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post Oct 30 2010, 18:48
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You did notice that it was listed under Soul Spells, didn't you?
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post Oct 30 2010, 18:55
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Oct 30 2010, 12:48) *

You did notice that it was listed under Soul Spells, didn't you?


Yeah but the wiki said it was some kind of special effect different from the 1st tier Soul Spell. With the 1st tier you get that steal HP proc on mobs. But what kind of special effect does that Soul Fire - Soul Burst proc do exactly in terms of damage? If you cast the 2nd tier Soul Spell you don't get steal HP proc anymore right?
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post Oct 30 2010, 18:57
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QUOTE(shiki666 @ Oct 30 2010, 09:55) *

But what kind of special effect does that Soul Fire - Soul Burst proc do exactly in terms of damage?

It triples the damage done by Soul Burst.
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If the primary target is under the effect of Soul Fire, the base damage of the spell is multipled by a factor of max(1, 1 + 2 * (50 - interference)) - that is, 3 if your interference is 0, decreasing to 1 (no multiplier) passing 50. Furthermore, regardless of interference, all affected enemies gain/refresh the Soul Fire effect.


QUOTE(shiki666 @ Oct 30 2010, 09:55) *

If you cast the 2nd tier Soul Spell you don't get steal HP proc anymore right?

No.

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post Oct 30 2010, 19:06
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Oct 30 2010, 12:57) *

It triples the damage done by Soul Burst.
This:
No.


Wow does that mean if you cast Soul Burst first and proc most or all of the mobs with Soul Fire Proc, and then cast Soul Burst a second time would that give ALL the mobs with Soul Fire proc the 3x damage? Sounds like it would kill even a Legendary
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post Oct 30 2010, 19:11
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QUOTE(shiki666 @ Oct 30 2010, 13:06) *

Sounds like it would kill even a Legendary

It doesn't.
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post Oct 30 2010, 19:12
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Soul Fire is a single target spell, so you would have to individually cast it on enemies.
And, it is an absurdly expensive spell (for reference, it costs more than 7 times as much as maxed Thunderstorm)
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post Oct 30 2010, 19:14
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Oct 30 2010, 13:12) *

And, it is an absurdly expensive spell (for reference, it costs more than 7 times as much as maxed Thunderstorm)

Additionally, Soul Burst costs about double Soul Fire. So no, don't get any stupid ideas about Soul Fire/Burst being a super-awesome panacea spell.
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post Oct 30 2010, 19:16
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The 7x was Soul Burst. Soul Fire is 3x.
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post Oct 30 2010, 20:30
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Hi guys what do you think about tank build? So only heavy equipment and big lifes?
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post Oct 30 2010, 20:35
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QUOTE(folwaR... @ Oct 30 2010, 11:30) *

Hi guys what do you think about tank build? So only heavy equipment and big lifes?


It works fine at the lower levels and gets steadily less effective the higher you get.
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post Oct 30 2010, 21:06
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hm, hm I think so. But are here some other builds instead 'mage' and 'tank'?

I've checked some wiki sites with spells and equipments, and there are spells which can work with lower damages (curative, regen...)
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post Oct 30 2010, 21:25
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QUOTE(shiki666 @ Oct 30 2010, 12:06) *
Sounds like it would kill even a Legendary
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It doesn't.
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Additionally, Soul Burst costs about double Soul Fire. So no, don't get any stupid ideas about Soul Fire/Burst being a super-awesome panacea spell.

You sure around that, chief? Trophies and equipment were slashed because I was ripping through Legendaries like tissue paper.

It's actually even easier now with the slightly nerfed enemy defenses, but you get practically nothing out of it. No substantial credit drops, and almost never any non-final round trophies drops.
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post Oct 30 2010, 21:27
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Oh, it murders legendaries, but that's about all it is good for. You wouldn't use it in IW.
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post Oct 30 2010, 21:34
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Oct 30 2010, 15:25) *

You sure around that, chief? Trophies and equipment were slashed because I was ripping through Legendaries like tissue paper.

It's actually even easier now with the slightly nerfed enemy defenses, but you get practically nothing out of it. No substantial credit drops, and almost never any non-final round trophies drops.

The point was for people to not get stupid ideas about how awesome Soul Fire/Burst is. Especially since everything got nerfed.
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post Oct 30 2010, 21:37
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man, fire is awesome in any form ^^
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post Oct 30 2010, 22:05
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Can somebody please show me some really great rapiers?
I remember seeing one in particular but I don't know where to look for it. Everyone was saying it was probably the best. Somewhat ridiculous ADM, and near perfect proc.
Well any REALLY good ones will do. I need to see some to decide whether or not I bought a good one just now. (from the bazaar)
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post Oct 30 2010, 22:17
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Can somebody please show me some really great rapiers?
I remember seeing one in particular but I don't know where to look for it. Everyone was saying it was probably the best. Somewhat ridiculous ADM, and near perfect proc.
Well any REALLY good ones will do. I need to see some to decide whether or not I bought a good one just now. (from the bazaar)

Magnificent Steel Rapier of Awesome
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post Oct 30 2010, 22:20
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QUOTE(Death Grunty @ Oct 30 2010, 21:05) *

Can somebody please show me some really great rapiers?
I remember seeing one in particular but I don't know where to look for it. Everyone was saying it was probably the best. Somewhat ridiculous ADM, and near perfect proc.
Well any REALLY good ones will do. I need to see some to decide whether or not I bought a good one just now. (from the bazaar)
It wouldn't be easier to show yours?
Anyway there's mine, cmal has one with better ADM, unless you really want to see the pre-nerfed magnificent one.

Edit: ninga'd

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post Oct 30 2010, 22:26
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Oct 30 2010, 14:27) *

Oh, it murders legendaries, but that's about all it is good for. You wouldn't use it in IW.

Expect as a proverbial bitch slap to any bosses that show up.

QUOTE(cmal @ Oct 30 2010, 14:34) *

The point was for people to not get stupid ideas about how awesome Soul Fire/Burst is. Especially since everything got nerfed.

Well, actually it is awesome, it's just that it's tailor made for legendary killing. It's extreme overkill and wasteful on anything else.

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post Oct 30 2010, 22:29
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R-right. Magnificent Rapier of Drool.

This is the one I bought.
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Weapon Damage Type Piercing
Attack Damage Multiplier + 19.27 %
Attack Accuracy Bonus + 13.11 %
Attack Critical Bonus + 3.01 %
Parry Chance + 5.00 %
Burden + 8.56
Interference + 7.02
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Hit Proc: 25% chance for Penetrated Armor
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Seemed like a good idea when I saw it. Good ADM, Good proc.
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