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post Apr 2 2013, 08:44
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Apr 2 2013, 08:36) *

Well, it's only 10 levels, so not quite as bad as 100. 98 rounds, maybe you should try it on Nintendo - shouldn't be too hard, and you won't have to level it for hundreds of times.

I've got a similar estoc, fully levelled, if you want it, for about 50k.



Nah, I'm good on mine.

I don't want to spend on an Estoc until I really need to do so, and then only to get a really good one that will last me, forever ish.

Edit: as for IW on Nintendo, nope. Just tried. Got my ass handed to me and all my goldy mana potions were gone by round 40ish. That's not going to work, lol.

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post Apr 2 2013, 09:56
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That estoc is not worth for IW or anything. really. You should not waste your stamina on IW yet, just play ALL arena on highest difficulty as you can, that's the best way for using stamina IMO.

You're correct that it is the best use of stamina, but at his level he only burns about 10 stamina doing that - after all, the drain is not difficulty dependent.

@Nighwishman:
BTW, Pack Rat maxed helps a ton with IWing. But melee IWing is dependent on being able to do higher diffs. of them anyway.

At your level, I was, too, doing IWs - for other people for cash though. And as a mage on easy. Even now with much better gear I can't do better than heroic - and that was hard before 0.74.

Estocs aren't that good at your level though, try scytche or mace until somewhere between 200 and 250. And as for buying better ones, because the way the gear prices scale the older estocs will cost a fraction of newer usually. Besides, it will take a while for you to first obtain 20 million C and then to wait for one to appear on WTS. So settle yourself with 200k then 2mil estoc first.
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post Apr 2 2013, 11:16
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QUOTE(Lement @ Apr 2 2013, 17:56) *

At your level, I was, too, doing IWs - for other people for cash though. And as a mage on easy. Even now with much better gear I can't do better than heroic - and that was hard before 0.74.

Heroic Maging, I presume? I'm actually kinda impressed.
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post Apr 2 2013, 11:40
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Heroic maging isn't all that hard now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) you just a "okay" set and you're good to go.

Used 6 godly mp pots to finish T&T on heroic ( Holy mage with great stamina )

To all those who want to be holy mages, it's not all that bad

Btw: shouldn't scripts and such be added on the advice wiki? I'm using Iron and it's a great help


To the pros:

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=234585804d

junk now?

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post Apr 2 2013, 11:47
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Heroic maging isn't all that hard now tongue.gif


The real pain in the but start when you try to do Nightmare and higher difficulties (physical hits start to hurt and Regen can't keep up with healing). I did End of days at Heroic (Dark mage with shitty gear - at least IMO) and judging by composition of The twilight run, it's just a matter of time which one is willing to spend on ET schoolgirls to clear it.

Holy mage is almost as nice as Dark one (power of the strongest aoe spell is a bit in favor of dark mages) + their gear is probably cheaper then ours (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif), not much but still .

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post Apr 2 2013, 11:49
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We're speaking of doing item worlds, not arenas XD(those I do on hell. Could do higher but then I'd need to cure (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)). In comparison, when I could do them(IWs) hard I could do Eve of Death on BT.

Still did them on easy though since a)faster and (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) less exp.

@cirrux: Exq elemental has never been particularly expensive...

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post Apr 2 2013, 11:54
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my gear at the moment is pretty meh but i have no problems at hell maging in the arena.
level 220+ i do on heroic because i don't want to spend my life replenishing mana, and i would run out of potions doing them at nighmare or hell..

as for the IW i can do it at NM on Ex and lower but i usually go for heroic because it's just a no brainer.
oh i always do my IW at normal stamina so i don't think i would have mana problems even at NM if i did them with great stamina.
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post Apr 2 2013, 11:57
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You must be a masochist to be elemental mage at 220 lvl+ with all these increasing resistances. I still keep my ele gear (mostly superior + 1 file + 1 exq) and killing something at Heroic costs me lots of nerves, let alone time...

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post Apr 2 2013, 12:19
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Apr 2 2013, 16:57) *

You must be a masochist to be elemental mage at 220 lvl+ with all these increasing resistances. I still keep my ele gear (mostly superior + 1 file + 1 exq) and killing something at Heroic costs me lots of nerves, let alone time...

nah , there is lvl 300 above that use elemental as his prime power (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

n125 , hito with his godly staff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Apr 2 2013, 12:33
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What? Oh, yeah.

hito doesn't play anymore, so it's just me now. Possibly. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

I bet there's actually like, only one soul guy out there, which must be pretty lonely.
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post Apr 2 2013, 13:25
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QUOTE(n125 @ Apr 2 2013, 20:33) *

What? Oh, yeah.

hito doesn't play anymore, so it's just me now. Possibly. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

I bet there's actually like, only one soul guy out there, which must be pretty lonely.

A bit hard to play just soul, isn't it, though? Not much gear that will support, grinding profs means you'll have to cast Holy/Dark anyway, and the Sword of Damocles which is TenB getting ready to expunge it.
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post Apr 2 2013, 13:27
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Apr 2 2013, 09:57) *

You must be a masochist to be elemental mage at 220 lvl+ with all these increasing resistances. I still keep my ele gear (mostly superior + 1 file + 1 exq) and killing something at Heroic costs me lots of nerves, let alone time...


true if you go with elementalist stuff, using phases things get better and you can find very good elemental phases at low price to make a pretty decent build.
also at high level people mostly max holy/dark resists because there aren't many elemental mages around, and imperil works wonders for elemental mages (still good for holy/dark).
holy/dark is better but elemental is still viable.


QUOTE(n125 @ Apr 2 2013, 10:33) *

What? Oh, yeah.

hito doesn't play anymore, so it's just me now. Possibly. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

I bet there's actually like, only one soul guy out there, which must be pretty lonely.


what kind of stuff do you need for soul maging?
astral staff i suppose (can you even forge the soul damage?) and heaven sent/daemon child clothing (or maybe mag+ shades of the arcanist?).
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post Apr 2 2013, 13:43
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true if you go with elementalist stuff, using phases things get better and you can find very good elemental phases at low price to make a pretty decent build.
also at high level people mostly max holy/dark resists because there aren't many elemental mages around, and imperil works wonders for elemental mages (still good for holy/dark).
holy/dark is better but elemental is still viable.


The problem is that most monsters have initial elemental stats higher than dark/holy(you can check the table on HVWiki). I have all my fire clothes are phase ones (stats-wise they're better than my dark clothes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)).
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post Apr 2 2013, 14:23
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well if i went for a single element i would go for wind since konata is weak to wind and it would speed up your schoolgirls runs.

but i agree that holy/dark is way superior.
only elementals are resistant to both of them and it's only 25/25 so it's not like you won't deal damage to them. and all the other monsters are weak or with 0 res to at least one of them.
if only there was a X-Imperil spell things would be different.
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post Apr 2 2013, 14:52
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Apr 2 2013, 20:23) *

if only there was a X-Imperil spell things would be different.


No it won't. Are you going to cast it and risk getting hit by every monsters once?
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post Apr 2 2013, 14:54
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only elementals are resistant to both of them and it's only 25/25 so it's not like you won't deal damage to them. and all the other monsters are weak or with 0 res to at least one of them.


Rising them to ~50 doesn't cost much credits.

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Amen to this.
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post Apr 2 2013, 14:54
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I was just wondering, how significant does the artifact drop rate lower from lvling up quarter master? Cause I read that it lowers artifact drop rate since first roll(from scavenger) determines if you get drop or not, then 2nd roll if 1st roll succeeded determines if you get equip or not, and if you get the 2nd roll to succeed then it doesn't go to the 3rd roll which determines if you get a artifact or not.

So apparently if your quartermaster is lvled up, you get a less chance of getting a artifact. Also read that the chance of lowered drop rate for artifact from lvling quartermaster is really minimal, so should one still lvl up quartermaster?
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post Apr 2 2013, 15:10
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So apparently if your quartermaster is lvled up, you get a less chance of getting a artifact. Also read that the chance of lowered drop rate for artifact from lvling quartermaster is really minimal, so should one still lvl up quartermaster?


Sure, you should train more quartermaster if you preferred shitty EQs more than potions. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

And Artifact Roll has only 0.1-0.2% to success, so i think it's depends on luck.

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post Apr 2 2013, 15:11
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Question to the users selling crystals : How much obtaining perk Crystarium is profitable ? I mean how long it takes to get 13 * 1k ?

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post Apr 2 2013, 15:22
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Not long at all, if you can go 1k in gf expect ~10 crystals per round. Which will be 2 with none, 4 with 1 and 6 with 2.

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