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I have a few questions for both players in all level range.

1) How long can you survive in normal/hard grindfest with melee/mage?
With full holy phase, i can only last until ~500/~300 with shard.

2) Do people fight low level boss to convert token of blood to token of chaos?

3) Do kevlar work better than plate without featherweighted?

Thank.

1) i'm also a holy mage and i can last until ~600 if i really try, this without shard (atm my staff only has 5 mana conservation). but your level is higher so i don't really know if it makes a huge difference or not.
i don't understand why you last less rounds when you use shard. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

2) i personally don't. if i do all my arenas i usually find more than the 3 tokens of blood i need for the daily FSM, but i usually save the spare tokens for the days i don't have much time.
if you find yourself with a surplus of tokens of blood there is no reason for not converting some of them in chaos tokens doing the lower bosses. but i would wait to have at least 15 of them before doing that.

3) i don't really know. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

3) Do kevlar work better than plate without featherweighted?

No, plate comes with much better PMI, endurance and usually strength too. Mana isn't an issue for the majority of melee so interference doesn't matter. Burden only matters when it goes over 75 really and you can have a full plate set-up with an ethereal estoc and keep it under that (I do at least). Yes, kevlar has a little evade and more resist but plate has a much better base PMI to start with so if you go to forge it you will get much better results. I have no doubt that if you compared a full set of legendary plates with a full set of legendary kevlar the plates would perform better. I am currently trying to put together a kevlar set though cause I want to be able to use an estoc with light armor, I love light armor, lol.

1) i'm also a holy mage and i can last until ~600 if i really try, this without shard (atm my staff only has 5 mana conservation). but your level is higher so i don't really know if it makes a huge difference or not.
i don't understand why you last less rounds when you use shard. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

~300 round for hard (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
If I do not shard my weapon, I can only do ~400 on normal and ~250 on hard.

1) i'm also a holy mage and i can last until ~600 if i really try, this without shard (atm my staff only has 5 mana conservation). but your level is higher so i don't really know if it makes a huge difference or not.

It certainly does, a lot. Can't do this anymore. Ah, how much I'd pay to lose exp....

This post has been edited by Lement: Apr 6 2013, 17:27

It certainly does, a lot. Can't do this anymore. Ah, how much I'd pay to lose exp....

Your example is due to patch. not level.

last patch was 10 days before that ?

last patch was 10 days before that ?

Tokenizer make monsters grow fast. Most of the high PL monsters should be fully upgraded. Its just a matter of time until mid-PL monsters, which LV200~ player can face, also partial upgraded.

Few more questions.
If I go shade shadowdancer what should be my PAB priority? More is better obviously, but I can't exactly afford all the 500k+ ones I see in WTS. Should I worry about damage mitigation or focus on evade/resist?
Is the way I'm leveling my stats fine? (image on previous page). I'm not sure about Dex and Agi and the only reason I have pumped as much into wisdom and int as I have is so I get more mana when I focus.
Is it better to have a crappy ethereal club with 2 or less (possibly lower) PAB and lower stun rate, or a good elemental club with 3 PAB? I've seen a few ethereal clubs of slaughter around that I can afford, but they usually have low/few PAB, damage, 1 turn stun/terrible stun rate or all of the above.

This post has been edited by Tyrlidd: Apr 6 2013, 20:03

You won't grind thousands of tokens in two weeks, and chaos doesn't add that significantly to middling monsters' kills/hour anyway. And even after thousands of tokens are ground, higher level still means you face more chaosed monsters.

@Tyrlidd: STR, DEX, END for pabs, with less attention to WIS, AGI, INT. Evade/PMI/damage is still quite important, but I'll leave this part to shade players.

And crushing weapons should ALWAYS do void.

This post has been edited by Lement: Apr 6 2013, 20:11

Colman > [imageshack.us] Last time I tried it seriously.
No real change in stuff.

Few more questions.
If I go shade shadowdancer what should be my PAB priority? More is better obviously, but I can't exactly afford all the 500k+ ones I see in WTS. Should I worry about damage mitigation or focus on evade/resist?
Is the way I'm leveling my stats fine? (image on previous page). I'm not sure about Dex and Agi and the only reason I have pumped as much into wisdom and int as I have is so I get more mana when I focus.
Is it better to have a crappy ethereal club with 2 or less (possibly lower) PAB and lower stun rate, or a good elemental club with 3 PAB? I've seen a few ethereal clubs of slaughter around that I can afford, but they usually have low/few PAB, damage, 1 turn stun/terrible stun rate or all of the above.

PAB priority on shade is having all four of the main melee PABs. Agility is still important for shade players because of how much it adds to evade. A piece with low evade and an awesome agility PAB can often give you more evade than a piece with a higher evade roll. If any piece is missing Str, Dex, Agi, or End then 99% of the time that kills it for me.

You should be focused on both evade and pmi for shade. Evade is more important though. Forget about resist. Don't worry about it. You'll get a lot of resist wearing full shade anyway, whether a piece has a bad or good roll doesn't matter. Damage and crit on shade are also important to me, although crit is only on SD. Btw, if you can't find Shadowdancer pieces with good rolls then fleet is perfectly fine. It's much easier to find fleet with good evade rolls anyway. I wear 3 fleet and 2 SD because of this. Of course refer to the wiki to see if the piece has good evade/pmi/damage/PAB rolls. Personally I am more concerned about evade/pmi/PABs on shade than I am damage.

Well, if you want my opinion on stat distribution for shade, it's this: Str=Dex=Agi=End=Wis>Int. Keep them all even besides intelligence, they are all useful to your build, imo. Keep intelligence at one-fourth the cost of the others.

If you wear shade then you should use ethereal weapons. Burden kills evade. And yeah, it's fucking hard to find good clubs and rapiers. Just do the best you can, lol. I used some pretty shitty clubs at your level too but it got me by until I could find/afford something better. Also ethereal has void strike now. So if you don't level the elemental then it's pretty much superior to it in every way (not to mention crushing damage sucks, especially against FSM and such).

Got these two staves from self-satisfaction trophies,

I'm pretty sure the Curse-weaver one is salvage only; but not sure, And don't know if the willow staff is good at all?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d22b1b5758
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4d01cf869a

This post has been edited by Nightwishman: Apr 6 2013, 22:12

I have a few questions for both players in all level range.

1) How long can you survive in normal/hard grindfest with melee/mage?
With full holy phase, i can only last until ~500/~300 with shard.

2) Do people fight low level boss to convert token of blood to token of chaos?

3) Do kevlar work better than plate without featherweighted?

Thank.

1. I don't have time to do grindfest.
2. I used to, but after advancing to FSM, I save blood tokens for only FSM/Noodles.
3. After going on T_Starks recomeendations, my plates reduces huge amounts of damage from monsters. I either want to go full evade or full PMI, never inbetween. And my mage set, which has ~40% evade, still takes lots of hits on IWTBH, and I manage to not die each turn now, but have to cure often. Below 35% evade, SoL would trigger almost every 4 turns. What is a target evade for level 300+? Thanks

This post has been edited by treesloth16: Apr 6 2013, 22:25

What is a target evade for level 300+? Thanks

For full shade you should have at least 50% evade at 300 if your gear is any good. You should have 60% by 400, imo. Not sure for mages. Heavy melee will have anywhere from 0 to about 5 percent depending on burden and agility rolls.

This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Apr 6 2013, 22:40

Around which level I should be reaching 200 % magic hit chance ? I know it partly depends on gear, but more or less.

I'd like a recap of the important stats for phase gear, and why, so I can get some help dealing with this piece (and some others), maybe in prep for selling it. I see a wide range of prices in WTS for similar gear but not quite the same, so I don't understand what builds or hurts its value...beyond max EDB primarily, which this has...followed by...everything?

Exquisite Phase Robe of Heimdall

I've used it for quite a while to help build some of my proficiencies, but I rarely mage enough to make it truly worthwhile. I think it might be a pretty good piece...but does the absence of 3 or more PABs significantly affect it's value? Only having WIS and INT seems to have pushed most of it's other stats into the near max ranges.

Around which level I should be reaching 200 % magic hit chance ? I know it partly depends on gear, but more or less.

450+

The rare materials used for the upgrade do I get from where?

Crystallized Phazon Phase armor
Shade Fragment Shade armor
Kevlar Piece Kevlar armor
Repurposed Actuator Power armor

Grindfest or Itemworld ?

I'd like a recap of the important stats for phase gear, and why, so I can get some help dealing with this piece (and some others), maybe in prep for selling it. I see a wide range of prices in WTS for similar gear but not quite the same, so I don't understand what builds or hurts its value...beyond max EDB primarily, which this has...followed by...everything?

Exquisite Phase Robe of Heimdall

I've used it for quite a while to help build some of my proficiencies, but I rarely mage enough to make it truly worthwhile. I think it might be a pretty good piece...but does the absence of 3 or more PABs significantly affect it's value? Only having WIS and INT seems to have pushed most of it's other stats into the near max ranges.

It's hard to say how much it is worth; a very nice Exq Heimdall Robe sold at auction earlier today for only 30k. Yours has high acc, evasion, int and wis, but no Agility, something I like to have on all my phase equipment. But 5.5+ evasion is nothing to laugh at, so I would try to sell it at >100k.

The rare materials used for the upgrade do I get from where?

Crystallized Phazon Phase armor
Shade Fragment Shade armor
Kevlar Piece Kevlar armor
Repurposed Actuator Power armor

Grindfest or Itemworld ?

If you're rich, you buy from others in WTB forum. Otherwise you have to wait for your monsters to gift them for you, which for me is never. You can make monsters in Monster lab, under Bazaar menu, using Chaos tokens that drop in battlefields, generally arenas and ring of bloods. But I have gotten chaos tokens in IW and Hourlies. I don't do grindfest to know about that.