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post Apr 5 2013, 14:59
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QUOTE(unknownxz. @ Apr 5 2013, 20:44) *

If i have that rapier i will try this build,
Dw, use the rapier as mainhand and waki of balance/nimble 4 Pabs with high aspd(+1x%) for offhand, and plus aspd form IW. Well.. just an idea, i think this build quite playable. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

1H with shield + full shielded plate is also playable, but slow.
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post Apr 5 2013, 16:24
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QUOTE(somewhen @ Apr 5 2013, 01:25) *

What kind of build does this rapier fit into? I'm currently using it as OH in a DW/Light armor setup. I ask because my good drops have been this, cloth and longswords and I've gotten to the point where I will probably be buying armor and changing playstyle to fit the weapon if it is worth fitting around.


Wow you have a very good rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I never got as good drop as yours >,< ; I usually bought it from the market (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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I'm still asking is it worth it if I play battle mage ?

So upping the abilities on Holy/Dark while still wearing Shade/Arcanist and DW ?

Holy/Dark for AOE and the rest will be dealth with Melee
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post Apr 5 2013, 16:36
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QUOTE(Frostbite @ Apr 5 2013, 06:24) *


I'm still asking is it worth it if I play battle mage ?

So upping the abilities on Holy/Dark while still wearing Shade/Arcanist and DW ?

Holy/Dark for AOE and the rest will be dealth with Melee


No it's not. Casting AOE is just a complete waste of mana. With no staff and edb phase it hardly does any damage at all. It's better to save mana for supportive spells and to just use your weapons which actually inflict damage.
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post Apr 5 2013, 17:21
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1)At my current level, 20 Stamina regen/day doesn't seem enough for arenas anymore. Should I keep playing all the arenas even after I hit 79 Stamina or should I run only a specific few arenas per day?
2)As a Heavy Melee, how much stats (ie damage,hit chance,proficiencies etc) should you have to successfully take on the 100+ round arenas on IWBTH difficulty? Besides 70% PMI/MMI...
3)Should I up the difficulty level to Battletoads? Almost all of my equipment is courtesy of Wolfgirl's free shop, some I got from the bazaar.
4)Am I at the level where its necessary to upgrade my equipment through IW and/or forge?


This is my set for Random Encounters and Ring of Blood:
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Off-Hand
Head
Body
Hands
Legs
Feet

This is my set for Arenas :
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Head
Body
Hands
Legs
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I have attached pictures of my current stats below
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post Apr 5 2013, 17:34
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QUOTE(y-u-no-face111 @ Apr 5 2013, 23:21) *
1)At my current level, 20 Stamina regen/day doesn't seem enough for arenas anymore. Should I keep playing all the arenas even after I hit 79 Stamina or should I run only a specific few arenas per day?
2)As a Heavy Melee, how much stats (ie damage,hit chance,proficiencies etc) should you have to successfully take on the 100+ round arenas on IWBTH difficulty? Besides 70% PMI/MMI...
3)Should I up the difficulty level to Battletoads? Almost all of my equipment is courtesy of Wolfgirl's free shop, some I got from the bazaar.
4)Am I at the level where its necessary to upgrade my equipment through IW and/or forge?

1) IMO, there is no point to keep stamina always greater than 79. A single normal GF can bring your stamina from 99 to <80 anyway. FYI, stamina used up speed is 1/5 when stamina <80.
2) Some people here recommend 70% PMI for high level arena in IWBTH, but not really necessary from my past experience. It is because besides PMI, there are still block/evade/parry. Also, if you kill fast, you can also take less hit.
So, if you can finish RE in IWBTH without using potion, any arena below school girl should be alright. If you run out of mana near the end, shard all the armor and try again next time. If you do not care about speed, you can use mace to stun all enemy and use focus to recover mana.
3) If you want to level up faster, yes. If you want to play mindlessly, no.
4) I think your heavy set is good enough. If you want significant improvement, I think you need to spend at least a million.

edit: typo

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post Apr 5 2013, 17:42
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QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 5 2013, 15:34) *

1) IMO, there is no point to keep stamina always greater than 79. A single normal GF can bring your stamina from 99 to <80 anyway. FYI, stamina used up speed is 1/5 when stamina <80.
2) Some people here recommend 70% PMI for high level arena in IWBTH, but not really necessary from my past experience. It is because besides PMI, there are still block/evade/parry. Also, if you kill fast, you can also take less hit.
So, if you can finish RE in IWBTH without using potion, any arena below school girl should be alright. If you run out of mana near the end, shard all the armor and try again next time. If you do not care about speed, you can use mace to stun all enemy and use focus to recover mana.
3) If you want to level up faster, yes. If you want to play mindlessly, no.
4) I think your heavy set is good enough. If you want significant improvement, I think you need to spend at least a million.

edit: typo


Thank you for the answer, I was always worried about my Stamina and being undergeared but now I see it's fine. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 5 2013, 17:44
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I always keep my stamina above 79 for arenas. Between the ones I get from artifacts and a few I buy for 11-12k sometimes it is easy. Also, you clear faster, get more experience and more credits. Imo it's worth it. Grindfest and IW are completely different matters. I like playing IW at great stamina though. I clear higher difficulty much faster at great stamina so it's worth it to me.
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post Apr 5 2013, 17:52
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Apr 5 2013, 23:44) *
I always keep my stamina above 79 for arenas. Between the ones I get from artifacts and a few I buy for 11-12k sometimes it is easy. Also, you clear faster, get more experience and more credits. Imo it's worth it. Grindfest and IW are completely different matters. I like playing IW at great stamina though. I clear higher difficulty much faster at great stamina so it's worth it to me.

Only for player who can clear IWBTH arena fast. I'm sure he have not reached that state yet. And I would recommend him to spend more credit on training rather than ED/armor. Weapon should be replaced in near future, but considering the price of good ethereal estoc now.......
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post Apr 5 2013, 17:55
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Can anyone tell me if this Exq Robe of Fenrir is worth more than 500k? Thanks

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=8952253a02
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post Apr 5 2013, 17:57
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Apr 5 2013, 23:55) *
Can anyone tell me if this Exq Robe of Fenrir is worth more than 500k? Thanks

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=8952253a02

I think so
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post Apr 5 2013, 18:10
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Apr 5 2013, 15:44) *

I always keep my stamina above 79 for arenas. Between the ones I get from artifacts and a few I buy for 11-12k sometimes it is easy. Also, you clear faster, get more experience and more credits. Imo it's worth it. Grindfest and IW are completely different matters. I like playing IW at great stamina though. I clear higher difficulty much faster at great stamina so it's worth it to me.


i always do my areans with 80+ stamina.
a single energy drink gives you 400 rounds of great stamina, at 12000 credits per ED (you can find them for less if you are not in a hurry) it's 30 credits per round.
with the +50% bonus to credits you need to gain an average of 90 credits per round to break even.
doing your arenas at Hell (save for the early ones) you break even with some change to spare.
for schoolgirls nightmare is enough.
so basically you get the damage and exp bonus for free.

i'm training scavenger and archaeologist hoping to become self sufficient soon.
well not actually training them anymore, i set up a rule for trainings: if they cost more than 10% of my credits they can wait.
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post Apr 5 2013, 19:08
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Apr 5 2013, 05:19) *

Can one of you high level peons look through my inventory list tomorrow, i'll send a pm with a pastebin link.
I need an assessment of my loot value.

I don't know much about equipment rolls and all that jazz, i'm just powerlevelling.
Going to bed.

No one wants to take a look for me?
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post Apr 5 2013, 22:35
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QUOTE(Lement @ Apr 5 2013, 03:46) *

I often see lowbies spending 300,000 on soon-to-become-obsolete equipments when the same amount would've bought them the correct ones that can later carry them through The Trio and the Tree on IWBTH at Level 250, 300, 350, and so on—that's where I'm coming from.

Apparently, you had a different experience when you were at their level though, so … whatever, what you said below has been noted.
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In the end, why not say "your best balance/nimble dagger/wakishashi/shortsword until 200, then rapier"?
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post Apr 6 2013, 01:59
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More often than not, when I tagged 10 mobs with Weaken I only gain 0.01 deprecating proficiency. What's the min. amount of training on Assimilator I should do so that the proficiency gain rate becomes noticeably better?
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post Apr 6 2013, 02:24
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Proficiency gain rate is mostly tied to how close you already are to the cap.
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post Apr 6 2013, 03:21
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QUOTE(Maximum_Joe @ Apr 6 2013, 08:24) *

Proficiency gain rate is mostly tied to how close you already are to the cap.

Oh, there's a cap in each battle/round?
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post Apr 6 2013, 03:29
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Noo

Your base proficiencies are capped at your current player level. The gain chance of a proficiency decreases as its base approaches that cap.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Proficiencies#Gains
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post Apr 6 2013, 03:31
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Apr 5 2013, 09:55) *

Can anyone tell me if this Exq Robe of Fenrir is worth more than 500k? Thanks

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=8952253a02

400k would be my limit.
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post Apr 6 2013, 03:46
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QUOTE(n125 @ Apr 6 2013, 09:29) *

Noo

Your base proficiencies are capped at your current player level. The gain chance of a proficiency decreases as its base approaches that cap.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Proficiencies#Gains

Oohhh, aye. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Apr 6 2013, 06:40
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treesloth: I'd guess sth like 1 to 1.5 mil, judging from few past auctions and magescore.

T_Starrk/aurabolt: Well noted.
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