. One thing that I think helps me is that every piece of my gear (including both weapons) have all four melee PABs. Both your weapons and helmet lack endurance, and your leggings and feet lack strength, both of those PABs add to PMI. This is fine for now, just something to keep in mind when you find upgrades in the future. Also having four PABs on your one-hand weapons will guarantee all butcher and swift strike when you go to level them (and definitely level your weapons, you'll want the extra speed from swift strike, and all the extra elemental strikes really help dual-wield so you want void strike and another strike on both your weapons. You can also throw infusions on top, lol).

I like your breastplate, decent evade/pmi and good PABs. Damn, I wish I could find agile shade too, I can't find any with better rolls than my shade though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) . You'll probably want to wait until you upgrade your gear one more time to start forging it (well, I forged my weapons a little at your level, but I ended up replacing them so it was a bit of a waste). Your gauntlets and your helmet definitely have low evade though. I know it's tough to find good rolls on shade, everytime you see something with good evade the other rolls are fucked (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (there's just too many stats on shade, lol).

As for a rapier, go with balance. High accuracy, high proc/turns. Club will work for now definitely. And yeah, melee without PA is painfully slow (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . That's why I only use styles that include rapier or estoc. It's gotten a lot better since the monster mitigation change a few patches ago. My club use to do hardly any damage at all until PA proc'ed, now it seems to do a lot better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .

Also, yes, those drop trainings a painfully low. Work on them, man. LotD actually does a lot. Ever since I got it to 19 I've gotten a shitload of exquisites, so definitely worth it, imo. Scavenger is also very important so you can become self-sufficient with potions and shards and shit.

This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Apr 12 2013, 16:42

Yes, I think your gear is good for your level. I had somewhat similar stuff at 200. One thing that I think helps me is that every piece of my gear (including both weapons) have all four melee PABs. Both your weapons and helmet lack endurance, and your leggings and feet lack strength, both of those PABs add to PMI. This is fine for now, just something to keep in mind when you find upgrades in the future

Indeed. I've been slowly working my way through sup to exq gear. Now that I'm at exq gear any upgrades will require said 4 PABs.

Also having four PABs on your one-hand weapons will guarantee all butcher and swift strike when you go to level them (and definitely level your weapons, you'll want the extra speed from swift strike, and all the extra elemental strikes really help dual-wield so you want void strike and another strike on both your weapons. You can also throw infusions on top, lol).

This, I did not know. I'll definately look for weapons with 4 PABs. Unfortunately exq+ ethereal weapons seem to be rare as fuck. Let alone exquisite rapiers and clubs, for some reason those seem to be the two items I simply cannot find for sale with 4PABs, heck even three.

I like your breastplate, decent evade/pmi and good PABs. Damn, I wish I could find agile shade too, I can't find any with better rolls than my shade though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) . You'll probably want to wait until you upgrade your gear one more time to start forging it (well, I forged my weapons a little at your level, but I ended up replacing them so it was a bit of a waste). Your gauntlets and your helmet definitely have low evade though. I know it's tough to find good rolls on shade, everytime you see something with good evade the other rolls are fucked (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (there's just too many stats on shade, lol).

Those agile prefixes, mang. I thought shade was expensive and rare before I found ones for sale with said prefix. Those boots set me back 400k (granted, I knew they were overpriced but they were the best thing around at the time).

One thing you've mentioned quite a bit here, and which I'm having trouble grasping the concept of, is equip rolls. I understand that the evade is low on the gauntlets, but isn't it worth the trade off for 5 PABs? Especially if INT isn't one of them? I've the same thought on the helmet, only it has 4 PABs.

As for a rapier, go with balance. High accuracy, high proc/turns. Club will work for now definitely. And yeah, melee without PA is painfully slow (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . That's why I only use styles that include rapier or estoc. It's gotten a lot better since the monster mitigation change a few patches ago. My club use to do hardly any damage at all until PA proc'ed, now it seems to do a lot better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .

Yeah, I immediately edited by WTB after posting that to only the balance suffix. I recently got the club so I'll stick with it.
Like I said, it's so fucking difficult to find those two kinds of weapons with the ethereal prefix. In retrospect it's beginning to feel like the hardest part of sustaining this play style is obtaining the equipment.

Also, yes, those drop trainings a painfully low. Work on them, man. LotD actually does a lot. Ever since I got it to 19 I've gotten a shitload of exquisites, so definitely worth it, imo. Scavenger is also very important so you can become self-sufficient with potions and shards and shit.

I didn't realize how sustainable HV could become simply from training those drops. I'll have to sink some credits into them. Up until reading this, the idea of exquisite+ drops and never having to buy potions again (let alone getting some artifacts once in a while) seemed like a dream.

One thing you've mentioned quite a bit here, and which I'm having trouble grasping the concept of, is equip rolls. I understand that the evade is low on the gauntlets, but isn't it worth the trade off for 5 PABs? Especially if INT isn't one of them? I've the same thought on the helmet, only it has 4 PABs.

Lol (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) , yeah, obsessing over rolls on equipment is might be a bit too early for you. Eventually if you will play long enough you won't be satisfied by anything that doesn't have at least exquisite max on the important stats (some guys aren't satisfied by anything but legendary max (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ).

If you don't know what the "max" roll is for each equipment piece and quality type then refer to the wiki (sometimes the wiki is off too, but it's the best resource right now. I know some players who track their own stats though, lol):
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges

Those are the base stats. There's a script for giving those stats. Not sure what the latest version is though. I usually just use the equipment calculator for stats I want to know.

But yes, sometimes trade-offs have to be made. But what really defines a great piece of equipment is when you don't have to make any trade-offs on the key stats.

This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Apr 12 2013, 17:17

Haha, wow.
I always thought that page had something to do with the actual attack range of weapons, not that it made any sense, which is probably why I never checked it!

Also, further to your point of the figures being off, I can already see some discrepancies between the supposed max evade and my own gear. But I digress, it is indeed a good baseline, especially for someone at my level.

This post has been edited by cfg123: Apr 12 2013, 17:26

Just to give you an example of how good rolls can raise the value of equipment. Here's the Katalox of Destruction that I tried to win this morning that went for 3.5 million (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) :
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ce7a40a19a

The reason it went that high is because of two stats really:
MDB: 40.46 (Magnificent max is 41.23 so within .77, and MDB is the most important stat on destruction staffs)
Dark EDB: 3.58 (Mag max is 3.59, so just .01 difference, probably a rounding issue, lol)
Wisdom is also exquisite max, so that helps too.

So basically a great destruction staff for a dark mage. Having these stats maxed out helps a lot when you go to forge them.

This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Apr 12 2013, 17:45

does this rainbow aura bonus
+50% Health/Magic/Spirit Points regeneration
also work inside battle?
of course i'm not taling about health regen, i mean magic and spirit.

This post has been edited by Malenk: Apr 12 2013, 18:43

Thanks Starrk for explaining the pricing. I was wondering about that too.

does this rainbow aura bonus
+50% Health/Magic/Spirit Points regeneration
also work inside battle?
of course i'm not taling about health regen, i mean magic and spirit.

Yup.

Just to give you an example of how good rolls can raise the value of equipment. Here's the Katalox of Destruction that I tried to win this morning that went for 3.5 million (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) :
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ce7a40a19a

The reason it went that high is because of two stats really:
MDB: 40.46 (Magnificent max is 41.23 so within .77, and MDB is the most important stat on destruction staffs)
Dark EDB: 3.58 (Mag max is 3.59, so just .01 difference, probably a rounding issue, lol)
Wisdom is also exquisite max, so that helps too.

So basically a great destruction staff for a dark mage. Having these stats maxed out helps a lot when you go to forge them.

Wow nice stick. I wonder if another reason it went so high is bc Konata is weak to wind. I think she gives me the biggest problems during the schoolgirl marathons.

Planning on giving 2H a spin (ethereal estoc of some sort) sometime soon. Anything I should change about my fighting style after using DW pretty much my entire time?

Wow nice stick. I wonder if another reason it went so high is bc Konata is weak to wind. I think she gives me the biggest problems during the schoolgirl marathons.

Good job noticing. Yes that does raise the value but not by a large amount.