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Apr 8 2013, 14:29
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Apocalypse Horsemen
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Apr 8 2013, 19:35)  grinding deprecating is really easy: take your best mana conservation staff, go in a easy crude IW, kill all the monster save for one, cast weaken on him, press R and put a weight on the key, go back after 2-3 minutes to drink a mana potion.
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This should be included into the HV Advice page...
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Apr 8 2013, 14:59
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Zellmer
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Apr 8 2013, 06:35) 
in my opinion training assimilator is a huge waste of credits. i'm nearly at level 250 and the leveling speed has slowed down so much that proficiencies are naturally catching up to my level. save for deprecating, but grinding deprecating is really easy: take your best mana conservation staff, go in a easy crude IW, kill all the monster save for one, cast weaken on him, press R and put a weight on the key, go back after 2-3 minutes to drink a mana potion.
Think most of my proficiencies are like 1/4th of their max. Leveling them up is far more annoying then item worlds and the like outside of the ones easily leveled up with mana conservation. It's worth it for people like me that just do a few IWBTH hourly battles a day and check their monsters for gifts as the extent of their average time with Hentai Verse, heh. This post has been edited by Zellmer: Apr 8 2013, 14:59
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Apr 8 2013, 15:14
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Nightwishman
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I think I found a bug; or a random glitch:
I failed a riddlemaster and lost 20 stamina; however it was my first riddlemaster for that Arena; and I havn't failed any other riddlemasters on my other arenas;
I thought that it was -1 stamina, then -5, then -10, then -15, then -20? Or something like that, but not -20 right off the bat?
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Apr 8 2013, 15:38
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Malenk
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Apr 8 2013, 13:14)  I think I found a bug; or a random glitch:
I failed a riddlemaster and lost 20 stamina; however it was my first riddlemaster for that Arena; and I havn't failed any other riddlemasters on my other arenas;
I thought that it was -1 stamina, then -5, then -10, then -15, then -20? Or something like that, but not -20 right off the bat?
ehm... there is no bug. you need to wait 3 full days without mistakes to have the counter reset, otherwise it will always be -20. but seriously, pay more attention and don't fail the riddlemaster. it's an anti-bot system and it should be easy if you pay a bit of attention.
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Apr 8 2013, 16:13
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Apr 8 2013, 05:14)  I think I found a bug; or a random glitch:
Working as intended.
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Apr 8 2013, 16:40
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HNTI
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QUOTE in my opinion training assimilator is a huge waste of credits.
Well, it's not that I'm going to train it higher any time soon, but it helps me to catch up with melee , light & heavy armor proficiencies. Just wonder what will be more profitable, the 9th archeologist or crystarium I. Probably the latter one (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif). QUOTE I think I found a bug; or a random glitch:
I failed a riddlemaster and lost 20 stamina; however it was my first riddlemaster for that Arena; and I havn't failed any other riddlemasters on my other arenas;
I thought that it was -1 stamina, then -5, then -10, then -15, then -20? Or something like that, but not -20 right off the bat? You may encounter such "bug" more often than you think. You know what ? If you make any mistake from so on, every on of them will award you with -20 for next 3 days, since you've made the first mistake.
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Apr 8 2013, 17:49
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Malenk
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Apr 8 2013, 14:40)  Well, it's not that I'm going to train it higher any time soon, but it helps me to catch up with melee , light & heavy armor proficiencies. Just wonder what will be more profitable, the 9th archeologist or crystarium I. Probably the latter one (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif). You may encounter such "bug" more often than you think. You know what ? If you make any mistake from so on, every on of them will award you with -20 for next 3 days, since you've made the first mistake. definitely crystarium, expecially if you do a lot of grindfest. it will also increase the crystals you get from artifacts and it should be cheaper (3.75M if i'm not wrong). btw it's not the first mistake but the last.
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Apr 8 2013, 18:10
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chaos9
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its just count the number of wrong answers in the last 3 days if im right
so if you have 10 wrong answers 73h ago and 1 wrong answers 24h ago you loose only 5
if you have 10 wrong answers 73h ago and 1 wrong answers 71h ago and 1 wrong answers 24h ago you loose only 10
This post has been edited by chaos9: Apr 8 2013, 18:11
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Apr 8 2013, 18:33
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Nightwishman
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Apr 8 2013, 15:38)  ehm... there is no bug. you need to wait 3 full days without mistakes to have the counter reset, otherwise it will always be -20. but seriously, pay more attention and don't fail the riddlemaster. it's an anti-bot system and it should be easy if you pay a bit of attention.
I havn't made a mistake on the Riddlemaster since last monday.
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Apr 8 2013, 19:33
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Holy crap, finally found an ethereal club of slaughter I thought was a slight downgrade for a trade in consistency. I can't believe how much damage I was losing out on due to crush resistance, glad I posted here. Should I work on switching out my rapier as well? (http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php?eid=19480641&key=b26d900202) or work on switching all my gear from Kevlar to shade fleet/shadowdancer?
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Apr 8 2013, 20:38
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HNTI
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QUOTE its just count the number of wrong answers in the last 3 days if im right
so if you have 10 wrong answers 73h ago and 1 wrong answers 24h ago you loose only 5
if you have 10 wrong answers 73h ago and 1 wrong answers 71h ago and 1 wrong answers 24h ago you loose only 10
Ok, maybe I have no idea how does it work, but from what I've observed it was taking me -20 for every next mistake after the first three. I thought it resets after 72 h of flawless gameplay from the first occurrence of failed riddle. QUOTE definitely crystarium, expecially if you do a lot of grindfest. So-so, I mostly clear arenas = profit. I own like 62 hath, so it will be less than 3.75 mln. This post has been edited by HNTI: Apr 8 2013, 20:41
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Apr 8 2013, 21:00
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Lement
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Tyrlidd:...I absolutely love that burden and interference, perfect for featherweight (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) anyhow, while the rapier is less than legendary max thanks to featherweight nulling it it is still quite usable with light. I doubt you can find one non-ethereal/elemental that's worth trading it for due how big part elemental strikes are of DW damage. You could consider mixing the light armors - though with kevlar you have to feather to get rid of burden for maximum performance. Despite that some players favor build of 4 kevlar and 1 shade. HNTI: Crystarium is nearly all-or-nothing. Crystarium I isn't significantly better than IWing for other people.
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Apr 8 2013, 21:23
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HNTI
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IW is the worst choice for me (money-wise). I barely make 150 rounds on Heroic with maging with my crappy magnificent arctic staff of focus.
Arena > GF > IW
This post has been edited by HNTI: Apr 8 2013, 21:23
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Apr 8 2013, 22:19
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Malenk
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is there a reason to do IW over grindfest if you don't need potencies?
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Apr 8 2013, 22:27
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Tyrlidd
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QUOTE(Lement @ Apr 8 2013, 15:00)  Tyrlidd:...I absolutely love that burden and interference, perfect for featherweight (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) anyhow, while the rapier is less than legendary max thanks to featherweight nulling it it is still quite usable with light. I doubt you can find one non-ethereal/elemental that's worth trading it for due how big part elemental strikes are of DW damage. You could consider mixing the light armors - though with kevlar you have to feather to get rid of burden for maximum performance. Despite that some players favor build of 4 kevlar and 1 shade. So just work on getting the rapier to Hollowforged in my spare time then? On that topic, if I hollowforge a elemental weapon does it keep it's original elemental strike in addition to gaining void? While I am a long ways off from maxing anything myself, what Potencies do I want on off-hands and gear? I imagine for main hand you want all the Butcher you can get. and a question on the topic of enchantments. What do full shade user use? Featherweight to bring interference down or a spread of resistances? This post has been edited by Tyrlidd: Apr 8 2013, 22:39
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Apr 8 2013, 22:40
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Nightwishman
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QUOTE(Tyrlidd @ Apr 8 2013, 22:27)  So just work on getting the rapier to Hollowforged in my spare time then? On that topic, if I hollowforge a elemental weapon does it keep it's original elemental strike in addition to gaining void?
While I am a long ways off from maxing anything myself, what Potencies do I want on off-hands and gear? I imagine for main hand you want all the Butcher you can get.
and a question on the topic of enchantments. What do full shade user use? Featherweight to bring interference down or a spread of resistances?
It keeps its original and gains void, yes.
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Apr 8 2013, 23:38
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Lement
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@Tyrlidd: No, try to get a better rapier before that - though a few iws doesn't hurt. Being void isn't nowhere near as must for rapiers as piercing can certainly take less time on, say, giants. But I was under the impression that your next upgrade is a bit below 400k.
As for potencies, given that swift strike acts as mana conversation now and stacks I believe you want it maxed on everything. Not sure about PABs, but I wouldn't be surprised if butcher was better than those on offhand too, the amounts are quite low :s Strikes should probably be sth like holy/dark or elec/soul.
@HNTI: Shouldn't happen - anyhow, if you can maintain heroic/hard without losing significant speed, you'll be getting more rewards(if servicing) than from gf with crys1. That said, that's just until you've gotten enough cash though, since a mage has to be rather unimaginably(for me) strong to match crys3 in rewards/time.
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Apr 9 2013, 02:13
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Apr 9 2013, 02:23)  IW is the worst choice for me (money-wise). I barely make 150 rounds on Heroic with maging with my crappy magnificent arctic staff of focus.
Arena > GF > IW
Wrong tbh. GF > IW > Arena.
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Apr 9 2013, 03:06
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LeFlame-Befoe
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QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 8 2013, 00:42)  Also relevant link is this one http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges as it gives the formula for the base stat given in the formula in your page as well, including the quality as one of the variables.
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