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post Mar 24 2013, 16:50
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QUOTE(chaos9 @ Mar 24 2013, 17:24) *

well i can only speak of m but some monster deal around 1,5 times my life as damage (for example Celestia Lindwurm) and the manacosts form absorb are cheaper then the spirit i lose if Spirit Shield / Spark of Life proc


if they deal 1.5 times your life as damage you don't want to rely on something that procs only the 75% of the times. still not bad to have, but i usually don't even bother unless i get a channeling or gem when all my buffs are far from expiring.
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post Mar 24 2013, 17:12
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Mar 25 2013, 00:50) *

if they deal 1.5 times your life as damage you don't want to rely EXCLUSIVELY on something that procs only the 75% of the times. still not bad to have, but i usually don't even bother unless i get a channeling or gem when all my buffs are far from expiring.

Fixed that for you.

Absorb is bloody awesome during schoolgirl marathons, even if every so often, they don't trigger. That's what SS and Scrolls of Absorption are for, as backup.
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post Mar 24 2013, 17:52
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Mar 24 2013, 18:12) *

Fixed that for you.

Absorb is bloody awesome during schoolgirl marathons, even if every so often, they don't trigger. That's what SS and Scrolls of Absorption are for, as backup.


well i could not say since i'm 4 levels behind the first arena with schoolgirls save for the last round.

oh btw, as a holy mage i can clear all the 200 and below arenas at Hell difficulty level without having mana problems as i rarely use more than 10 potions of the 13 i can take with me.

which difficulty should i set for my first attempt? i fear that i will run out of mana really fast with that many cows to take down and i would not like to waste a day.
should i go heroic or nightmare?
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post Mar 24 2013, 18:21
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Mar 24 2013, 21:22) *

well i could not say since i'm 4 levels behind the first arena with schoolgirls save for the last round.

oh btw, as a holy mage i can clear all the 200 and below arenas at Hell difficulty level without having mana problems as i rarely use more than 10 potions of the 13 i can take with me.

which difficulty should i set for my first attempt? i fear that i will run out of mana really fast with that many cows to take down and i would not like to waste a day.
should i go heroic or nightmare?


If you never played the round before always set your difficultly to (normal) Do it for the sure first time arena bonus credit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) After that experiment with what mode you can handle.
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post Mar 24 2013, 18:42
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QUOTE(xcaliber9999 @ Mar 24 2013, 19:21) *

If you never played the round before always set your difficultly to (normal) Do it for the sure first time arena bonus credit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) After that experiment with what mode you can handle.

maybe i will this time.
i used to start the arenas at nightmare, but the 220+ arenas have so many bosses that i fear i will run out of manaalong the way.
maybe this is the time to think about going melee and serach for a decent ethereal estoc XD.
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post Mar 24 2013, 22:23
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@malenk

I can do it on normal with no pots if I micromanage it, 1-2 pot of i just spam. and I have City™ gear (see sig).

add the fact that you can bring 3 more pots than me... you should be able to do hard without trouble
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post Mar 25 2013, 02:12
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Mar 24 2013, 23:52) *

well i could not say since i'm 4 levels behind the first arena with schoolgirls save for the last round.

oh btw, as a holy mage i can clear all the 200 and below arenas at Hell difficulty level without having mana problems as i rarely use more than 10 potions of the 13 i can take with me.

which difficulty should i set for my first attempt? i fear that i will run out of mana really fast with that many cows to take down and i would not like to waste a day.
should i go heroic or nightmare?

go for heroic first (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
after that try to finish schoolgirls marathons at more higher difficulty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Mar 25 2013, 03:38
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there are questions about the shadow veil.

Description can evade 20% up
For example, my default evade the 1%,
evade 1% -> 21% or evade 1% -> 1.2%??
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post Mar 25 2013, 04:03
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QUOTE(difso @ Mar 24 2013, 21:38) *

there are questions about the shadow veil.

Description can evade 20% up
For example, my default evade the 1%,
evade 1% -> 21% or evade 1% -> 1.2%??


Neither of those. It's 1-((1-current_evade)*(1-20%))
In your example it would be 1-((1-1%)*(1-20%)) = 20.8%
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post Mar 25 2013, 11:26
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QUOTE(artsan @ Mar 25 2013, 11:03) *

Neither of those. It's 1-((1-current_evade)*(1-20%))
In your example it would be 1-((1-1%)*(1-20%)) = 20.8%



Thank you
Then Heavy wear, evade of 0.6%
Shadow veil Then I take should help.
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post Mar 25 2013, 15:25
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What's an average magical attack for a mage at my ~250 lvl ? I try to figure out what is wrong with my char. I feel weaker and weaker as I level up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif).

Regarding Legendary items drop rate : the only way to increase their drop is training LoTD (except Scavenger), right ?

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post Mar 25 2013, 18:21
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Mar 25 2013, 16:25) *

What's an average magical attack for a mage at my ~250 lvl ? I try to figure out what is wrong with my char. I feel weaker and weaker as I level up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif).

Regarding Legendary items drop rate : the only way to increase their drop is training LoTD (except Scavenger), right ?


well according to the wiki several factors play a role in determining the quality of an equipment drop.

among such factors there is the difficulty level.
the difficulty level also affects the tier, which LotD doesn't.
that's the reason i suggest you don't invest much credits on LotD training early on since the cost gets steep pretty soon and you would benefit more upgrading your equipment in order to grind at a higher difficulty level.

of course scavenger helps a lot since increasing the chances of a drop also increases the chances of a legendary drop.

and you forgot about quartermaster that increases the chances of an equipment drop and is also very important.

still, after the earliest levels in such trainings you will see the price going into the hundreds of thousands and even millions later on so get the levels you can afford and prioritize you equipment.

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post Mar 25 2013, 18:36
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Mar 23 2013, 16:52) *

yup, i said lazyice sent it to me, but i'm fixing this as well.
i will send it to him once i finish the arena i'm doing.


lazyice was doing the right thing and so are you. Good on both of you.
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post Mar 25 2013, 18:43
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So basically, playing at Heroic level gives me 0 chances to get a Legendary item (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) ?

Scavenger 35/50
Luck of the draw 13/25
Quartermaster 8/20
Archaeologist 8/10

I try to earn some decent money and so far my idea for this was maximize artifact drop as more or less it has a constant price around 15k.
Training Quartermaster "decreases" artifact drop according to Wiki. So basically Luck of the draw affects only drops from monsters ? Anyway, it's a vicious circle...money to have gear and you need gear to have moeny (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif).
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post Mar 25 2013, 19:33
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Mar 25 2013, 19:43) *

So basically, playing at Heroic level gives me 0 chances to get a Legendary item (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) ?

Scavenger 35/50
Luck of the draw 13/25
Quartermaster 8/20
Archaeologist 8/10

I try to earn some decent money and so far my idea for this was maximize artifact drop as more or less it has a constant price around 15k.
Training Quartermaster "decreases" artifact drop according to Wiki. So basically Luck of the draw affects only drops from monsters ? Anyway, it's a vicious circle...money to have gear and you need gear to have moeny (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif).


here my levels right now:
Scavenger 22/50
Luck of the draw 9/25
Quartermaster 7/20
Archaeologist 3/10


i don't know your equip, mine is pretty cheap right now and i'm collecting credits in order to improve it before investing into more expensive trainings.

true, quartermaster decreases your chances of getting an artifact drop, that is because the first roll after the system decided you get a drop is the equipment roll.
the basic chance is 4% and training quartermaster you can double it getting 8%.
if the equipment roll fails there is an artifact roll right after.
meaning you get an artifact roll only 92% of the times instead of 96% of the times.
sure the chance is lowered, but that means you got equipment pieces in exchange and i think it's a good tradeoff.

you spent several millions on your trainings and while they will help you on the long run, i think you prioritized wrongly.

like the millions spent on archaeologist...
sure, double chance of artifacts, at 15000 credits each it will take you 1000+ artifacts to have a return of investment.

get a better gear and play at higher difficulty levels.
that's the best way.
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post Mar 25 2013, 19:39
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Mar 25 2013, 09:43) *

No, it's possible even at Normal.

Just play on Battletoads at least, get Luck of the Draw to 15, and then let luck do the rest.
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Easier said than done. I have no perks boosting my DMG :/. I can survive like 20 rounds on BT at best. I guess I've figured out how LoTD works...unfortunately (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif).
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post Mar 25 2013, 20:32
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Mar 25 2013, 19:05) *

Easier said than done. I have no perks boosting my DMG :/. I can survive like 20 rounds on BT at best. I guess I've figured out how LoTD works...unfortunately (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif).

with all potion using and ET/Focusing?

it cant be!!!

sure everybody has dmg perk this days (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Country : P®oland (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) nvm

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post Mar 25 2013, 21:22
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In another thread it was said that lotd just raises the base threshold of drops. So instead of rolling between 1-1000, you roll 250-1000 (approximately). This means you can still get crappy equipment, and you can still get legendary stuff without lotd, it's just slightly more likely with it.
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post Mar 25 2013, 21:44
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Mar 25 2013, 21:05) *

Easier said than done. I have no perks boosting my DMG :/. I can survive like 20 rounds on BT at best. I guess I've figured out how LoTD works...unfortunately (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif).


lol, forget about the damage perks.
1000 hath for 5% more damage is not worth it unless you already have high end equipment and you don't know what else to do with your credits.

i'm still saving for my first level in innate arcana (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
(actually i could afford it but i decided to prioritize equipment right now)

also play the higher arenas with great level stamina.
buy stamina potions, at 12-13k each they give you 400 arena rounds at great stamina.
unless you play at the lower difficulty levels the extra credits you earn are more than enough to pay for the cost and you also get 50% extra exp and 25% extra damage that helps you a lot.

the only training you need to max out asap is pack rat.
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