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Mar 12 2013, 18:51
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Lement
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Soul Reaper/harvest are level 100 spells HNTI. They proc "burning soul" which gives once only 5% spirit when whacked. AoE tens to proc 1-3 times.
And mages do well by low difficulty(lots of artifact, credits, etc.) so unlike with melees gear by drops isn't really viable for them.
Oh and 1h is far too slow. Don't. DW for low arenas/schoolgirls, not sure what the limit for 2h<>DW is atm.
Also, at your stats STR will atm produce bigger effect than AGI or DEX for you.
BTW; don't use phazons until you have phase bit more valuable than them(try at least magnificent phase in all slots before start using phazons and even then forging staff will be more efficient for a while).
This post has been edited by Lement: Mar 12 2013, 18:55
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Mar 12 2013, 19:15
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HNTI
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I don't have any Phazons, so no worries (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif). My monsters are too low level to bring something worth forging (only 1 with 277 lvl and 2 * 130+). I might take care of them when I train all Scavenger, LoTD & Quartermaster trainings below 400k price. This post has been edited by HNTI: Mar 12 2013, 19:16
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Mar 12 2013, 19:34
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Lement
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I assure you, my PL25 army has brought me several phazons.
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Mar 12 2013, 19:43
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HNTI
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How many do you mean by an army ?. I have 7 of them : 30, 65, 163, 277, 135, 135, 25, 27. They bring some bindings, but usually I end up with low mats.
This post has been edited by HNTI: Mar 12 2013, 19:52
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Mar 12 2013, 19:58
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T_Starrk
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Mar 12 2013, 08:12)  What's better for high difficulty as melee DW + light armour or a "can" wearing heavy amour + 1h + shield ?
I think DW+shade works awesome. I can do every arena on IWBTH quite easily with minimal mana cost (this is with all magnificent gear and weapons and some forging too though). If you want to go the fastest route for melee (for the majority of arenas) then go with estoc/heavy (forget about one-hand). Get some good protection plates and a few pieces of power and combine it with a high damage/strength estoc and you're good to go. It's probably the cheapest build you can use to play at high levels. This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Mar 12 2013, 20:02
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Mar 12 2013, 22:34
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Nightwishman
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QUOTE(Lement @ Mar 12 2013, 19:34)  I assure you, my PL25 army has brought me several phazons.
Same.
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Mar 12 2013, 23:44
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Malenk
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should i shrine or keep the collectable figurines i find? is the orbital friendship cannon worth it?
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Mar 12 2013, 23:58
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PK678353
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Mar 12 2013, 12:58)  I think DW+shade works awesome. I can do every arena on IWBTH quite easily with minimal mana cost (this is with all magnificent gear and weapons and some forging too though). If you want to go the fastest route for melee (for the majority of arenas) then go with estoc/heavy (forget about one-hand). Get some good protection plates and a few pieces of power and combine it with a high damage/strength estoc and you're good to go. It's probably the cheapest build you can use to play at high levels.
DW+Shade works awesome, but you need good Shade to do it since it's so Avoidance dependent. Taming the RNG is going to require Sup+ Fleet at minimum and an Ethereal Club with good Stun. Fortunately Exquisite Fleet isn't exactly uncommon. It is only a low cost option comparative to high end Fenrir, absolutely not something you can do off just drops+Bazaar (which some people keep trying to do, despite it being possibly the biggest single way to gimp yourself). That said, HNTI, you'll do a lot better if you invest a few hundred thousand into the WTS forums, which you should be able to get your hands on at our level (might take a bit). You can find non-troll Fenrir (read: has INT+WIS) for not hideously large amounts of money, and it'll improve your effectiveness dramatically. Just getting INT/WIS on all your armor should kick your MDB up by a few hundred, which is a big damage buff. Just Say No to Troll Phase. QUOTE(Lement @ Mar 12 2013, 12:34)  I assure you, my PL25 army has brought me several phazons.
QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Mar 12 2013, 15:34)  Same.
0 Phazons off my mobs. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) This post has been edited by PK678353: Mar 12 2013, 23:59
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Mar 13 2013, 00:02
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TheGreyPanther
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Mar 12 2013, 22:44)  should i shrine or keep the collectable figurines i find? is the orbital friendship cannon worth it? I love the OFC so I would keep them. If it is useful to you depends if you are a melee fighter or a mage as the damage OFC does depends on physical attack damage. It is most useful when facing multiple monster on high difficulty. IWBTH hourlies and the final rounds of long arenas are where I use it. To find them all from drop is completely unrealistic so you would have to buy them to get a set of 21 different ponies. I don't know the current price for ponies. It was 80k when I bought mine and it dropped to 30k when the grinders started selling theirs but the introduction of salvaging have increased the price again. So you have to decide for yourself if it is worth it.
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Mar 13 2013, 00:02
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eramosat
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I don't know whether to forge my DW main hand club or my off-hand rapier for physical crit chance? The rapier has much better %, almost 3x as much but I don't know how main hand and off-hand are combined into overall crit chance?
Point me to the formula if it's out there please.
This post has been edited by eramosat: Mar 13 2013, 00:03
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Mar 13 2013, 00:06
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Malenk
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QUOTE(TheGreyPanther @ Mar 13 2013, 01:02)  I love the OFC so I would keep them. If it is useful to you depends if you are a melee fighter or a mage as the damage OFC does depends on physical attack damage. It is most useful when facing multiple monster on high difficulty. IWBTH hourlies and the final rounds of long arenas are where I use it. To find them all from drop is completely unrealistic so you would have to buy them to get a set of 21 different ponies. I don't know the current price for ponies. It was 80k when I bought mine and it dropped to 30k when the grinders started selling theirs but the introduction of salvaging have increased the price again. So you have to decide for yourself if it is worth it.
well i'm building as a caster right now. i salvaged the first one i found, but i think i will keep the one i found earlier today and maybe get the needed amount when i reach that kind of money. thanks
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Mar 13 2013, 00:48
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n125
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QUOTE(Lement @ Mar 12 2013, 06:36)  @n125: I think you're underestimating the sum needed for that. 50 mil doesn't even let you get important stats forged to top legendary katalox staff+full set of mag phase, let alone any damage perks. That said, it may be difficult but certainly not impossible with that range's worth of mage gear to do iwbth arenas as things currently stand.
30 million is the figure I've seen thrown around here for good mage gear and "a lot of forging", so I figured I'd play it safe and make it the lower bound of a range. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) Damage perks obviously not included. QUOTE(HNTI @ Mar 12 2013, 09:12)  Your second option has one flaw : I take too much DMG trying to get mana through ET. Spirit Shield doesn't make much difference when I have to face like 4-6 of monsters surviving my fist spell).
You have to pick your spots and use Deprecating spells. When you have a couple of stragglers standing after you cast your AoE spells, finish one off with Magic Missile or single-target spells, and use the other for an MP/SP battery. Weaken it; maybe Silence, too. Then start the Magic Missile -> CM -> ET cycle. Mechanoids and giants are the best for this nowadays, I think. For SP regeneration, you'll want to keep an eye out for mechanoids that you can isolate easily, maybe humanoids and sprites too (though I haven't tried them). Alternatively, if you see an enemy with CM that is near death, finish it off with your staff so that you can earn some MP back.
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Mar 13 2013, 02:12
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HNTI
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@T_Starrk & PK678353 & n125: Thanks for tips.
Is it worth to invest in Crystal perks in order to earn money on it ?
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Mar 13 2013, 02:39
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Nightwishman
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Is it worth it to even try to get good gear, when the cost of good gear just keeps going up for players like me?
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Mar 13 2013, 03:47
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T_Starrk
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Mar 12 2013, 13:58)  DW+Shade works awesome, but you need good Shade to do it since it's so Avoidance dependent. Taming the RNG is going to require Sup+ Fleet at minimum and an Ethereal Club with good Stun.
This is true. That's why I mentioned the "magnificent gear with some forgings" part (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . It still is a viable build though (in fact, it works better for me than heavy in IWBTH arena, and my heavy set is all mag/leg plate with one piece of exquisite power), but yes, the entry cost is much higher than a plate set-up. Really I don't think there's any build you can just pick right up and play on IWBTH easily, they all take time and investment if you want to play at that level. This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Mar 13 2013, 03:49
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Mar 13 2013, 04:15
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Arxdewn
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Mar 12 2013, 17:39)  Is it worth it to even try to get good gear, when the cost of good gear just keeps going up for players like me?
What else will you do with your credits then???
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Mar 13 2013, 04:16
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soliloquy
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I'm thinking about building a melee set. I had a few questions though. How slow is DW through non schoolgirl marathons? For instance, going through item world where there's just a mass of normal creatures. How do you decide between the 3 types of shade armor? From what I can tell, fleet is where you want to start at. Shadowdancer is for when your avoidance is good and you want some more damage. I don't see where arcanist fits, though. I see lvl 300+ players running a piece or two of arcanist. Finally, How many points in OC tanks do I need before I start meleeing? It seems like some of the skills need 200+ OC to activate. Currently, I have 0 due to being a mage.
This post has been edited by ramenface: Mar 13 2013, 05:09
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Mar 13 2013, 04:22
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elda88
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QUOTE(Arxdewn @ Mar 13 2013, 10:15)  What else will you do with your credits then???
Train, train & train.
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Mar 13 2013, 04:41
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Supermario223
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I've got a nice Astral Mace I use for everything. I'm 17 or so figurines short of my OFC. Just saying I'm back again and asking if I should worry about boosting my Dexterity any more. It's at 75 or so right now. My strength and agility are at 94 after factoring in equipment.
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Mar 13 2013, 05:21
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Colman
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Mar 13 2013, 08:12)  Is it worth to invest in Crystal perks in order to earn money on it ?
The price of Crystal perk is 250/750/1750 hath for 2/3/5 x crystal. Assume 1 hath can convert to 1k crystals, the cost of crystal perk is 250k/750k/1.75M crystal. Which means you need to earn 250k/375k/437.5k crystals without perk multiplier, or 500k/1.125M/2.1875M with multiplier to make it self paying.
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